Trump signs executive order to stop family separations at border

a reply to: Vector99


Trump pro immigration?

Pffft sure dude.
What ever you say.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Vector99


Trump pro immigration?

Pffft sure dude.
What ever you say.

Pro-LEGAL-Immigration.

There actually is a difference.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: mkultra11

This narrative only works when seeking asylum is turned into a crime by the pig.
He talked about the country being overrun with millions and then he had to deal with the whole country shouting shame on you.
He was forced to because he saw his base slipping away.
Trying to save face by lying about the issue.

Asylum requires proof.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Vector99


Trump pro immigration?

Pffft sure dude.
What ever you say.

Pretty sure in the not-too-distant past, POTUS 45 offerred 1.8 million DACA kids amnesty. Your liberal leaders shut it down because they didn’t want a secure border. Seems POTUS 45 may be more pro-immigration than the Dems in the House and Senate.

originally posted by: Lab4Us
The biggest fallacy in your argument is that open borders means no one ever has to apply for residency status. Then your non-resident immigrants drain millions of dollars from programs meant for citizens...such as healthcare (since most use the ER as a family clinic), public schools, etc. What would be the point of anyone being a US citizen...or is that your hidden agenda? Open borders = end of the United States of America.

Open borders means we let anyone come over who wants. Then we can make them apply for residency status in order to do anything like have a bank account or work. We can leverage that access to systems in order to keep the criminals from having safe haven, while allowing for anyone who wants to work and contribute to come over without issue.

Health care should not be an issue, universal health care solves that problem. Alongside health care, schools and everything else wind up funded through increasing the tax base.

As far as the point of being a US citizen goes, what's the point of being any nations citizen? But to answer your question, voting, social security, and a few other things can be kept exclusive to citizens so long as any resident has an eventual path to citizenship.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: SteamyJeans

Can't be. I was watching CNN at work and they were running stories about how he won't. In big letters across the screen it said something to the effect of Source: Trump will not do an Executive Order

As of a few hours ago that was the case, then Trump changed his mind. It's not fake news when the white house lies, and then those lies get reported.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Then you might want to address the issue where not agreeing with the ideology you endorse does not make us all Nazi's.

Extreme nationalist rhetoric.
Concentration camps for minorities.
White supremacy policies.
Bannon, Gorka, Miller, etc in positions of influence.
Ripping families apart.
Support for dictators around the world.
Retreat from supporting human rights.
Defending these policies with "just following orders"

We are in Nazi territory. Not all Republicans, but the Trump wing are actual nazi's going by policies they support.

originally posted by: Vector99
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that by the chance you were stopped by a police officer for a traffic violation and started shouting how Trump is picking up Latinos off the streets and throwing them in concentration camps, you are probably going to be asked to perform a field sobriety test.

In Germany during Hitlers reign most Germans believed the camps to be nothing more than unsubstantiated rumors. They didn't know any different until near the end of the war.

That we know about them now is because information travels faster these days. Yet it seems you still don't believe, and would rather defend the policy.

a reply to: Aazadan

My God

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Then you might want to address the issue where not agreeing with the ideology you endorse does not make us all Nazi's.

Extreme nationalist rhetoric.
Concentration camps for minorities.
White supremacy policies.
Bannon, Gorka, Miller, etc in positions of influence.
Ripping families apart.
Support for dictators around the world.
Retreat from supporting human rights.
Defending these policies with "just following orders"

We are in Nazi territory. Not all Republicans, but the Trump wing are actual nazi's going by policies they support.

And that's where you lose the argument.

If you can't even pretend to be rational, then I'll just post pretty unicorns in rebuttal.

It'd have as much substance as your posts.

a reply to: Aazadan

Not all Republicans, but the Trump wing are actual nazi'sgoing by policies they support.

...........

a reply to: Aazadan

Seriously.

Run for Office !!

See what happens.

See how many die in the streets then.

Sick.

Sick.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm providing policy examples, you're putting your head in the sand because you don't want to admit to what you're supporting.

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm providing policy examples, you're putting your head in the sand because you don't want to admit to what you're supporting.

No you're not.

Your bias has blinded you to thinking rationally.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Referring to immigrants as vermin and animals infesting the country, and warning Americans that they're breeding.

Do you think it's ok to refer to people in those terms? The Nazi's did.

a reply to: Aazadan


Again, out of context, distorted reasoning, irrational interpretation.

a reply to: DBCowboy

So you do think it's ok to dehumanize people, including children.

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: DBCowboy

So you do think it's ok to dehumanize people, including children.

You are very irrational and obviously aren't thinking clearly.

A better question might be: can anyone find a country that doesn’t detain and/or separate families given the same circumstances? Canada does, And its detention centres are surrounded by razor wire. The United States is being very progressive here.

The study examined the experiences of 20 families who were detained in the Toronto and Laval holding centres and found that, in nearly half the cases, children ended up being separated from their parents at some point in the asylum-seeking process.

In detention, mothers are normally permitted to stay with their children. Fathers, on the other hand, are kept separate and only allowed to visit their spouse and children twice a day for about 15 to 30 minutes, according to the study.

In some cases, detained asylum seekers have lived in the country without status for years. In detention, they are given the option of keeping their Canadian-born children with them or sending them to live with extended family or in the custody of provincial youth protection services.

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
Problem solved.

Trump Wins

Next fake crisis plz.

What do they do about children who are not related to the adults that brought them over?

Hmmm. Maybe everyone on the left can legally adopt one kid taking full financial responsibility for that child. Two birds, one stone. No kids in detainment, and U.S. taxpayers aren't paying for them.