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Should knowledge be banned. . re The Anarchists Cookbook

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posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:39 AM
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Watching the news this am on the Austin bomber and my mind started working on a quandary. Prior to todays events, different news segments had mentioned (in passing) the book, "The Anarchists Cookbook".

I remember the book, my roomate in college had one. I even remember reading it, then saying, "Meh" and forgetting it.

I remember that certain portions of the book gave recipes on how to make explosives. I considered it useless knowledge simply because I could never see a time where I would need explosives.

I remember that he picked it up at a used bookstore right off campus. It was easy to get. He may have spent a dollar.


The book was refused classification by the Office of Film and Literature Classification upon release, thus making the book banned in Australia. It was classified RC again on 31 October 2016.[16][17]

In 2007, a 17-year-old was arrested in the United Kingdom and faced charges under anti-terrorism law in the UK for possession of this book, among other things.[18] He was cleared of all charges in October 2008, after arguing that he was a prankster who just wanted to research fireworks and smoke bombs.[19]

In County Durham, UK in 2010, Ian Davison and his son were imprisoned under anti-terrorism laws for the manufacturing of ricin, and their possession of The Anarchist Cookbook, along with its availability, was noted by the authorities.[20]

In 2013, renewed calls were made in the United States to ban this book, citing links to a school shooting in Colorado, USA by Karl Pierson.[10]

In 2017, a 27-year-old was prosecuted in UK solely for the possession of the book. He was found not guilty.[21]

Despite this the book is readily available from major online retailers e.g. Amazon[22] and Barnes & Noble.[23]


en.wikipedia.org...


Interesting. . . .

You can still buy the book or even get copies online.


Will there be a cry to have the book banned after the events in Austin unfold?

The bomber may not have even heard of the book, but it has been mentioned by news organizations and as we all are aware, the news agencies operate under their own agendas.


My thoughts on the topic;

I don't think the book should be banned. Knowledge, no matter how "unnecessary" it may be, should be treasured and never banned.




posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:41 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy


That was like the Bible when I was a kid but better since you didn't learn how to make homemade explosives when reading Leviticus.



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Only if fifty shades of stuff gets burned too!


(Not really.)



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:45 AM
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Here's a trailer for an excellent documentary about the author of the Anarchist Cookbook and how he feels about its impact over the years.



I recommend checking out the full documentary.



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I remember the book well.
Made my first "Tennis ball bomb" from the instructions in that book.

Although stupid, It was fun messing around with the easy to make stuff when hanging out at a buds house on the weekend.
Never once did we think, hey lets go blow someone up.

No, it was about making tree trunks and pop bottles go boom on a saturday morning with the neighborhood buddies in the forest.

Do kids still play in the forest these days?

I know mine dont. We live in the middle of nowhere outside of town.
Surrounded by forest.
I would had wished i lived were we are when I was a kid...



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:49 AM
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I saw a thread on reddit earlier today with some idiot claiming to be the Austin bomber, and in one post he said that he'd read the anarchists cookbook for inspiration for making bombs.

Whether or not it was a legit account, it has been banned from reddit.



damn ats borking links

https:// web. archive. org/web/20180320170952/https:// www. reddit. com/r/AMA/comments/85tjmo/i_am_the_austin_bomber_ama/

remove spaces...
edit on 21-3-2018 by badw0lf because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

there was a guy back in the day that banned books. I can't remember who. I think he had a small narrow moustache but anyways it didn't work out well for everyone.

...jokes aside, no knowledge shouldn't be banned. People will gain the knowledge to blow things up if they want to no matter what.



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

The Internet.

Sorry, but the genie of knowledge is out of the bottle and not going back in. People could ban the ol' cook book (I remember there being 2 versions of it), even gather and burn it.....and people will still be able to download a PDF file of it from the internet.

Every single piece of information that was in that book can be found in many different places on the internet now.



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:54 AM
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Is that not linked to flag up when someone researches for its existence? I mean, Amazon?
I ain't clicking no links.



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:54 AM
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Child porn is banned and actively policed and it still happens. So no, it would not matter.

Besides, anybody that has taken a college chemistry class can figure out how to build an explosive.



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: eriktheawful


While the book itself cannot be banned because of the internet, possession of the book can lead to criminal charges in the UK.

Just positing if we'll see something similar here.



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:55 AM
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I had the book as a angst ridden teen.
mostly to tell my friends I had the book.

having that book back then was akin to I guess carrying a gun to school today. get mad rep yo.

information is harmless, but what someone does with that information may not be. today we have the internet making the anarchists cookbook look like a book on how to make brownies.

Symbolically banning a book would accomplish nothing, along with the general ideal that information should never be destroyed. I think a counter would be good though...some sort of cool way to make law legal...call it society hacks or something and fill in trendy ways on how to let kids know the laws and stuff. The reading for the real stuff is soo dry and dull.



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:56 AM
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Banning books and knowledge does no good, we will forget the mistakes of our past and repeat them. We need the good and the bad so we can tell the difference.

Plus banning books is like banning guns and bombs doesn’t stop the ones who want them from getting them, factor in the internet and it’s plethora of knowledge and you have an impossible prohibition.


a reply to: DBCowboy



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:56 AM
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originally posted by: Fermy
Is that not linked to flag up when someone researches for its existence? I mean, Amazon?
I ain't clicking no links.


That's why I only linked the wiki page on it.


edit on 21-3-2018 by DBCowboy because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: eriktheawful

Exactly. The knowledge of the Eternals is on the Net. Not that you need that. We made explosives from .22 rimfire shells back in the 70's. Worked really well. All you need is the will.... and some vicegrips.



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I have it, along with dozens of other (digital) books on how to make things go boom, snap, crackle and pop. Some are military books, some are from resistance fighter groups, some are chemical books. Never used a single recipe but if the need ever arises....


It's not a bomb but I would love to play with some thermite/thermate once in my life. 2500 Celsius sounds like fun if you need to burn holes in metal. Or anything else...

ETA Information wants to be free.
edit on 21/3/18 by LightSpeedDriver because: ETA



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 08:00 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: eriktheawful


While the book itself cannot be banned because of the internet, possession of the book can lead to criminal charges in the UK.


Even in downloaded form? Like kiddie porn?



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 08:07 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

The anarchist's cookbook leaves out a lot of important steps, mainly regarding safety and generally kids just end up blowing themselves up.

I think books such as that should be left in circulation because they help nature take it's course.

But with the internet so readily available, this all becomes a moot point unless you're advocating for censoring the internet.



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 08:11 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

People would still have the information.

Hidden thumb drives or SD cards.

The information itself can be widely found on the internet.

As stated before, even high school chem class can give one enough knowledge on how to make an explosive.

The knowledge itself would be impossible to ban.



posted on Mar, 21 2018 @ 08:12 AM
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All of the information in the book was accumulated from other books at a public library that anyone at the time could easily access.



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