Rockets do not work in the vacuum of space. You will believe anything "expert" scientists say.

a reply to: neutronflux

Unfortunately we all just participated in a YouTube scam. It's how these losers make money, they troll web forums and YouTube creating internet hits for their sensationalistic psuedo-science, and the way Google works, we just created more organic interaction for this piece of garbage. We elevated his bunkass video. Most of them don't even believe the bull# they spout, they just create million-click videos to get YouTube checks in the mail and prey on intellectual people who care about scientific integrity.

a reply to: neutronflux

Unfortunately we all just participated in a YouTube scam. It's how these losers make money, they troll web forums and YouTube creating internet hits for their sensationalistic psuedo-science, and the way Google works, we just created more organic interaction for this piece of garbage. We elevated his bunkass video. Most of them don't even believe the bull# they spout, they just create million-click videos to get YouTube checks in the mail and prey on intellectual people who care about scientific integrity.

a reply to: 8675309jenny

Still no proof of rockets in space. So who’s trolling again?

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

You keep saying there is an opposite force from gas movement due to pressure gradient force, but yet fail to prove it. Clearly the initial post shows that there is none.

originally posted by: NicSign
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

You keep saying there is an opposite force from gas movement due to pressure gradient force, but yet fail to prove it. Clearly the initial post shows that there is none.

No. Others have clearly stated their premise with supporting dialogue.

You just keep saying” pressure gradient force” without proving any proof how any individuals or cited sources explaining how rockets work are wrong.

a reply to: NicSign

Here are two sources cited explaining how rockets work and mathematical defining thrust.

How do rockets work in the vacuum of space?
A STAFF REPORT FROM THE STRAIGHT DOPE SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD
www.straightdope.com...
www.straightdope.com...

From NASA General Thrust Equation

Thrust is the force which moves a rocket through the air, or through space. Thrust is generated by the propulsion system of the rocket.
www.grc.nasa.gov...
www.grc.nasa.gov...

Would you like to quote where the two cited sources are false. I couldn’t find the word “gradient” on either source. Did find lots on Newton’s Third Law and Second law of motion, thrust, and seeing the laws solved in terms other than “pressure gradient force”

Again. I want YOU to define “pressure gradient force”, how you are applying it to rockets, and explain why my cited sources on rockets are in terms of Newton’s laws of motion not “pressure gradient force”.

originally posted by: NicSign
a reply to: fleabit
How man people would have to be "in on it"? or it could be just people believe the news

10s of thousands or more people would have to be "in on it." It's laughable to even consider it could be kept a secret. There are also probably 10s of thousands of hours of (publicly available) video of rockets and humans in space. I guess they photoshopped all of it eh?

You can't even explain away satellites other than some lame "satellite balloon" theory. You have literally no science backing up your ridiculous claims, and there is a hilariously massive amount of evidence proving the contrary. But hey, if you want to live in a delusional world, that's cool! Unless you are mega-trolling, which you may well be. Either way, good luck in your foolish endeavors. : )

originally posted by: NicSign
a reply to: 8675309jenny

Still no proof of rockets in space. So who’s trolling again?

That would be you.

originally posted by: fleabit

originally posted by: NicSign
a reply to: fleabit
How man people would have to be "in on it"? or it could be just people believe the news

10s of thousands or more people would have to be "in on it." It's laughable to even consider it could be kept a secret. There are also probably 10s of thousands of hours of (publicly available) video of rockets and humans in space. I guess they photoshopped all of it eh?

You can't even explain away satellites other than some lame "satellite balloon" theory. You have literally no science backing up your ridiculous claims, and there is a hilariously massive amount of evidence proving the contrary. But hey, if you want to live in a delusional world, that's cool! Unless you are mega-trolling, which you may well be. Either way, good luck in your foolish endeavors. : )

It was bad enough when Moon Hoax believers tried to tell us that that could have been kept a secret but every space mission by every country and all those space stations including the ISS and satellites (around 5,000 currently up there) is fake and kept secret? How many firms and people are involved in building all this stuff and components etc not to mention all the people working in telecoms which relies on satellites to work etc?

a reply to: oldcarpy

Yes. Simple as that. People lie everyday.

originally posted by: NicSign
a reply to: oldcarpy

Yes. Simple as that. People lie everyday.

Yes, like the lie rockets don’t work in the vacuum of space. Such as anyone arguing rockets don’t work in the vacuum of space are trolling.

originally posted by: NicSign
a reply to: oldcarpy

Yes. Simple as that. People lie everyday.

Considering that the altitude of a satellite can be determined/confirmed by any two people who are a distance apart by using parallax, it seems to me the people lying (or spreading misinformation) are the people saying there are no satellites in space.

NicSign -- you and a friend can do this yourself. Maybe you could ask Turbonium to be your parallax partner.

a reply to: neutronflux

I have sighted sources en.m.wikipedia.org...

I’ve also made experiments to show that there is no equal and opposite force from gas movement due to pressure gradient force.

a reply to: Box of Rain

No you can’t. You are lying

a reply to: NicSign

These two sources have been cited for you repeatedly.

How do rockets work in the vacuum of space?
A STAFF REPORT FROM THE STRAIGHT DOPE SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD

www.straightdope.com...

The truth is that the rocket does have something to push against: namely, its own fuel. Let’s illustrate with an example you kids can try at home. First, you need to get yourself into some sort of frictionless situation. Wearing ice skates on a slippery ice rink would be good, or maybe your office has a chair that rolls really well on a hard surface. Next, you’ll need a medicine ball. You are the rocket and the medicine ball is your fuel. Toss the medicine ball. You’ll notice that as you shove the medicine ball forwards, you yourself lurch backwards. Ta-da, the miracle of physics! (If you think this is because the medicine ball pushed on the air, then try the experiment without the medicine ball — just push on the air with your hands, see how far you lurch backwards.)

From NASA General Thrust Equatio

www.grc.nasa.gov...
Thrust is the force which moves a rocket through the air, or through space. Thrust is generated by the propulsion system of the rocket.

How is thrust generated?

Thrust is a mechanical force which is generated through the reaction of accelerating a mass of gas, as explained by Newton's third law of motion. A gas or working fluid is accelerated to the rear and the engine and rocket are accelerated in the opposite direction. To accelerate the gas, we need some kind of propulsion system. We will discuss the details of various propulsion systems on some other pages. For right now, let us just think of the propulsion system as some machine which accelerates a gas.

Please feel free to prove anything you think is a lie from the two quoted sources

a reply to: neutronflux

a reply to: NicSign

How is it different if you substitute a high pressure fire hose or fire extinguisher for the medicine ball.

How do you think a rifle works? Are you saying a bullet with enough oxidizer to support the burning of the powder in a vacuum would not send a bullet flying?

Ann rides a fire extinguisher powered cart VID00046
m.youtube.com...

High powered co2 bottles attached to office chair
m.youtube.com...

WATER JET PACK
m.youtube.com...

High school physics 1, NicSign big fat zero.

a reply to: NicSign

What is it like to still have zero credibility and zero understanding of Newton’s laws. By the way, please quote where Newton’s laws are pressure gradient dependent.

a reply to: NicSign

Think about this way. A shotgun shooting a blank cartridge will still kick. Is that a false statement. How is a shotgun that kicks any different than a very short duration rocket?

a reply to: neutronflux

no solids are not fluids. How do you know the exhaust of the fire extinguisher is not pushing off the atmosphere?