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F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen

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posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

The problem is that Mueller's team is ideologically brainwashed into attacking Trump. These people legitimately believe he's a threat to their utopia democracy (vs. our existing democratic Constitutional Republic - which is quite different from a democracy)

They are the type of folks who are glued to CNN/Rachel Maddow/Jimmy Kimmel and all those other brain dead "celebs" who peddle their opinion around like it was some kind of fact. They get their news from those types of sources, and parrot the allegations like they are anything other than political retribution from a failed ideology in its death throes.




posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

But what you miss here is that slick willy violated the public's trust by engaging in that behavior while IN OFFICE. Possibly IN the oval office, in fact.

Trump, however, was a private citizen when this ALLEGEDLY happened. Nothing has been proven whatsoever. Hush money is common before elections and high profile events. Who's lawyer paid one of many people claiming to have slept with him in order to ensure the radical left didn't have any ammo to use against him at election time. Sorry, too busy *winning* to worry about POTUS and some stripper from a decade ago.

This, too, will not bring down POTUS.

And don't forget, Mueller confessed Trump is not and has not been a criminal target in his investigation.

It is the dirty actions of the Clinton campaign/DNC/their sychophants who peddled disinformation en-masse after the election. Their impotent rage lead to a vast slurry of false accusations, multidimensional propaganda assailing his reputation and a host of other entirely unproven allegations. The tip of this iceberg of BS however is the dirty dossier that Clinton first lied about commissioning (then later confessed)

Anytime someone says "this isn't about Hillary Clinton" they're actually being her useful idiot. This is infact entirely about Hillary Clinton, and the innuendo/rumors/intentional libel against President Trump. Then again, the only power most washed up political hacks (like Clinton) has is their over-sized mouths.

Big on talk, short on evidence.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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What a circus. Our country is on the brink of collapse. A team of democrats so called lawyers will stop at nothing to find a crime trump committed. I am still trying to figure out how his lawyer will prove Russian collusion.

Seriously reminds me of Monty python stupidity here.

stupidity


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posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:00 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Just to add some info.

Bill Clintons mess is what defined the limits of the doctrine of sovereign immunity for the President. Clinton tried to argue he was protected by that doctrine as President. The courts ruled anything that occurs prior to becoming President are not covered under that doctrine and by extension the President is subject to court actions.

Clintons tryst with women, before and after he was elected, was not a crime.

His lying about it under oath is what got him.

The same thing MUeller is trying to do here. Going back to Stormy Daniels she already tried once to get a judge to allow her lawyer to interrogate Trump and his lawyer under oath. The judge denied the request however they just filed another motion to do it.

No one else finds it too coincidental that Mueller tries for the perjury trap only to see another lawyer going after Trump trying the same tactic?

Nothing suspicious there...



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: SlapMonkey

He had been using the hotel for a while due to a burst pipe at his home.



It's getting to the point where it will become feverishly popular for Trump to fire Mueller, the People are sick of it already. The point where it becomes political gold, is when Trump will fire him.

I predict the firing will be close to midterms, to catapult Trump agenda candidates over the finish line and dominate the headlines as the Dems scamper around thinking they got him this time, like every time before.

11D chess.

He never stood a chance with those poll numbers right?
The parade of women marched out against him should have stopped him right?
Last minute Billy Bush tape was the ultimate ace in the hole right?
He should have been gone by now right?
He will never survive the midterms right?

A masterpiece is being played out before us on the pages of history.

Some attorney pays Stormy pornsmutt with his own money, a couple hundred thousand is nothing to a money loving lawyer who is sucking up to a billionaire. In their mind it is just goodwill they are banking. He would probably mortgage his house on the personal investment dreaming of a reward in the future for unsolicited loyalty. It by no way adds validity one way or the other to the gold digging porn woman's claims. She found someone willing to pay is all it proves.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: Bicent
What a circus. Our country is on the brink of collapse. A team of democrats so called lawyers will stop at nothing to find a crime trump committed. I am still trying to figure out how his lawyer will prove Russian collusion.

Seriously reminds me of Monty python stupidity here.



Collusion is nonexistent so he will never find it.

I get the impression that if they cant bring Trump down they will do everything in their power to ensure Trump is distracted from leading while Democrats obstruct everything just to spite him.

I think that mindset by the left is ironic.

They (Democrats/Clinton) claim not all Americans are deplorable yet they think the people who elected Trump got it wrong and want to redo it. In that action they are in fact saying the people who voted for Trump arent intelligent enough to vote correctly.

The nanny state apparently knows best.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:07 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Nah this looks more like treason.. the democrats will stop at nothing. To bring the country down



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: IAMTAT

Notice who has NOT been raided by the FBI yet?? Fusion GPS, Perkins Coie, Steele, Podesta Group, Clinton Foundation, Averatti, or anybody connected with the democratic side of the issues under investigation... Funny how that works, right?? Its nice we don't have a witch hunt/Coup/Election rigging happening before our eyes....


Why would it happen, when Mueller's team is made up of Dem donors and included people like Strzok.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:10 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Its getting to the point that I want some heavy handed, "fist on the table" type reactions from the executive branch.

Once people are detained, they can start whatever legal process they see fit. They would still be without freedom and have to answer to someone.

If they are uncooperative then black-site them after a Marine raid. I would like to see what the FBI or anyone for that matter would do to a bunch of Marines with an order from the President in hand.



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posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:10 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: IAMTAT

New York Times reports that the warrants were issued on a referral by Robert S. Mueller.


It seems the "natives" (Trumpets) are restless.

Already putting on their war paint.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

It will be prosecuted by the southern district of New York state. That's where he did business. If there is something prosecute him for.
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posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:12 PM
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This investigation is a political set up from the beginning. Our law enforcement leadership has gone corrupt and rotten to the core. Its a race against time for Trump and these corrupt law and Intel top level leadership to see who can get to the finish line first. Make no mistake about it. We are witnessing deep state corruption being exposed and simultaneously fighting for its existence because if Trump only because he's not their puppet and nothing else.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: Bicent
a reply to: Xcathdra

Nah this looks more like treason.. the democrats will stop at nothing. To bring the country down



Speaking of irony...

Mueller Reportedly Investigating Ukraine Payment To Trump Foundation

Special counsel Robert Mueller is reportedly investigating a $150,000 donation made to President Donald Trump’s foundation by a Ukrainian steel magnate in September 2015.

The New York Times, citing three unnamed people with knowledge of the matter, reported on Monday that the inquiry pertained to a payment Ukrainian billionaire Victor Pinchuk made to the Donald J. Trump Foundation for a 20-minute video appearance by Trump to a conference in Kiev.

The White House didn’t immediately return HuffPost’s request for comment.

The review of Pinchuk’s payment is part of Mueller’s larger probe into streams of foreign money Trump may have had access to in the years leading up to the 2016 presidential election, the Times reported.

Trump’s attorney Michael Cohen reportedly personally solicited the donation to the foundation.

Cohen’s New York offices and hotel room were raided by the FBI on Monday in an apparently unrelated probe.

Ukrainian funds were also at the center of the indictment of Trump’s former campaign chair, Paul Manafort, when a federal grand jury brought forth charges against him for allegedly laundering millions of dollars in funds he accrued while working for former pro-Russian Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.


Apparently donating to foundations is only a problem if your last name is not Clinton.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Napolitano suspects Cohen took out the $140k as part of a mortgage loan to pay the porn star and possibly lied to the bank about what the loan was for.



Wait a minute.

Daniels was paid by the LLC that Cohen set up, Essential Consultants. The NDA that paid Daniels was administrated though the LLC.

Legally, it would have to have been the LLC that would have taken out the mortgage loan from the bank, not Mr. Cohen, unless he was recorded as the managing member of the LLC, and then only if it were a multi-member LLC (since a single member LLC is a disregarded entity).

So who were the other member(s) of the LLC? Trump?

Why would an LLC take out a mortgage loan (unless it owns a mortgages property)?

As a real estate developer, I am sure Trump is familiar with the establishment of LLC’s to hold and manage real estate holdings.

Who approved the reappropriation of the mortgage loan to pay Daniels?

Some interesting questions in this can of worms!



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

As gratifying as that might seem it is dangerous and illegal.

US citizens cant be black-sited.
Marines cant arrest civilians.
Civilians arent subject to military justice.

Keep it in the system we have and fight it from there. Exhaust every single action possible before drastic forms of redress of grievances.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:17 PM
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Well all I have to say is this investigation better prove collusion, if they wait til the 2020 election to reveal some kind of grey crap during the 2016 election it’s going to backfire. I am beginning to think that is there end game, drag this treasonous bull crap out as long as they can continuing to sow dissent. I am all for healthy political disagreements but this is getting pretty recognizable.
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posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:18 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra




 it is dangerous and illegal. 


Even if they are members of the government?


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posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

There wouldn't be any problem with them making a donation. So there must be more to the story.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Xcathdra




 it is dangerous and illegal. 


Even if they are members of the government?



Yup.

Posse Comitatus.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: IAMTAT

If this has anything to do with Mueller, time to fire his ass. This is so far outside the scope of "Russia collusion" debunked conspiracy theory it isn't even funny.

And yes, it was debunked the second Mueller conceded Trump wasn't an actual criminal target.

Fire him, and deal with the backlash later. No one is impeaching Trump, period. Worthless ineffectual GOP can't even get their act together to pass our agenda through congress, they sure as hell won't find support for impeachment. Really for any reason.


First, if you look at the document giving directions to the Special Counsel, the scope was much wider than just the Russia collusion issue. It included "any" criminal conduct uncovered during the investigation.
Second, the target designation has to do with internal DOJ procedures. If a prosecutor contemplates calling a person in front of a grand jury, under DOJ rules they must send a "target letter" to the person. During the 40 years I practiced in the federal courts, I saw a lot of people who were initially told, "you are not a target at this time" (which is the phrase Mueller used, who ended up being indicted. The "target" designation has absolutely nothing to do with a prosecutor's ability to indict later.
Finally, the fact that a judge issued a search warrant for a lawyer's papers tells me that Cohen, at least, is in real trouble. To get such a warrant for arguably privileged materials requires a strong showing that the lawyer and client have joint criminal culpability. There are a lot of hoops that have to be cleared to get this kind of warrant. It has to be cleared at multiple levels at Justice, including, unless they have changed the rules recently, the AG. So Sessions is probably in real trouble.







 
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