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originally posted by: ScepticScot
Just because there is a tiny number of non whites who oppose Muslims enough to support the EDL doesn't negate that its membership is overwhelmingly white and has a significant overlap with out right racist organisations.
Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
Policy Exchange (2016): 48% of British Muslims would not report a person "linked to terror."
BBC (2007): 36% of younger Muslims in the UK believe a Muslim should be killed for converting to another religion (19% of those over 55 agree).
BBC Poll: 1 in 10 British Muslims support killing a family member over "dishonor".
originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Grambler
So I guess using the same logic you are using, people declaring tommy guilty are in effect want child groomers to walk free.
This doesn't even make sense??
originally posted by: Xenogears
originally posted by: ScepticScot
Just because there is a tiny number of non whites who oppose Muslims enough to support the EDL doesn't negate that its membership is overwhelmingly white and has a significant overlap with out right racist organisations.
We've all seen the polls, polls that are now being barred from being made again without careful PC tweaks, in many muslim countries a substantial portion of the population is in support of extremist positions. 100s of millions. Let them in by the masses, and it is not an insignificant minority of extremists, but a substantial portion of most muslim majority nation populations.
Second and Third generations of migrants have been seen to become highly radicalized in many cases.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Grambler
So I guess using the same logic you are using, people declaring tommy guilty are in effect want child groomers to walk free.
This doesn't even make sense??
Well of course it doesnt make sense to someone like you.
Your argument.
People that support tommy here must want peodphiles to go free, because his reporting could be claimed by the groomers to sway jurors and get the case tossed out.
In other words, Tommy be out of jail and allowed to continue his commenting would allow pedophiles to walk free.
My argument then follows thusly.
People that are declaring tommy a nazi, racist, or guilty are potnetially swaying urors, and thus may allow him to stay out of jail by claiming jurors were swayed.
Hence he will be on the street, and then allowed to continue his comments, and thus allowing grommers to go free.
So by using your logic, everyone who is declaring tommy guilty MUST want groomers to go free.
originally posted by: 83Liberty
a reply to: Outlier13
No problem. I'm happy to help people who are open minded and willing to learn more
I think this is a good one from Oxford Union, if you can spare an hour...
It's basically the backstory. He explains what he has been through, how his home town Luton has changed dramatically, and how the police have failed these young girls.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Outlier13
The topic is a known violent criminal being arrested. Your post the one you think I don't understand is suggesting that the media and the court system in the U K is actively covering instances of rapes commited by Muslim people. Which is nothing more than delusional and by your definition trolling as it is not the topic.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Irishhaf
There seems to have been a misunderstanding.
People believe, largely owing to a lack of intellect, that being against violence used to oppress the weak, is the same as being against violence for any reason. I however, accept that unfortunately, the human race is such a thing, as to present examples of people who must be countered in total fashion, with no opportunity for them to survive to continue to threaten the whole.
The thing that sets me and others of my thinking apart from our cousins across the water, and indeed those within my own nation who believe that wiping out religious groups on the basis of poor behaviour on the part of a statistically irrelevant few is acceptable, is that unlike those folk, I am correct to say that the target of my ire is a threat to the rest, where as our American cousins and some of my less intellectually capable countrymen are not.
I am correct to say that fascists, racists and eugenicists should be countered in absolute fashion, that if they dare to try and take power for themselves, they must be eradicated without delay, because unlike any of the religious groups on Earth, whose members range from the entirely peaceful overwhelming majority, to the small number of nutters and thugs we see scapegoated on the news, fascists, racists and eugenicists are ALL a threat to our species, its peace, its ability to act as a cohesive unit, and its ability to continue to exist going forward.
The historical evidence for that is overwhelming, which means if I am having to explain these things at all, then with respect, someone needs to go ahead and do some research.
Violence used to prevent the destruction of the entire species, by those who would have us all inbreeding and failing to learn and grow, violence used to protect liberty from the grasping hands of the fascist tyrants of Tommy's sort, is not wrong. Being willing to embrace brutality against those who pose a mortal threat to the entire population of this planet, is not morally or ethically incorrect. It is pragmatic. The species must survive, and it will not if it is divided by ignorant people, following a flawed policy which has been proven to be fallacious by science, by philosophical examination, and by the harrowing effects of its deeds in the past.
I am unwilling to permit Nazis to rise in my vicinity without their utter and total destruction coming about. I am no pacifist. I merely differ from others in that unlike Robinson and his ilk, I am right about the identity of the true threat to this planets population, where as they are not. Unlike them, I am correct when I say that ALL my enemies mean to harm our species, that NONE of them are innocent in heart, that ALL are corrupted by ignorant fury, and are willing to see us all burn, rather than survive, if survival means accepting that which they do not understand.