Hitler and the Nazis were not Right-wing.

Wow...this is crazy talk.
NEXT somebody is going to tell us the Democrats started the KKK.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Again show how ANY of the policies implemented by Hitler and the Nazis were "right-wing"?

I assume you're joking.

Stalin wasn't "right-wing" either, even thou left-wingers like yourself want to claim the contrary.

Again, incredible comedy skills good sir.

You're at the peak of your game.

You avoided answering the questions. Wonder why?

Because no one thinks Stalin is right wing.

Because there is more nuance to 40's political leans aside from titles than what translates to modern terms.

Because polarities shift just like the left in today's terms tend to get more of a hard on for war (IMO).

But mainly because this was a fishing expedition from OP, and the intended catch of the day isn't knowledge or the truth.

And everything you said was nothing more than excuse to not answer the question....

Fine, I'll play.

Hitler was an extremist, but more importantly an opportunist. He was probably more of a flagrant independent that hated both sides of the spectrum and only truly identified with nationalistic.

As for OP saying I implied Stalin leaned right, I simply have to laugh. I would never say things of that sort, nor did I. In fact I framed it as an attempt to show I realize the extremes of different spectrums.

All that said, Hitler certainly had right leaning ideology.

First off, I am not playing. If you think I am doing this for kicks I am not, I am concerned for my country. This isn't a GAME to me.

How was Hitler right leaning? Describe to me what is right leaning! I don't think you can unless you rely upon what you have been brain washed to believe. I already admitted he was a Nationalist, but why can't you admit he was also a socialist????

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Wow...this is crazy talk.
NEXT somebody is going to tell us the Democrats started the KKK.

Well that's nuts ain't it 😎

The worldwide central banking system is part of the Marx 10-Planks.

😈

a reply to: seeker1963

I'm worried about the country too.

Seriously though, Hitler doesn't have the monopoly on evil leaders.

He leaned a little right IMO, specifically in his nationalist teachings.

I've said in all reality he spoke against the left and right. He was an opportunist that took from ideologies from both sides of the spectrum.

Lenin, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, and countless left leaning leaders have shown us the dangers of extremism can deal us.

I just don't get the cherry picking or attempts to absolve the left or the right from any blemishes.

If anything, the "extreme right wing" should be either theocracy, or anarcy.

Facism, socialism, nazism, communism, all that belongs to the leftists.

originally posted by: caterpillage
If anything, the "extreme right wing" should be either theocracy, or anarcy.

Facism, socialism, nazism, communism, all that belongs to the leftists.

Is theocracy really that different than fascism?

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: caterpillage
If anything, the "extreme right wing" should be either theocracy, or anarcy.

Facism, socialism, nazism, communism, all that belongs to the leftists.

Is theocracy really that different than fascism?

Islamic nations are theocracies, and they're definitely fascist.

Id think so, a true theocracy would have a very different governmental structure set up.
Less focused on nationalism, and more structured on religious stuff?

Ironically enough though as automation becomes more situated in infrastructure, socialism/communism is almost inevitable.

How they will be structured the tricky part, like the military or worker class having more benefits or privileges then ordinary citizens like those dystopian future civilization plotlines that sell in movies.

The main concern of communism is that mainly details in civil issues rather then economic ones.

If Trump was running against Hitler, Who do you think progressives would support?

Nuff said

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: caterpillage
If anything, the "extreme right wing" should be either theocracy, or anarcy.

Facism, socialism, nazism, communism, all that belongs to the leftists.

Is theocracy really that different than fascism?

Islamic nations are theocracies, and they're definitely fascist.

Precisely.

Anytime you're persuaded to feel guilt or pass judgment for individualism I think it's time we grow worried.

a reply to: Specimen

Communism is in my opinion the most perfect system to have. And hopefully we will get there someday.

The downside to it is humanity and its peculiar quirks.
Communism lends itself more susceptible to corruption than any other ideology due to the absolute power it gives over so many by so few.
We are no where near ready for communism.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
If Trump was running against Hitler, Who do you think progressives would support?

Nuff said

Trump DID run against Hitler...and he beat her.

originally posted by: caterpillage
Id think so, a true theocracy would have a very different governmental structure set up.
Less focused on nationalism, and more structured on religious stuff?

Religion is a broad term.

Ever talked to an extremist vegan, follower of yoga, someone who takes psychedelics too far?

Ideology can be religion, just because someone isn't monotheistic with a named God doesn't mean they're not religious.

Hell, I've known atheists more evangelical than anyone from the Abrahamic religions.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: visitedbythem
If Trump was running against Hitler, Who do you think progressives would support?

Nuff said

Trump DID run against Hitler...and he beat her.

Hey thanks for making beer come out my nose!

Nah, he ran against Satan

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Ok, by religous i was refering to the theocracy type religious, but yeah i get what your saying. Religion can spark from anything. Hell, the global warming/climate change cult is a perfect example.
Everything we have or hold dear as people could be called a religion if you think broad enough.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Antifa are the modern-day Brownshirts.


2 cents.

Goddam... you move here yet still get indoctrinated by ATS? You need to visit my neck of the woods, lol.

Yeah, Hitler was a left winger. No doubt about that. He was even worse than Pelosi.

There's no need to fear leftists because we know that people will always revolt eventually under leftist policies. We can see this happening in Europe right now with the yellow vest protests over leftist immigration policies and high fuel taxes. The same thing will happen in the U.S. eventually if Democrats try to implement the Green New Deal, higher taxes & continue to support open borders. The U.S. culture is based on the idea of Liberty, which is the condition of being free from restriction or control, Liberty is the antithesis of fascism. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Chavez, Pol Pot & Castro were all fascists. Anyone who forces someone to do something either with physical force or monetary punishment is a fascist. The left are fascists. They are not liberals because they are against Liberty. That being said I think we need to reinstate our constitutional republic, which we lost in 1913, when the Federal Reserve Bank was established. A Fed member named Prescott Bush helped fund the Nazi's/Hitler's rise to power. In 1933 FDR suspended our constitution through emergency war powers, known as the National Defense Authorizarion Act (NDAA) today. We've been in continuous war since then. If the wars ever end our constitution will be reinstated & all the unconstitutional alphabet agencies which presume an individual's guilt, without a crime will be shutdown & due-process will be reinstated. We haven't had free market capitalism in the U.S. since before the FRB was established. Things have gotten much worse since then. The Gold Standard was killed by Nixon, with a promise that we'd return to it. Thanks to government propaganda during the 60s, it now takes 2 people's income to raise a family instead of 1. Presidents Eisenhower & JFK warned us about this. If JFK were alive today he'd be considered far right. That's how far the political spectrum has shifted left. Both Democrats & Republican career politicians are leftists. This is why they hate Trump who is a centrist. If Trump were president during JFKs time, Trump would have been considered far left & none of his sexual escapades would be known to the public during that time.