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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: djz3ro
We do not have a Government. We do not have a PM capable of providing the country with leadership. We have a desperate PM clinging to power, trying to keep her shattered party together, despite the fact that it is fundamentally divided about what on earth to do about the Brexit vote, something that occurred more than two and a half years ago now. We are now an international laughing stock.
We do not have a PM capable of providing the country with leadership.
We have a desperate PM clinging to power,.....
..... trying to keep her shattered party together, despite the fact that it is fundamentally divided about what on earth to do about the Brexit vote,.....
We are now an international laughing stock.
originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: oldcarpy
Was never a fan of Thatcher and time hasn't improved my opinion of her.
But things she would not have done was dither and do nothing for a year and she would have had clearly defined goals and objectives.
In addition she wouldn't have allowed the EU to negotiate from such a strong position and with such a contemptuous attitude.
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: oldcarpy
Im sure if she was in power she would have prevented us from joining the EU all together !
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: ScepticScot
In 75 it was a Common Market, not the bloated EU of today.
Then came Westland - Michael Heseltine's battle to keep the helicopter company in European hands with a takeover by a European consortium.
Mrs Thatcher was insistent that the US firm Sikorsky should have it instead.She won, he quit
In 1988 there came the controversial "Bruges speech".
'No. No. No.'
"We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain, only to see them re-imposed with a European super-state exercising a new dominance from Brussels," Mrs Thatcher declared.
All of this came against a backdrop of a government split over whether to join the ERM, which Mrs Thatcher eventually agreed to do
The then president of the European Commission, Jacques Delors, had called for the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the community, the commission to be the executive and the Council of Ministers to be the senate.
"No. No. No," Thatcher famously told the Commons on 30 October 1990.
Michael Heseltine challenged Mrs Thatcher's leadership. Within a few weeks, she was heading out of Downing Street.
But despite all her battles over Europe, Mrs Thatcher did also sign the Single European Act, which created the single European market - one of the biggest acts of European integration.By 2002, however, she had changed her mind, believing signing up to the single market had been a terrible error
In 1995 she criticised Mr Major's government for signing the treaty and returned to the fray the following year, saying the UK might have to pull out of the EU.
Later that year she made her feelings known about former chancellor Ken Clarke's bid for the Conservative leadership, saying he would lead the party to "disaster"."He seems to view with blithe unconcern the erosion of Britain's sovereignty in Europe," she said, adding that his leadership would put Europe "at the forefront of politics".
In her 2002 book, Statecraft, she suggested the European single currency was an attempt to create a "European super state" and would fail "economically, politically and socially".
She called for a "fundamental re-negotiation" of Britain's links with the EU, stopping short of calling for withdrawal but nevertheless suggesting that the UK should pull out of common agricultural, fisheries, foreign and defence policies.
"Most of the problems the world has faced have come from mainland Europe, "And the solution is from outside it.