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originally posted by: Analbumcover
I appreciate the work you do. Another thing for me to think about.
I'm not as arrogant as the rest. I always find it funny those that say their way is the right way do it with so much force.
Because a man that makes money reads a book to them. Never open, minds always so shut.
They champion the book and their jesus yet they never follow what he says. Never show the love he tried to teach. Not even to others that believe in the same jesus just a different interpretation. You show more kindness and patience than any of the "true" believers here.
Thanks again, I've read the majority of what you've posted on this site and it makes me think.
Valentinus was also a Christian educated in Alexandria who taught from 100-175 A.D. According to Tertullian of Carthage, another early Christian theologian, Valentinus was at one time was a candidate for Bishop for the Christian Church but was not selected. Valentinus was responsible for one of the major Gnostic movements, having a widespread following throughout the Roman Empire and provoking many writings by fellow Christian opponents in response to his teachings. Similar to those previously discussed, Valentinus believed all souls lived in a perfect state with God, fell, were imprisoned in bodies, and will be imprisoned until enough knowledge and experience is gained for spiritual resurrection and return to God’s presence.
Regarding the mission of Christ, he believed that Christ did not come among men to provide any kind of salvation but to provide an example for how to live and motivation for all that can be done. Christ was crucified to simply end his ministry and for no higher purpose. From this we can see why Valentinus’s belief in reincarnation does not limit Christ’s redemptive powers like it did to other Christians. That is not to say that Valentinus and his followers did not believe that Christ’s mission was sacred, but that it provided a sacred example and not a sacrifice.
Google Source "The Argument over Reincarnation in Early Christianity" by Elizabeth Jenson
20 My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one,Father, just as you are in me and I am in you.May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
The word 'Thither' means location, not the state of being.
Job assumed he was going to hell, thus he said he is going back to the Womb.
2 Corinthians 12:2
"I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth) such an one caught up to the third heaven"
In the Body = Microcosm
Out of the Body = Macrocosm
The Church took Earth's Atmosphere and Outer Space and split them into two Heavens. As a result, Christians have no idea that they are supposed to be looking for the Kingdom of God Within...
Wrong - Life after earth... Same life but after this period of our life. Abraham was going to rest with his fathers. Remember the OT? Talmud? Zohar? i.e. all souls return to physical bodies in this world.
The bible and every other holy book is an allegory for the human experience.