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The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.
What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.
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Fascism and Nazism are both phenomena of the left. This makes ideological sense, because at their core they represent ideologies of the centralized, all-powerful state. Moreover, fascism grew out of Marxism, and fascism’s founder Benito Mussolini, was a Marxist and lifelong socialist. Hitler, too, was a socialist who headed the National Socialist Party and in fact changed the name of the German Workers Party to make it the National Socialist German Workers Party.
How, then, did progressives in America re-define fascism and Nazism as phenomena of the right? This sleight-of-hand occurred after World War II, once fascism and Nazism were discredited with the reputation of Holocaust. Then progressives recognized it was important to cover up the leftist roots of fascism and Nazism and to move them from the left-wing column into the right-wing column.
The man most responsible for the progressive redefinition of fascism is Theodor Adorno, a German Marxist intellectual and a member of the influential Institute for Social Research, otherwise known as the Frankfurt School. The Frankfurt School scholars were leftists and most of them were refugees from Nazi Germany. Some settled in Europe; others like Adorno and Herbert Marcuse came to the United States.
originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
An excellent OP... I've fought this battle before with liberal family members.
It makes them so mad it's like I took their slaves from them again...
S&F!
originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Actually the were Nationalists and socialists, as the name indicates. Is this your first time discovering this?
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Hitler was a fascist, and did not get along with socialists or communists.
He leaned right wing, though it doesn't really matter. He was an extremist, much like Stalin.
Just because they occupy one end of the spectrum doesn't mean everyone has to own the wackos that bastardized the ideology.
originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Actually the were Nationalists and socialists, as the name indicates. Is this your first time discovering this?
originally posted by: xuenchen
A good read here..... 😎🚬
BIG LIAR How Theodor Adorno redefined Fascism
Fascism and Nazism are both phenomena of the left. This makes ideological sense, because at their core they represent ideologies of the centralized, all-powerful state. Moreover, fascism grew out of Marxism, and fascism’s founder Benito Mussolini, was a Marxist and lifelong socialist. Hitler, too, was a socialist who headed the National Socialist Party and in fact changed the name of the German Workers Party to make it the National Socialist German Workers Party.
How, then, did progressives in America re-define fascism and Nazism as phenomena of the right? This sleight-of-hand occurred after World War II, once fascism and Nazism were discredited with the reputation of Holocaust. Then progressives recognized it was important to cover up the leftist roots of fascism and Nazism and to move them from the left-wing column into the right-wing column.
The man most responsible for the progressive redefinition of fascism is Theodor Adorno, a German Marxist intellectual and a member of the influential Institute for Social Research, otherwise known as the Frankfurt School. The Frankfurt School scholars were leftists and most of them were refugees from Nazi Germany. Some settled in Europe; others like Adorno and Herbert Marcuse came to the United States.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Antifa are the modern-day Brownshirts.
2 cents.
An excellent OP... I've fought this battle before with liberal family members.
Again show how ANY of the policies implemented by Hitler and the Nazis were "right-wing"?
Stalin wasn't "right-wing" either, even thou left-wingers like yourself want to claim the contrary.
originally posted by: EternalSolace
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Antifa are the modern-day Brownshirts.
2 cents.
Can you really not back me up?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: EternalSolace
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Antifa are the modern-day Brownshirts.
2 cents.
Can you really not back me up?
*shrugs*
The sun rises in the East.
Water is wet.
Antifa is the violent arm of the left.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
I assume you're joking.
Again, incredible comedy skills good sir.
You're at the peak of your game.
“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
First, a disclaimer. I am not advocating in any way Nazism, imho it is an evil ideology that incites violence and murder.