Trump tells Dem congresswomen: Go back where you came from!

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I think your observations are nearly all correct Jay While I think he will still win plenty of the deep red counties there could be enough counties that are not deep red that he just squeaked by with in 16. Holding that there are more moderate conservatives that are put off by him now could make a difference. That may be wishful thinking on my part.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Why would you want the man responsible for the highest quality of life in 20 years and highest ever wage growth gone?

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Just an FYI.

Fake liberal news is the problem.

Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....

That is what Trump actually said.

This is the politico headline ...

Trump tells Dem congresswomen: Go back where you came from

This is why no one takes those fools seriously. All liberal media propaganda outlets do is lie.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Holding that there are more moderate conservatives that are put off by him now could make a difference.

It's more than offset by how aghast the independents and moderates from both parties are at the unanimous support from the left's candidates for things like open borders, full tax payer funded health coverage of illegals, and middle class tax increases.

I was openly confident in 2016, I'm moreso leading into 2020... the economy, jobs, trade, lack of actual military adventurism, and tax situation laid a difficult table for the Dems to climb over in 2020 and the party running people with zero likability and a laundry list of blatantly unpopular ideas truly makes it an impossible climb for them at this point. Trump may lose CA, HA, WA, MA, NY, Maryland, and DC, but don't be shocked if he wins Minn, CO, NM, NH, Maine, NV, and Virginia, which he lost in 2016.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I think your observations are nearly all correct Jay While I think he will still win plenty of the deep red counties there could be enough counties that are not deep red that he just squeaked by with in 16. Holding that there are more moderate conservatives that are put off by him now could make a difference. That may be wishful thinking on my part.

I think the more moderates were the ones most offended by the ongoing 'deplorable' rhetoric. Nobody saw their vote coming last time so I really doubt anyone will see them coming this time.

a reply to: MALBOSIA

My wife will be voting for the first time as a new citizen.

Non white immigrant. Voting Trump.

a reply to: Waterglass


The Presidents Own Words ........

“Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came,” he added. “Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!”



Silly Superior Cackling Hens .Get Ye to a Nunnery Women ! ...._0

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: MALBOSIA

My wife will be voting for the first time as a new citizen.

Non white immigrant. Voting Trump.

Congratulations to your wife. Seriously, that's s big deal.

I find that most people that dislike Trump only talk to others like themselves but if someone knows you and trusts you, it actually is not that hard for them to realize that Trump really is a good deal for voters.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I think your observations are nearly all correct Jay While I think he will still win plenty of the deep red counties there could be enough counties that are not deep red that he just squeaked by with in 16. Holding that there are more moderate conservatives that are put off by him now could make a difference. That may be wishful thinking on my part.

More people who have voted Democrat in the past are going with Trump lately. Have you heard of the #walkaway movement ?
Have you talked with conservatives who now don’t like Trump? I don’t know any who voted Trump but who would now consider any of the Democrat candidates. Why would any conservative go with the radical Democrat Party just because Trump is a bit on the outspoken gruff side ?
I think these young radicals should keep talking though because they are turning off real moderates and real conservatives.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

For one, he is not responsible. He is a wild catter taking what he can for the short term and to hell with the long term. Just like so much of the stock market. He has opened up a field of hope for others to make money and it is they who are stoking this brief surge in the economy. Where can we make our money now and be damned with the future. That is how I see this up turn in the American ecoonomy.I do not see it as sustainable. He is willing to trade on the momentary up tick in jobs at the expense of a long term plan to sustain our children and grandchildren.

I have no proof of this or at leas proof that would satisfy his support base but there you have it.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

No, msm is not the problem. The problem is people who cannot tell what is a lie and what is not without the blessing of their leaders. I never once watched CNN until I had been here on ATS for 8 years. So I started to watch it off and on to see if it was as bad as some here made it out to be. It was not. It has bias and it has an agenda. But I have the ability to distinguish the difference. This thing of putting all the blame on the liberal media is a lazy way to assemble what is true and what is not. That was is as old as all the authoritarian types of the past. Trust me and no one else kind of stuff.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

By your consideration, basically any stock growth meets those same criteria. I'm struggling to see what, exactly, he's done that's been short sighted or screwing over of the long term where the economy is concerned. He's played the long game while not utterly neglecting the short game from where I stand. I especially don't understand this:

He is willing to trade on the momentary up tick in jobs at the expense of a long term plan to sustain our children and grandchildren.

More jobs and fewer jobless would seem to be real growth and a good thing to any traditional definition of economic gains. Forget "proof," please just explain your logic in profaning what has always been held as righteous economically speaking.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

You may be right, just don't get lazy like the dems did in 16 because they thought they had a sure thing.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Give it up.

No one in DC cares about children or grandchildren.

They don't vote.

"You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here."
-Someone more famous than me

a reply to: MALBOSIA

Being a left leaning moderate myself, when I heard Clinton come out with that line I knew that her chances had slipped from probable to drastic over night. But you see just as the conservative vote was a surprise to most experts in 16 so to there may be votes that come out of the woodwork in 20. Myself, I really have no proof of either.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

No, msm is not the problem. The problem is people who cannot tell what is a lie and what is not without the blessing of their leaders. I never once watched CNN until I had been here on ATS for 8 years. So I started to watch it off and on to see if it was as bad as some here made it out to be. It was not. It has bias and it has an agenda. But I have the ability to distinguish the difference. This thing of putting all the blame on the liberal media is a lazy way to assemble what is true and what is not. That was is as old as all the authoritarian types of the past. Trust me and no one else kind of stuff.

For the record, and forgive me if you already knew this and it isn't just a nuance that has been missed by folks outside the USA, distrust of CNN and the "I do not believe the liberal media" tropes long, long, LONG predated Donald Trump's entry into politics. When I was a kid I remember seeing a lot of bumper stickers cajoling CNN... Clinton News Network... I REJECT THE LIES OF THE LIBERAL MEDIA... you couldn't enter a room without hearing one of 3 things loudly being discussed, either it was what a shyster Clinton was, how Waco was a government assassination plot, or how CNN was a globalist liberal tool network that pedaled false narratives and covered the left's ass. This was 25 years ago and it was all over rural America.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You may be right, just don't get lazy like the dems did in 16 because they thought they had a sure thing.

The difference between me and the Dems of 2016 is that I won't be satisfied with anything short of running all 3 branches and futureproofing the regime. I don't want a simple majority, I don't want a supermajority, I actively want a one party state BUT with the caveat being I don't want RINOs in that one-party state. So no, not a chance of complacency from this man.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

I think that the young radicals in the Dem party are smoke and mirrors. Lots of rhetoric but when it comes down to the real body of democrats I think that they are much more moderate than that. After all this is a capitalist country and most liberals get their money and livelihood from capitalist enterprises. Most of the donations that flow into their coffers are from capitalist concerns.

No, I think that when it comes down to it, the Dems will elect a much more moderate candidate than current news trends suggest, one that can appeal to many liberal types along side many who voted for Trump. That is I hope.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I see this BUrd. But there was a time when I was very radical left. ANd you know what? I saw the msm exactly as you see it as a propaganda tool of the establishment. I still do. BUt what I don't see is them being ''liberal media''. I see them as being propaganda media. This notion that is so prevalent now that it is ''liberal'' I think is part of the propaganda being pushed by one side of the corporate stucture. What I see is corporate wars going on, not capitalist and socialist. Its corporate media vrs corporate media. And more than that all the little media outlets? I see them being wannabe corporate outlets.

Look at HuffPo. I never read it but it was owned by a woman who presented herself as conservative for a while than prestneted herself as liberal. She did what she did to make money. For a while she catered to the liberal clientele just enough to establish her HuffPo brand and then sold it. Sold it to another corporation who makes money off of it. Capitalist, not socialist. Its corporate wars we are watching going on...