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Tommy Robinson (Arrested)

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posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot


Just because there is a tiny number of non whites who oppose Muslims enough to support the EDL doesn't negate that its membership is overwhelmingly white and has a significant overlap with out right racist organisations.


We've all seen the polls, polls that are now being barred from being made again without careful PC tweaks, in many muslim countries a substantial portion of the population is in support of extremist positions. 100s of millions. Let them in by the masses, and it is not an insignificant minority of extremists, but a substantial portion of most muslim majority nation populations.

Second and Third generations of migrants have been seen to become highly radicalized in many cases.




posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: Kurokage

Yes ok, my opinion about Robinsons Arrest is 'FAIL'. and that's all I have to say about that.



posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Grambler




So I guess using the same logic you are using, people declaring tommy guilty are in effect want child groomers to walk free.



This doesn't even make sense??



posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:26 AM
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A small snippet.


Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
Policy Exchange (2016): 48% of British Muslims would not report a person "linked to terror."

BBC (2007): 36% of younger Muslims in the UK believe a Muslim should be killed for converting to another religion (19% of those over 55 agree).

BBC Poll: 1 in 10 British Muslims support killing a family member over "dishonor".


Keep in mind these are those who're bold to say what they believe, due to islamic taqiyya there may be notably more that say the contrary to keep appearances.

There is a substantial number of extremists, and extremism seems to become more common in younger generations.
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posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Grambler




So I guess using the same logic you are using, people declaring tommy guilty are in effect want child groomers to walk free.



This doesn't even make sense??


Well of course it doesnt make sense to someone like you.

Your argument.

People that support tommy here must want peodphiles to go free, because his reporting could be claimed by the groomers to sway jurors and get the case tossed out.

In other words, Tommy be out of jail and allowed to continue his commenting would allow pedophiles to walk free.

My argument then follows thusly.

People that are declaring tommy a nazi, racist, or guilty are potnetially swaying urors, and thus may allow him to stay out of jail by claiming jurors were swayed.

Hence he will be on the street, and then allowed to continue his comments, and thus allowing grommers to go free.

So by using your logic, everyone who is declaring tommy guilty MUST want groomers to go free.



posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: ScepticScot


Just because there is a tiny number of non whites who oppose Muslims enough to support the EDL doesn't negate that its membership is overwhelmingly white and has a significant overlap with out right racist organisations.


We've all seen the polls, polls that are now being barred from being made again without careful PC tweaks, in many muslim countries a substantial portion of the population is in support of extremist positions. 100s of millions. Let them in by the masses, and it is not an insignificant minority of extremists, but a substantial portion of most muslim majority nation populations.

Second and Third generations of migrants have been seen to become highly radicalized in many cases.


Yes... it's unfortunate that people in Westernized Nations don't care about that.



posted on May, 28 2018 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: Xenogears

Polls and factual statistics are WORTHLESS when arguing with them. They don't care about them. Even if they are 100% factual and support your argument they will just ignore them and move on.


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posted on May, 28 2018 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Grambler




So I guess using the same logic you are using, people declaring tommy guilty are in effect want child groomers to walk free.



This doesn't even make sense??


Well of course it doesnt make sense to someone like you.

Your argument.

People that support tommy here must want peodphiles to go free, because his reporting could be claimed by the groomers to sway jurors and get the case tossed out.

In other words, Tommy be out of jail and allowed to continue his commenting would allow pedophiles to walk free.

My argument then follows thusly.

People that are declaring tommy a nazi, racist, or guilty are potnetially swaying urors, and thus may allow him to stay out of jail by claiming jurors were swayed.

Hence he will be on the street, and then allowed to continue his comments, and thus allowing grommers to go free.

So by using your logic, everyone who is declaring tommy guilty MUST want groomers to go free.


What doesn't make sense is your English. All you had to do was clarify what you meant to type in your post, instead you attempt an insult hahaha.


This has been said to you before but.....

ATS is an American server now and Robinson is not in front of a jury so anything typed on this forum here has no influence on anyone involved in a court case. Robinson being in contempt does!!

So by using YOUR logic, defending Robinson and your wrongfully conceived rights of Robinson like you have been doing means YOU support child groomers and rapists. See what I did there.
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posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: 83Liberty
a reply to: Outlier13
No problem. I'm happy to help people who are open minded and willing to learn more


I think this is a good one from Oxford Union, if you can spare an hour...



It's basically the backstory. He explains what he has been through, how his home town Luton has changed dramatically, and how the police have failed these young girls.


Wow. I watched the video in its entirety. I am now also watching many others with his message. It's clear the MSM in the UK is making him out to be something he is not. This is frightening on a new level because the very same thing is slowly and systematically occurring in the United States. Many who read that comment will think I am being bigoted by that statement but the reality is its true. Extremist Islamists are taking a mile after we've given them an inch.

Thanks for sharing. It's clear now Tommy Robinson was intentionally put back into prison and I fear he will there a martyr.



posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: Outlier13

I know another poor misunderstood criminal his name is Mike Brown, why aren't you out defending him?

Why are you so worried about this poor misunderstood criminal?



posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:14 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Re-read my post. Unless your reading comprehension is challenged?



posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: Outlier13

I read it you're defending a poor misunderstood criminal, like I said Mike Brown needs your support after all he is also just a poor misunderstood criminal... Right?
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posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

If you can't stick to the topic then it means you are trolling.



posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:25 PM
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a reply to: Outlier13

The topic is a known violent criminal being arrested. Your post the one you think I don't understand is suggesting that the media and the court system in the U K is actively covering instances of rapes commited by Muslim people. Which is nothing more than delusional and by your definition trolling as it is not the topic.
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posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:37 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Outlier13

The topic is a known violent criminal being arrested. Your post the one you think I don't understand is suggesting that the media and the court system in the U K is actively covering instances of rapes commited by Muslim people. Which is nothing more than delusional and by your definition trolling as it is not the topic.


Yet the statistics to disprove your statement are there for anyone to have a look at. You do lack reading comprehension. My message was simple. What has occurred in the UK is and has been occurring within the US as well. Usurp the power of the police by creating a litigious environment where an officer cannot make a lawful arrest for fear of persecution and prosecution. Driven by the leftist narrative that if police arrest people of color, religious beliefs etc, then it could only mean the police was targeting said subject as a result of their race or religious belief. Irrespective of the crime or intent of a crime being committed.

The policy makers are the bad guys...not the rank and file. Case in point is our illustrious FBI and DOJ. The heads at the top are the bad guys who sacrifice the integrity and honor of the rank and file. It's being played out all over the world.

So you can call Tommy Robinson a "criminal" but that does not make him one. You have the right to disagree with his belief system but you don't have the right to attempt to silence him or anyone else for that matter. If you don't have an argument then stop trolling.



posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:46 PM
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a reply to: Outlier13

Right, well I won't argue that the system is flawed, it is what it is, you like anyone else are free to petition the government to have laws changed, there is a process for that.

However Tommy is a criminal, he has previously served a prison sentence for mortgage fraud and that has nothing to do with my imagination, only your inability comprehend the facts.



posted on May, 28 2018 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

He's been arrested for more than that. However, it does not take away from the validity of his message and his desire to rid his country of what he sees as imported toxicity. I identify with his message because I see the exact same thing occurring here. Even in my own city. With a known radical mosque who is allowed to operate and spread their hate speech openly and freely because we have a leftist socialist mayor with his eye on the governor's seat.

Are you from the UK? Were you born in the UK? I am not but I have been traveling to and from the UK for 28 years and have seen the SUBSTANTIAL changes as a result of radicalization there. Not even close to the same UK I knew in the early 90s. So there is zero argument you can give me that says the "progressive change" in the UK has been a good thing. A guy like Tommy comes along and red pills people and you think this is a bad thing?


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posted on May, 28 2018 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: Outlier13

I'm not a fan of Islam and any rape gangs out there can be castrated and jailed as far as I'm concerned. No doubt that heinous stuff is going on those criminals were in court and if convicted they will pay for their crimes.

Tommy Robinson however is not a good bloke, he's not the kind of guy that deserves to put on a pedestal as a hero, the reason I made the remark about Mike Brown is Tommy Robinson is in the same category as brown, a frigging thug and a criminal.

ETA... I lived in the UK for 10 years before I moved to oz, my family are dotted across the UK, last time I went back was 8 years ago, I will be back sometime this year, and yes England is changing, just like every other western nation.
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posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:26 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Irishhaf

There seems to have been a misunderstanding.

People believe, largely owing to a lack of intellect, that being against violence used to oppress the weak, is the same as being against violence for any reason. I however, accept that unfortunately, the human race is such a thing, as to present examples of people who must be countered in total fashion, with no opportunity for them to survive to continue to threaten the whole.

The thing that sets me and others of my thinking apart from our cousins across the water, and indeed those within my own nation who believe that wiping out religious groups on the basis of poor behaviour on the part of a statistically irrelevant few is acceptable, is that unlike those folk, I am correct to say that the target of my ire is a threat to the rest, where as our American cousins and some of my less intellectually capable countrymen are not.

I am correct to say that fascists, racists and eugenicists should be countered in absolute fashion, that if they dare to try and take power for themselves, they must be eradicated without delay, because unlike any of the religious groups on Earth, whose members range from the entirely peaceful overwhelming majority, to the small number of nutters and thugs we see scapegoated on the news, fascists, racists and eugenicists are ALL a threat to our species, its peace, its ability to act as a cohesive unit, and its ability to continue to exist going forward.

The historical evidence for that is overwhelming, which means if I am having to explain these things at all, then with respect, someone needs to go ahead and do some research.

Violence used to prevent the destruction of the entire species, by those who would have us all inbreeding and failing to learn and grow, violence used to protect liberty from the grasping hands of the fascist tyrants of Tommy's sort, is not wrong. Being willing to embrace brutality against those who pose a mortal threat to the entire population of this planet, is not morally or ethically incorrect. It is pragmatic. The species must survive, and it will not if it is divided by ignorant people, following a flawed policy which has been proven to be fallacious by science, by philosophical examination, and by the harrowing effects of its deeds in the past.

I am unwilling to permit Nazis to rise in my vicinity without their utter and total destruction coming about. I am no pacifist. I merely differ from others in that unlike Robinson and his ilk, I am right about the identity of the true threat to this planets population, where as they are not. Unlike them, I am correct when I say that ALL my enemies mean to harm our species, that NONE of them are innocent in heart, that ALL are corrupted by ignorant fury, and are willing to see us all burn, rather than survive, if survival means accepting that which they do not understand.



Hows the view from that penthouse soapbox of yours ?


Sorry mate, but as Ive noticed quite a few times around these parts, you're deliberately being intellectually dishonest about the true state of things in the UK.

Maybe Tommy goes too far at times but he isn't abusing, raping, killing and generally taking advantage of young girls. The police knew about it and did nothing for fear of being called "RACISTTTTTT!!!!!"

Sickening.

You need to take it from Trevor Phillips directly



Harrowing stories behind britains worst ever child grooming scandal
Telford just the 'tip of the iceberg'


Telford is supposedly the WORST EVER grooming scandal in the UK, with one entire family MURDERED to cover up the abuse a muslim, YES MUSLIM, perpetrated, yet even BBC are running stories saying it may be the 'Tip of the Iceberg' ??

They did this over and over in almost every major city in the UK because they knew THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT. Police were notified, and they did nothing.


Yea, sorry mate, you're WRONG.



posted on May, 29 2018 @ 02:34 AM
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if he does die in prison, that will be one less piece of toxic filth


while on the other hand..let's not allow for Breivik to die in prison.




once great nation


agreed.



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