FBI Arrests Man in Connection to Pipe Bombs

But how did they have this guys DNA to compare to?

a reply to: neo96

They had his prints. He had a record.

a reply to: Phage

Yeah prints.

Not DNA unless they take it now.

a reply to: neo96

I think someone got their wires crossed on that report... fingerprints from the tape sounds a lot more plausible than DNA. Having a criminal record, Florida had his fingerprints on file.

I can't see his DNA being on file, nor can I see them getting DNA samples from a bomb. Nor can I see them needing to.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: neo96
But how did they have this guys DNA to compare to?

With his rap sheet they probably have taken DNA at some point.

I have not seen the exact details.

a reply to: TheRedneck

I can't see his DNA being on file, nor can I see them getting DNA samples from a bomb. Nor can I see them needing to.

That's what I'm saying.

Even if the dumb snip licked the stamps. That'd leave it.

But the comparison sample is what I'm missing.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Guyfriday

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Guyfriday

CNN had a bomb that looks just like the others, but came from a different delivery source.

Actually, not.
CNN has an offsite mail depot. The USPS delivers there and a courier fetches the mail to the office. This was a clarification which was issued.

Except that the CNN bomb parcel didn't have any post marks. We (being the other thread that you took part in) covered this when we were having the discussion about Parcels delivered through other than USPS services having the same legal protections.

Source please, I think you are right but thinking and knowing are two different things?

From Reference.com

A postmark is not necessary for mail that is metered, has a permit or includes pre-canceled postage stamps. All other letters or flats, except for those that have an indicia that has been applied by a postage evidencing system, must be postmarked. The postmark cancels out the postage applied by the customer.
Postmarks may be applied manually or by an automated system. Requests can be made for hand postmarked pieces, and each local postmark is different. Automated systems can process large quantities of letters in a short time period and add an extra layer of security. As letters pass through the postmarking machine, they are scanned for bio-hazardous materials. An older process uses a mechanized system to apply postmarks.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Guyfriday

Has anyone heard if the Postal Authorities are investigating this event also, or has the shebang been handed off the FBI and BATF?

During the DoJ presser today at 2:30, they had someone form the Postal Inspector's Office there. They're involved, along with the DoJ, FBI, NYPD, and a few others.



TheRed

Ok thanks, I'm still playing a little catch up.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Guyfriday

Antideluvian posted way back in the thread that the USPS does not always postmark if a package is too soft to be handled by their machinery.

TheRedneck

No they have rubber stamps for everything. I have to mail things a lot that are unusual in shape. They stop at our office with a big buggy and I am looking for or sending scientific items off that have some unusual shapes and we are lay-Z and grab whatever and act all don't have time or an assistant mad about it, sorry to say.

For my bad luck:
I often get to meet the Postal Clerk who stamps my crazy last minute rush jobs and he is like a bit like Mr Rodgers of PBS lore. He has shown me what I have to do with Librarian accuracy and sternness. That has taught me not to be so 'assumptive' of their desire to do it 'my way", naturally.

a reply to: Guyfriday

NP, I think everyone is to a point.

TheRedneck

a reply to: roadgravel

Perhaps, but not likely.

In any case, AI makes fingerprint matching lot quicker than DNA matching.

a reply to: Justoneman

Hey, he had links... that's all I know.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Justoneman

None of them show a complete circuit though.

1 shows wires leading nowhere.
1 shows wires leading to a 3v cell battery and the useless side of the LED display.
1 shows wires leading to the useless side of the LED display and the other side of the wire turning back in on itself going nowhere.

Those segmented LED display modules are just made of a bunch of resistors and LED diodes. You can't just hook any old wire to it and expect something significant from it that could ignite a substance...

a reply to: More1ThanAny1

You are assuming the images are unaltered.
Among other things.

a reply to: neo96

They apparently had him on surveillance for the last day so could have collected discarded or touch dna from him to compare to the bombs for added proof. I can't see them having him in a DNA database that alerted to his name.

a reply to: Phage

DNA is now and for years has been taken from people when arrested.

AFIS for finger prints.

a reply to: Phage

Now that is a crazy conspiracy theory.

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: neo96

They apparently had him on surveillance for the last day so could have collected discarded or touch dna from him to compare to the bombs for added proof. I can't see them having him in a DNA database that alerted to his name.

Grossly enough, if the guy is living out of his van, then they could have just walked to the trash can where he dumps his poop. A cop friend of mine had to do that once for a DNA sample. He was not happy.

a reply to: Identified

I was just reading about it.

Turns out.

They prolly collected it back for previous arrests.

www.wklaw.com...

chicagocriminaldefenselawyer.com...

a reply to: roadgravel

DNA is now and for years has been taken from people when arrested.

Shows how much I know about being arrested.

a reply to: theantediluvian
Could it be just a plot to take over all the Indian Casinos and finish off the remaining native American tribes and open up some new golf courses and resorts?

This story piece is a bit of a paradox

Cesar Sayoc’s Home Was Foreclosed on by Steve Mnuchin’s Bank, Using Dodgy Paperwork David Dayen October 26 2018, 4:07 p.m. Cesar Sayoc, the Donald Trump-loving Floridian who was taken into custody in relation to pipe bombs mailed to prominent Democrats, was foreclosed on in 2009 by a bank whose principal owner and chair is now Trump’s treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin. The documents used to enact the foreclosure were signed by a prominent robo-signer and seemingly backdated. Nonetheless, the evidence was good enough for the famously inattentive Florida foreclosure courts to wave the case through. Years later, Sayoc became a supporter of Trump, who came into office and appointed a treasury secretary who ran the bank that snatched Sayoc’s house.