US boy, 9, 'kills sister, 13, over controller'

Is it easy access to guns, parents being slack with their weapons and not securing them? Just what is the deal over there?

You don't hear about a 9 yr old fatally running his sister over, or killing her with a bat. Does a 9 year old not know what a gun does? Is it lack of education?

I don't even know how to express the emotions I get from things such as this....

A 13-year-old girl in Mississippi has died after allegedly being shot by her nine-year-old brother over a video game, police say.

They said the boy grabbed a gun on Saturday afternoon after his sister would not give up the controller.

He allegedly shot her from behind, and the bullet entered her brain.

A local sheriff announced on Sunday that the teen had died of her injuries in a Memphis hospital. It was unclear how the boy obtained the gun.

It is also unclear what consequences the nine-year-old will face.

"He's just nine," Monroe County Sheriff Cecil Cantrell told the Clarion Ledger.

www.bbc.com...

again its a head and heart problem, not a gun problem.

These people tryin so hard to push gun measures, including the gov, dont really want to fix the issue.

its like trying to cure diabetes by banning silverwear

a reply to: badw0lf

Yep the world is a sick, sick place.

But this sort of control hogging is a worldwide problem.

How ironic (tragic, but still ironic)...

9 year old gets pissed because his 13 year old sister won't let him play the latest version of Murder Slaughter Bloodbath Death Gore Porn - ver. 37.3...so he grabs a real gun and blows her brains out for real!

Nah, couldn't have been violent video games that inspired this kid to pick up a gun (which is absolutely incapable of firing by itself, btw) and murder someone, now could it??? Nawwwwww!

THEN...BBC picks it up and runs with the story. Nary a mention of the whole violent video game piece.

Guns are NOT the problem, the problem IS the person who pulls the trigger!

How long is it going to take for people to get this?????????

a reply to: SailorJerry

All it took was for the parents to have the gun secured. Why was it so easily accessible to a 9 year old?

That is where I am left wondering. So much for responsible gun owners, in cases like this.

Wasn't but a few years ago someone here said they went to a party with their gun, and got drunk, and lost it.

I dunno... something is going arse about face though...

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

He couldn't have gotten the gun if it was responsibly secured, could he.

Where does the blame lay, again?

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
How ironic (tragic, but still ironic)...

9 year old gets pissed because his 13 year old sister won't let him play the latest version of Murder Slaughter Bloodbath Death Gore Porn - ver. 37.3...so he grabs a real gun and blows her brains out for real!

Nah, couldn't have been violent video games that inspired this kid to pick up a gun (which is absolutely incapable of firing by itself, btw) and murder someone, now could it??? Nawwwwww!

THEN...BBC picks it up and runs with the story. Nary a mention of the whole violent video game piece.

Guns are NOT the problem, the problem IS the person who pulls the trigger!

How long is it going to take for people to get this?????????

OMG, I played GTA as a kid, should I be concerned that I may become a killer and shoot one of my sisters?

Oh wait, guns are not easy to get in my country.

a reply to: badw0lf

When I was a kid there were firearms all over our house...UNSECURED. I never felt the need to use a firearm to end someone's life...NEVER! No matter how bad things got, no matter what kind of a fight I got into, I never considered using a firearm to shoot someone!

Where does the blame lay again???

a reply to: badw0lf

Well first of all it's kind of the parents fault if they got a gun just laying around for their kids to grab.
Second and it may seem at first unrelated but in Germany there's an increase in knife attacks, without official studies yet but it's estimated about 300% during the last two years, all under age.

My personal guess is that it is a mixture of a plethora of reasons, but at this age the parents are responsible.
In one family you got all hooked on GTA, watching horror movies and whatnot and the kids are friendly well mannered and will never face any issues.
In another you got strict rules and discipline, yet the little ones turn into monsters.
Why? Because the key is children are complete personalities, but need role models on how to handle stress, social situations, reality in general.
We are so focused on "doing a good job", working ourselves down a check list which doesn't leave room for the most important bit: time to build a connection.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
(which is absolutely incapable of firing by itself, btw) ???

And why are you bringing up a superfluous argument, when I never once said guns were the problem? I said that it is anything but the gun, it's the ease of access to it, that a 9 year old can just go get one in a hissy fit, or an educational one, where kids think there is no dire consequences to shooting their sister in the back of the head over a game.

And I also dispute your argument that it's the game culture.

For all you know they were playing minecraft.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: badw0lf

When I was a kid there were firearms all over our house...UNSECURED. I never felt the need to use a firearm to end someone's life...NEVER! No matter how bad things got, no matter what kind of a fight I got into, I never considered using a firearm to shoot someone!

Where does the blame lay again???

Parenting. Obviously you had better parents. But to keep guns unsecured in todays element is begging for disaster.

Or am I wrong? Please tell me that over 300 million people all raised like you are good around unsecured firearms.

a reply to: badw0lf

And, my point was...it has nothing to do with guns. One could even argue it doesn't even directly have to do with violent video games either (countering my point), BUT...it all has to do with PARENTING!!!

And that is my point!

a reply to: Peeple

Completely agree it's the parents fault. But how can people be so irresponsible? Doesn't it hark back to the original idea that some people are just reckless with weapons? I feel it does.

No cases of a kid getting angry at his sister hogging the controller and violently stabbing her to death. These are two completely different scenarios.

One is the ease of access to a weapon, and a kid with poor anger managing skills finding his parents gun and using it.
The other is a premeditated crime, intent on using whatever means possible.

My point is, if the gun had been secured, he may have just thrown something and had a tantrum. Instead the weapon was easily accessible and he used it.

Two entirely different end results.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: badw0lf

And, my point was...it has nothing to do with guns. One could even argue it doesn't even directly have to do with violent video games either (countering my point), BUT...it all has to do with PARENTING!!!

And that is my point!

So he shot her in the back of the head with a stern look.

Ok.

Nothing involving a gun at all.. My bad, I must have read the article wrong.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: badw0lf

And, my point was...it has nothing to do with guns. One could even argue it doesn't even directly have to do with violent video games either (countering my point), BUT...it all has to do with PARENTING!!!

And that is my point!

It has nothing to do with guns? In what universe does this have nothing to do with a gun in the hands of a child?
Once a gun is introduced into any environment things get dangerous.

If there had been no gun in that home, there would be no dead child.

Good God, at the idiocy.

a reply to: badw0lf

It would be a lot easier to argue your point if you'd picked a story where a 9 year old "accidentally" shot his 13 year old sister with an unsecured firearm. However, in this case the 9 year old picked up the firearm with intent to do grave bodily harm, and that's just exactly what he did.

In any case, I will agree with you on one point...there is nothing irresponsible about securing firearms when there are minors in a home. It is the responsible thing to do, but really for accidental discharge incidents, not for murderers (which are another problem altogether).

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

If there had been no gun in that home, there would be no dead child.

You have absolutely ZERO basis to make this claim, none! You don't "know" what would have happened.

Good God, at the idiocy.

Right back at ya!

a reply to: JameSimon

Wow! I played GTA as a kid too, should I be concerned?

Oh wait, there has been a shotgun in my house for over 10 years and I have never harmed anyone with it.
(despite having access to a firearm)

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Agreed. I think we are kind of on the same page. It is parenting.

The parents in this case were negligent. So we are left wondering, how does it become such a thing where parents of multiple kids, leave an unsecured weapon within reach.

I don't think this 9 year old really understood the results of his actions. No one obviously taught him the dangers of firearms, when used against another person.

Some rights should bare certain responsibilities. safety being the first and foremost. In this situation, that wasn't the case.

I know people in monroe. guns are bought and sold all the time. and I don't know anyone there with any real training. Be it in use, or in security, just what is taught at the local gun shooting area.

Terrible parents have created a terrible son what a shock.
I feel sorry for that little girl.

a reply to: badw0lf