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posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 08:24 AM
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one thing i don't think most people understand or seem to notice is that america has only threatened tariffs, we haven't even implemented any tariffs in actuality, all the rest of the world has done is exposed their real face to us by reacting like this. proving everything trump has said about them trying to screw us over as being correct.




posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: namehere

Um... What?

Trump hits allies with metal tariffs; Mexico, EU and Canada vow to retaliate

President Trump is imposing steep tariffs on steel and aluminum from three of America's biggest trading partners — Canada, Mexico and the European Union.

The trade penalties, 25% on imported steel and 10% on imported aluminum, take effect at midnight, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross told reporters Thursday.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: links234

Yeah that's the ticket.

Attack regular people.

Works every time.




posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
The way the trade is set up now, it benefits the consumer market in the states but inhibits the manufacturing market in the states.


We've been a consumer society for too long, in my opinion.


We need to get back to manufacturing. Only way to do that is to renegotiate trade agreements.


Wait.

Let me absorb that wisdom.

Yup.

It makes sense !!

🚬🔏



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

they were offered negotiations but refused to do anything about it, why shouldn't we push back and do what we said if they won't back down? at this point even if this wasn't our intention, we have to stick to our words or other nations will continue pushing us around and treating us with disrespect, clinton, bush and obama weakened our position with their cowardly beggar economic policy, cowing to everyone at our own expense.

there wouldn't be actual tariffs if they had acted like allies and had negotiated more fair trade deals, but no, they didn't take anything seriously and kept going, straight disrespect right in our face, as if they think themselves superior.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:16 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
The way the trade is set up now, it benefits the consumer market in the states but inhibits the manufacturing market in the states.


We've been a consumer society for too long, in my opinion.


We need to get back to manufacturing. Only way to do that is to renegotiate trade agreements.


Tarrifs that increase the cost of raw materials are unlikely to help US manufacturing.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:23 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy
The way the trade is set up now, it benefits the consumer market in the states but inhibits the manufacturing market in the states.


We've been a consumer society for too long, in my opinion.


We need to get back to manufacturing. Only way to do that is to renegotiate trade agreements.


Tarrifs that increase the cost of raw materials are unlikely to help US manufacturing.



How does it benefit the US manufacturing market to flood the US with cheaper goods from elsewhere?



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:28 AM
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all they had to do was lower their tariffs and none of this would be necessary but they want to play coy about it, even if trump didn't intend to actually implement tariffs, he has little choice now, otherwise other nations won't take his word seriously in the future.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy
The way the trade is set up now, it benefits the consumer market in the states but inhibits the manufacturing market in the states.


We've been a consumer society for too long, in my opinion.


We need to get back to manufacturing. Only way to do that is to renegotiate trade agreements.


Tarrifs that increase the cost of raw materials are unlikely to help US manufacturing.



How does it benefit the US manufacturing market to flood the US with cheaper goods from elsewhere?


The tarrifs seem to be targeted against materials rather than finished goods. Pushing up the cost of raw materials will make US manufacturing less competitive.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy
The way the trade is set up now, it benefits the consumer market in the states but inhibits the manufacturing market in the states.


We've been a consumer society for too long, in my opinion.


We need to get back to manufacturing. Only way to do that is to renegotiate trade agreements.


Tarrifs that increase the cost of raw materials are unlikely to help US manufacturing.



How does it benefit the US manufacturing market to flood the US with cheaper goods from elsewhere?


The tarrifs seem to be targeted against materials rather than finished goods. Pushing up the cost of raw materials will make US manufacturing less competitive.



Perhaps other nations should lower their taxes on US goods, which could also spur US manufacturing.


Or is there some reason why US manufacturing should not be productive?



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

Some people don't mind paying a little more if it means jobs go to local people rather than one job for the CEO and the others for people the other side of the world.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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Let me see if i get this right.

All presidents, all politicians, all the two oligarch parties that rule your country, that ever made any contracts with other nations, were complete, insane, anti-patriotic morons that only wanted to damage the "U"SA and it´s people?

And only Trump, his puppetmasters and his supporters are intelligent enough to recognize that "alternative fact"!

Like ever. The complete world is wrong, only the Trump "U"SA is able to see, because of it´s magical, evangelican wisdom that the other Untermenschen, the rest of the world, doesn´t have.

Like:


That must be the reason for some people to believe the Trump "U"SA could win a (trade-?)war against the rest of the world, that the "U"SA is the paradise on earth that needs nobody and nothing else than what is available in the "U"SA.
Stupid fighting against one or two "enemies"(the rest of the world that is not strong enough, from the view of the Trump "U"SA, seems to be "U"SAs enemy now, but China...) would maybe work, for a short time, but against almost the complete world?

We had other megalomaniacs in history that thought like that.

And failed miserably!



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy
The way the trade is set up now, it benefits the consumer market in the states but inhibits the manufacturing market in the states.


We've been a consumer society for too long, in my opinion.


We need to get back to manufacturing. Only way to do that is to renegotiate trade agreements.


Tarrifs that increase the cost of raw materials are unlikely to help US manufacturing.



How does it benefit the US manufacturing market to flood the US with cheaper goods from elsewhere?


The tarrifs seem to be targeted against materials rather than finished goods. Pushing up the cost of raw materials will make US manufacturing less competitive.



Perhaps other nations should lower their taxes on US goods, which could also spur US manufacturing.


Or is there some reason why US manufacturing should not be productive?


Absolutely no reason it should not be productive, but raising costs won't make it competitive.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy
The way the trade is set up now, it benefits the consumer market in the states but inhibits the manufacturing market in the states.


We've been a consumer society for too long, in my opinion.


We need to get back to manufacturing. Only way to do that is to renegotiate trade agreements.


Tarrifs that increase the cost of raw materials are unlikely to help US manufacturing.



How does it benefit the US manufacturing market to flood the US with cheaper goods from elsewhere?


The tarrifs seem to be targeted against materials rather than finished goods. Pushing up the cost of raw materials will make US manufacturing less competitive.



Perhaps other nations should lower their taxes on US goods, which could also spur US manufacturing.


Or is there some reason why US manufacturing should not be productive?


Absolutely no reason it should not be productive, but raising costs won't make it competitive.


Raising costs on foreign goods would.

Hence the "trade war".



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: ScepticScot

Some people don't mind paying a little more if it means jobs go to local people rather than one job for the CEO and the others for people the other side of the world.



If people wanted to by US they would. They are unlikely to buy more when prices go up.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy
The way the trade is set up now, it benefits the consumer market in the states but inhibits the manufacturing market in the states.


We've been a consumer society for too long, in my opinion.


We need to get back to manufacturing. Only way to do that is to renegotiate trade agreements.


Tarrifs that increase the cost of raw materials are unlikely to help US manufacturing.



How does it benefit the US manufacturing market to flood the US with cheaper goods from elsewhere?


The tarrifs seem to be targeted against materials rather than finished goods. Pushing up the cost of raw materials will make US manufacturing less competitive.



Perhaps other nations should lower their taxes on US goods, which could also spur US manufacturing.


Or is there some reason why US manufacturing should not be productive?


Absolutely no reason it should not be productive, but raising costs won't make it competitive.


Raising costs on foreign goods would.

Hence the "trade war".


Tarrifs are on raw materials. That makes goods requiring those materials more expensive when made in the US.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy
The way the trade is set up now, it benefits the consumer market in the states but inhibits the manufacturing market in the states.


We've been a consumer society for too long, in my opinion.


We need to get back to manufacturing. Only way to do that is to renegotiate trade agreements.


Tarrifs that increase the cost of raw materials are unlikely to help US manufacturing.



How does it benefit the US manufacturing market to flood the US with cheaper goods from elsewhere?


The tarrifs seem to be targeted against materials rather than finished goods. Pushing up the cost of raw materials will make US manufacturing less competitive.



Perhaps other nations should lower their taxes on US goods, which could also spur US manufacturing.


Or is there some reason why US manufacturing should not be productive?


Absolutely no reason it should not be productive, but raising costs won't make it competitive.


Raising costs on foreign goods would.

Hence the "trade war".


Tarrifs are on raw materials. That makes goods requiring those materials more expensive when made in the US.



Then the focus shifts to raw materials available in the US.

Enabling more internal growth and opportunity.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy
The way the trade is set up now, it benefits the consumer market in the states but inhibits the manufacturing market in the states.


We've been a consumer society for too long, in my opinion.


We need to get back to manufacturing. Only way to do that is to renegotiate trade agreements.


Tarrifs that increase the cost of raw materials are unlikely to help US manufacturing.



How does it benefit the US manufacturing market to flood the US with cheaper goods from elsewhere?


The tarrifs seem to be targeted against materials rather than finished goods. Pushing up the cost of raw materials will make US manufacturing less competitive.



Perhaps other nations should lower their taxes on US goods, which could also spur US manufacturing.


Or is there some reason why US manufacturing should not be productive?


Absolutely no reason it should not be productive, but raising costs won't make it competitive.


Raising costs on foreign goods would.

Hence the "trade war".


Tarrifs are on raw materials. That makes goods requiring those materials more expensive when made in the US.



Then the focus shifts to raw materials available in the US.

Enabling more internal growth and opportunity.


If US suppliers could provide those raw materials cheaper they would.

Either US manufacturers buy from more expensive US suppliers or they buy more expensive supplies from abroad. Either way costs go up.



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:50 AM
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a reply to: namehere

No. There is literally no good reason to institute these tariffs except if we want to make enemies out of our closest allies and start a trade war. Stop believing everything Trump tells you. He's a liar.

The only country disrespecting anyone is the US to everyone else.
edit on 1-6-2018 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 1 2018 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

But if more people have proper jobs then surely US made products will sell. It not only about money either, some men just like to work in industry, working in paperwork jobs or ROAND MACdonals mking burgers does not suit all men. I'm one of them we like industry




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