Land Expropriation Has Begun - Beginning of The End For South Africa?

a reply to: theruthlessone

African civilizations, while kool in a lot of instances, _ were hardly utopias, they made mistakes and did contrary to whatever ideal they wanted from their societies just like modern " us " in this they were simply human, let's not over romanized the past , Mansa Musa may been be popular but the mining district have little love for him to this date, his brother Abubakari had even less love from the historians, because according to them he abandoned his throne and duties to travel the western ocean on some discovery trip never to return, so the traditional African historians, condemned him, but us moderns loved him for his attempt, but keep studying and digging, there is so much to learn you'll discover more incredible stuff than you will find in fiction...

a reply to: theruthlessone

History was taught in schools to preserve the class/race systems of the time. Anything that broke the stereotypes was ignored. Today it seems history is more weaponized to produce anger and resentment and promoted to further the goals of socialism. The mass media follows the same pattern, just watch any Quentin Tarantino movie from the last 5 years. I would bet Django Unchained played to packed houses in South Africa. Today it's all about rectifying past injustices but how far back should we go?

Africa is just as diverse and full of rich history as Europe. Oral histories are however not considered "valid" even though Western textbooks are just written language. The fact they are on paper does not make them any more true.

The Arab slave trade was just as cruel as any and may have taken more than 20 million people. The lack of descendants is due to the castration of male slaves which most did not survive. A slave trade that exists even today in open markets in Libya but where is the UN? Where is the outrage? Sex slavery is alive and well and is world wide.

The rhetoric of the EFF and Malema equate land acquisition with murder of the White farmers. There is good argument that land is justice but did the current owners steal it or buy it? These farms were developed over decades of work, acquiring livestock, enriching the soil and installing irrigation, barns, fences, etc. Even if the land is taken the farmers should be paid for the equity they put in or the state will be doing the same thing they accuse the Boers of.

ANC leader throws R20M party for himself.

Ace Magashule, former Premier of the Free State Province now joining the cabinet of Cyril Ramaphosa.

Magashule will take his leave as premier with a party in Bloemfontein costing the taxpayer R20 MILLION!!!

southafricatoday.net...

Does anyone wonder why they can't balance a budget?

Even if the land is taken the farmers should be paid for the equity they put in or the state will be doing the same thing they accuse the Boers of.

But they won't, so this is going to get bloody.

The coastal Cape town of Hermanus two days ago.

In an attempted land grab (and an actual dispute seemingly between different factions of land grabbers, by the sounds of it locals on long-time plot and housing lists, and newcomers from other tribal areas where they have always had land), a satellite police station, a community library and several Somalian shops (black-on-black xenophobia) were destroyed.

ewn.co.za...

Oh no, but they're gonna do this all by the book, and it won't hurt our economy or our food production.
Yeah, we can see the way it's going now already.
And platitudes and caveats to qualify a bad idea are not simply going to put rampant, unopposed revisionist history and blatant, daily anti-white propaganda back into the bag.

And mark my words, this has little to do with restoring land rights to local tribes, as it was in the 19th century.

This is about Marxist collectivism - just as Stalin destroyed the Kulaks, or Pol Pot drove the Cambodian population onto the land.
The leaders may be black (with some usual leftist white apologists), but their outfits, their flags and entire performance is Marxist.
Yes, the same kind of Marxism that has lead to the starvation of countless millions in the 20th century.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

These guys need to take more than one pgs of Kagme's book, although he is a "benevolent" dictator, he has done a helluva job with zero natural resources in a land locked nation within 20yrs after that awful genocide in Rwanda, than S.A with all it's built in resources and infrastructure, they will in fact become a middle income nation in about 2 yrs, up from being one of the poorest nation in Africa, they are positioning them self to be the service and information hub for all of East Africa, and they are on track, truth be told the current govt is being unimaginative as well as being corrupt.

New land grab in Marlboro/Johannesaburg
EFF leaders promising land.
How nice.

a reply to: Plotus

Yep.

2nd line.

bally

a reply to: Gazrok

Yep

2nd line.

bally

From all over the world, people are asking me, brother why are you not going?

The writing is on the wall.

It's not so easy.

a reply to: halfoldman

It's your country. You born there it's in you

I don't think globally Leftists actually have a clue how pissed off people are with them.

At thy call we shall not falter ...

Ideologically like day and night, but Winnie Mandela passed away last night.

One can respect people, even if the ideology is not yours.

I feel very sad.

Sorry to hear of the passing of Winnie Mandela.

Best wishes, and deepest regrets to her family.

Hate to say it, but probably a good thing she won't have to witness what is going to happen with her country.

It's going to get very, very ugly.

And like Zimbabwe, the world will turn a blind eye on it.

originally posted by: Gazrok
Hate to say it, but probably a good thing she won't have to witness what is going to happen with her country.

It's going to get very, very ugly.

And like Zimbabwe, the world will turn a blind eye on it.

But the world didn't turned a blind eye, the west slapped Mugabe and crew with all kinda sanctions and travel restrictions, a part from Any thievery, it was sanctions that drove their economy into the dust more than anything else.

Ordinarily, any kind of genocide would be MUCH bigger news.

Media wise, they certainly turned a blind eye....and will again, for South Africa.

If you asked 20 people, right now, if they knew of any place where state-endorsed genocide was happening right now, I bet you'd be hard pressed to find 3 that would.

originally posted by: Gazrok
Ordinarily, any kind of genocide would be MUCH bigger news.

Media wise, they certainly turned a blind eye....and will again, for South Africa.

If you asked 20 people, right now, if they knew of any place where state-endorsed genocide was happening right now, I bet you'd be hard pressed to find 3 that would.

From sources I'm familiar with, there are no genocide of White ppl although, farmers bare the brunt of attacks because criminals believe that's where the easy Pickens lay, add to the fact that rural communities , farms are spread out and LEO have a slower response time, the overall crime rates is pretty high and affect all in society.

Myself, I'm hesitant to call genocide because a bunch of far right and even supremacy groups, have been flooding the net with meme like responses for a number of yrs about "white" genocide world wide, from everything from politics, culture and sexual relations.

Some politicians in S.A have gave them a boost with racist and reckless comments.

a reply to: Spider879

I don't think you have any idea of what is taking place in South Africa. The white minority are being targeted by both the media and powers much larger then themselves.

Do some research before you respond. Maybe look into the Zuma (now ex-president of ZA), Gupta or even Bell Pottinger.

I make it easy for you - here is a wiki link to Bell Pottinger the now bankrupt PR firm who exploited racial tensions in South Africa early 2016.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

They're from the UK and even have/had connections to high profile political figures.

Keep on with the same narrative but the proof is there for everyone to see.