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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: kaylaluv
I won’t be letting liberal Nazis into my home for any random check. Are you seriously advocating for government operatives to enter peoples private homes and look for violations? Do you really think this would stop at guns?
This is one of the most asinine suggestions in the history of ATS.
originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt
A 17 year old stole his fathers shotgun and revolver and shot up his school and killed 10 people.Will the media...
A. Give the story little coverage because they cant use it to push the "scary gun" ban
B. Reveal the true agenda and start covering more people saying "ban all guns" in order to move the narrative and get people used to idea.
C. Somehow still make it about AR-15s
This is a good case to watch because it lets us see what the debate would be like if all semiautomatic guns were banned. What do gun control people and "moderates" say when someone uses a pump gun, and a revolver to commit a mass killing as they would if semiautos were banned. Do they say "well.... we banned the bad guns. Nothing more to be done here" or do they move on to trying to ban the next set of arbitrarily defined tools.
Where it is judged necessary, based on specific intelligence in light of a particular threat, or risk of harm, the police may undertake an unannounced home visit to check the security of a certificate holder's firearms and shotguns. It is not expected that the police will undertake an unannounced home visit at an unsocial hour unless there is a justified and specific requirement to do so on the grounds of crime prevention or public safety concerns and the police judge that this action is both justified and proportionate. It is recognised that there is no new power of entry for police or police staff when conducting home visits. To mitigate any misunderstanding on the part of the certificate holder the police must provide a clear and reasoned explanation to the certificate holder at the time of the visit.
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: kaylaluv
This is why we should require by law guns be locked up at all times, and we should have random checks to make sure they are - I believe there are other countries that do this.
Other countries may allow for random checks in your home.
In this country, that would be just a tad unconstitutional.
originally posted by: Voyaging
a reply to: Whoisjohngalt
I wonder if schools started actually reprimanding bullys instead of trying to protect them more often then not, then maybe the bullied kids who don't get any help or support from the adults that they justifiably expect help and support from, would not jump to such crazy, angry, last-resort type decisions to commit a mass act of violence.
originally posted by: Assassin82
I’m pro 2nd amendment, but this is the most ignorant thread I’ve ever seen.
Instead of jumping into the usual back and forth of this debate, how about we sit back and mourn for these murdered, innocent youth.