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F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen

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posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: Annee

What poetic justice if the porn star takes him down after all is said and done.




posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:28 PM
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Which of these seems more likely:

1. The entire Department of Justice is nothing but a bunch of leftists, who are conducting a baseless investigation into the activities of a Republican presidential campaign.

2. Trump is hiding something.

The FBI has never been considered a leftist agency, thats all I know.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: F4guy

Well let’s see the crimes then... if there are none oh boy,,, that will go over well.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: F4guy

Well let’s see the crimes then... if there are none oh boy,,, that will go over well.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:31 PM
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a reply to: Harpua

The special counsel is investigating Trump. The DOJ / FBI had a conflict of interest according to Rosenstein and could not investigate him.

The FBI was politicized under Obama.

Remember - Clinton was suppose to win. This Trump investigation was the "insurance policy" discussed. As for something to hide do you honestly believe if evidence of criminal activity by Trump were found it would be leaked all over the place like every other item Trump related?



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:31 PM
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Order 3915-2017 - Appointment of Special Counsel



(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James 8. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.


28 CFR 600.4(a)



(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.



edit on 9-4-2018 by Gryphon66 because: format



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:34 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

To investigate beyond Trump Russia bs Mueller would also need section B of 28 CFR 600.4.


(b)Additional jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel concludes that additional jurisdiction beyond that specified in his or her original jurisdiction is necessary in order to fully investigate and resolve the matters assigned, or to investigate new matters that come to light in the course of his or her investigation, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General, who will determine whether to include the additional matters within the Special Counsel's jurisdiction or assign them elsewhere.


Only original jurisdiction is authorized. Section B is not.
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posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Metallicus

The problem is that Mueller's team is ideologically brainwashed into attacking Trump. These people legitimately believe he's a threat to their utopia democracy (vs. our existing democratic Constitutional Republic - which is quite different from a democracy)

They are the type of folks who are glued to CNN/Rachel Maddow/Jimmy Kimmel and all those other brain dead "celebs" who peddle their opinion around like it was some kind of fact. They get their news from those types of sources, and parrot the allegations like they are anything other than political retribution from a failed ideology in its death throes.


Mueller investigation and team of biased partisan hack attorneys want to destroy anything associated with Trump including Trump himself. They are treating him like an untouchable mafia crime boss that they will pick away at his empire until he himself is in jail. For anything they can find for that matter. Find me the person and I'll find you the crime.

The entire thing was a setup from the beginning. Has anyone even question how Mueller was already on deck for special counsel before Comey was even fired? Rosenstein didn't even go through any interview or getting process to even hire a special counsel. Mueller was hired the next day.

I strongly believe that Comey was going to go with a special counsel even if he wasn't fired and it was going to be Mueller. Not to mention the conflict of interest that would have eliminated anyone else. Its a complete setup and yes a witch hunt that is

These people have been running hybrid democratic fascist state at every level of govt that's been drop drying our rights and trying to tear up the constitution. Trump ruined it for them. Hillary would have kept the machine running and we'd never even know about this kind of corruption.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:45 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Annee

What poetic justice if the porn star takes him down after all is said and done.


The problem with this Avenue is that it won't necessarily take him down. There was to much build up about "Russian Collusion" that anything less is going to be seen as suspected by Trumps supporters and a portion of the middle.... a sex scandal is the worst way to go because no one is going to care about a sex scandal except the opposition.

So anything less than Trump Russian collusion will come down to how many people in the middle can be swayed by a suspect investigation. I'd say not enough; it could even backfire if the middle throughs there hands up in disgust at the whole thing ... like they did in the 2016 elections that saw Trump win in the first place... despite all the sex scandals.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: Harpua
Which of these seems more likely:

1. The entire Department of Justice is nothing but a bunch of leftists, who are conducting a baseless investigation into the activities of a Republican presidential campaign.

2. Trump is hiding something.

The FBI has never been considered a leftist agency, thats all I know.


3. The swamp is full of creatures left and right.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:51 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
I cannot wait for Trump to tell Mueller...You're Fired!

What a ridiculous tool of the deep state he has become.


Here is how one spots an "Always, no matter what, Trumper"

First, neither know nor care about the facts. Mueller didn't plan the raid, he referred it to the NYC office to determine what to do.

Second, do you have any idea how many levels a no knock warrant has to go through to get approval from the U.S. Attorney's office? I'm talking a regular one, never mind the president's attorney, it means that alllll those people in the NYC FBI office must be "in on it" - AND, the NYC U.S. Attorney's Office, now overseen by a Trump appointee, who has to be "in on it."

One this big - the president's own laywer likely has to be signed off on by the Attorney General, which means Rob Rosesnstein signed off on it and is "in on it."

Furthermore, they had to convince a federal judge that a no-knock was required, and that means the judge is in on this deep state plot

The raid came only 4 days after Trump said he had NO idea that Cohen made the payment to Daniels - and I guess you have to believe that Cohen would make a $130,000 payment to shut up a porn star without telling Trump to write what you wrote.

.And you want Mueller fired to protect your little snowflake president, who can't take investigations.

Fact is, if you are like most Trumpers, you don't care if he broke the law, that's what this gets down to. YOu're fine with a dictator bc he's your dictator, and therefore you don't care if he colluded with Russia, don't care if he broke campaign finance laws, and damn sure don't care if he obstructs justice by firing these people.

Typical - "Always Trump" doesn't matter if he's a criminal.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Rosenstein presented it to the southern district. Took it right out of Muellers hands.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

Well, thats for sure... I just have a hard time believing Trump isn't one of them.

The guy has an infamous record of being dishonest going back decades.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Annee

What poetic justice if the porn star takes him down after all is said and done.


Takes him down for what?



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: Scrubdog

After all that. It has nothing to do with Trump. Name the law he broke which makes him a criminal? Its the disappointment in Trump haters that really make me laugh.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: Scrubdog

Can't help but laugh at these types of posts.

Not a single bit of fact and full of opinion.

Typical far left viewpoint.




Care to point out exactly how a pornstar is part of a Russian/Trump campaign directive?



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

The calm before the “storm” is making the Deep State VERY desperate to bring down a duly elected president by any means necessary.

The storm has them terrified and rightly so.


Source: Mueller Raids Trump's Lawyers office (Operation Mockingbird)



Source: Calm Down - Trump is Fine



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: mkultra11

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Annee

What poetic justice if the porn star takes him down after all is said and done.


Takes him down for what?


Do you think Cohen will take the heat for illegal campaign contributions on top of not getting "paid" for the Stormy Daniels payoff? Cohen could be disbarred from what I saw on the internet (lol)... not sure if thats true or not, but I'd imagine Cohen might change his tune while under oath.

Doubt that would result in taking down a president though



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Annee

What poetic justice if the porn star takes him down after all is said and done.


Delusional as usual.
As mkultra11 said, takes him down for what?
What is the crime?



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Annee

What poetic justice if the porn star takes him down after all is said and done.


The problem with this Avenue is that it won't necessarily take him down. There was to much build up about "Russian Collusion" that anything less is going to be seen as suspected by Trumps supporters and a portion of the middle.... a sex scandal is the worst way to go because no one is going to care about a sex scandal except the opposition.

So anything less than Trump Russian collusion will come down to how many people in the middle can be swayed by a suspect investigation. I'd say not enough; it could even backfire if the middle throughs there hands up in disgust at the whole thing ... like they did in the 2016 elections that saw Trump win in the first place... despite all the sex scandals.


It would not be the sex that would being him down, it would e crimes in covering up the affair.

And, the Russian collusion matter is not off the table at all, despite what many Trump apologists here think. The line between "subject" and "target" is razor thin, and Mueller was speaking of Trump being a subject to crimes committed "while in office" - obstruction, and was NOT speaking of crimes committed PRIOR to taking office, they do believe they can indict a president for crimes committed prior to taking office. Muller did not address the investigation of crimes prior to taking office.



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