BINGO, The UK is playing deepstate games

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: TritonTaranis

Really you're using stats from 2011?

Yeah because we do a census every 10 years.....

A full 7 years ago, since then possibly hundreds of millions of financial migrants NOT refugees as the fake MSM keep lying about

Hundreds of millions......

You do know the population of the UK is about 65 Million right?

So you are saying in seven years we have had hundreds of millions of immigrants come into this country....hmmmmm.... I smell some funky BS.

If you look at the actual Statistcs then we are actually looking at numbers more in the low hundreds of thousands not hundreds of millions

Ugh, he did say possibly, who knows it could have been billions. It probably wasn’t, but it might have been.

You can’t scare people as easily with facts, than you can with tenuous hypotheticals.

a reply to: JBurns

What's more likely is a false flag. Much like Blair's false flags after 9/11/01 RE: the fake Ricin scare. Remember, UK tanks and soldiers on the streets?

The troop deployment in 2003 around Heathrow Aiport was not to do with Ricin it was because GCHQ had actionable intelligence that Al-Qa'ida were planning a immediate attack against a UK flight that might involve the use of a missile.

The Wood Green Ricin plot I think was in 2002 and as far as I know members of the terror group were found to have been guilty of plotting a attack using ricin.

a reply to: Whereismypassword


You are a bunch of socialist authoritarians.

Do you own weapons or does the state control that? Subject vs. Citizen. Socialist vs. Free Citizen.

Can you speak your mind without fear of state reprisal? Hate speech laws, political speech deterrent, gas lighting (fake ricin incident after 9/11, etc)

Surely you still have the right to keep secrets from the state. Right? Or do they have the legal ability to intrude into your personal and private information?

But surely you have the right to not self-incriminate?

Or the right to practice any religion or political ideology you choose.

Wrong. I just saw a JOURNALIST get detained for 3 days and deported from the UK because they're a conservative. They were erroneously labeled "racist" and banned from the country, after detention. Ridiculous, out of control PC culture in a soon-to-be-failed state.

Compared to the United States, what in the he## are you people doing? Sleep walking into a 1984 police state, that's what.

I say failed, because socialism is of course untenable. No socialist nation has ever survived long term in the world's history. But by all means, keep drifting further away from sovereignty, nationalism and national borders. It's worked out SO WELL for nations in the past....

a reply to: JBurns

Do you own weapons or does the state control that? Subject vs. Citizen. Socialist vs. Free Citizen.

Yes In the UK I can legally own a gun.

Nobody in the UK is a "Subject" we are all classed as citizens in the same way as it is in America and all other developed states. Being a socialist has nothing to do with being a free citizen.

Anyway all of this is entirely off topic it would be interesting to get back to the topic at hand regarding the assassination attempt on Skripal.

Putin makes Trump look small fry with his finances.
UK doesn't benefit from poisoning agents from foreign countries who once helped their cause.

Finally- Litvinenko. - Read the entire story.

a reply to: Taggart


Yes, read it.

What was their weapon of choice. Polonium. A radioactive substance.

What has been their weapon of choice, relatively well known, for some period of time now? Polonium.

So why change it up? Especially to something so traceable and obvious.

This former spy was living in peace for years before the "murder." I could see murdering him before he could spill all the state-secrets, by why after? Think critically here. Don't let this turn into another false-flag ricin scare of 9/11/01

I'm just curious, where was the outrage when Kim JongFat poisoned his own brother with VX nerve agent? Where was the war-mongering? Seems socialists all really do stick together.

And Christian free Nations must also stick together.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: smurfy

A fake dossier is a dossier produced by a failed UK political prostitute (Steele) in collusion with agents of the Russian government, at the urging and funding of Hillary Clinton. That is a fake dossier.

It is called fake, because it contains information that is unverified by easily impeached (by the author and financier's motives alone)

Need anything else defined for you? I'm here all day...

No thanks, I'll you in peace in your sett.

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: smurfy

A fake dossier is a dossier produced by a failed UK political prostitute (Steele) in collusion with agents of the Russian government, at the urging and funding of Hillary Clinton. That is a fake dossier.

It is called fake, because it contains information that is unverified by easily impeached (by the author and financier's motives alone)

Need anything else defined for you? I'm here all day...

No thanks, I'll you in peace in your sett.

Sorry, you hit some static. Must be going through a tunnel.

That's very enlightened of you.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: TritonTaranis

Really you're using stats from 2011?

Yeah because we do a census every 10 years.....

A full 7 years ago, since then possibly hundreds of millions of financial migrants NOT refugees as the fake MSM keep lying about

Hundreds of millions......

You do know the population of the UK is about 65 Million right?

So you are saying in seven years we have had hundreds of millions of immigrants come into this country....hmmmmm.... I smell some funky BS.

If you look at the actual Statistcs then we are actually looking at numbers more in the low hundreds of thousands not hundreds of millions

Right so your information isn't at all relevant and show absolutely nothing

What you need to do is provide information which show current RAPID immigration

Let's compare that to the past 20 years and look at that graph which will look like a hockey stick

Then explain why we're doing it

Then explain how it WILL cause social unrest

Like it is evidently doing NOW

You're wayyyyyy behind

originally posted by: JBurns
So why change it up? Especially to something so traceable and obvious.

Considering the Russians very nearly got away with Litvinenko's murder as it was a fluke they decided to test for radiation poisoning.

In this case, perhaps if it had gone to plan then Skripal would have died and no-one would have bothered to look for a nerve agent. He would have been just another elderly person who died.

If you do a hit-and-run then the police will search for you, so assassinating someone should at least seem like a natural death. One wonders how many ex-Russians have been killed and their death signed off as "natural causes"?

a reply to: TritonTaranis

I think we are kind of going way off topic.

the point is that so far there is zero evidence to point to a false flag event haven taken place in in Salisbury

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


Own, carry and use one in defense of self or Constitution? Also known as: RKBA

Can you shoot a use lawful justified lethal force to defend your life from a mugger on the street who is threatening you with a knife?

Can you deploy strong encryption to protect data from your government?

Do you have real free speech? Or are you locked up or deported for merely holding views the state considers "racist" or "hateful" ?

If that's what you call "freedom" you can keep it. I prefer American freedom (the real kind)

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: TritonTaranis

I think we are kind of going way off topic.

the point is that so far there is zero evidence to point to a false flag event haven taken place in in Salisbury

Just a quick correction

I never once said hundreds of millions into (country)

I said hundreds of millions have come into the western world, that includes, EU/US/Australia Canada etc

Which is true of course it is

My point is... with unlimited immigration continuing indefinitely As the EU have said, as others have said

It will change the West forever and rip it apart from the inside, it is too complex unless immigrants are a minority

They won't be

The natives will be

Tensions will be exploited as they are currently via MSM identity race baiting

It cannot work

It's social engineering setting up intensionally for failure

a reply to: JBurns

Thats all very nice but it has zero to do with the topic at hand.

Now if you want to go and write a thread about those topics feel free to do so and if it perks my interest I might have something to say about it gut right now I don't want to get drawn into a UK vs USA debate, we are two different countries that each have our own merits and weaknesses and I think its best to leave it at that and get back to discussing the attempted assassination of Skripal.

a reply to: paraphi


Agreed, and it certainly may have been the Russians behind it. I just refuse to accept the UK's "good word" and leave it at that. They've been caught lying far too many times, and their anti-Russia socialist agenda goes hand in hand with the American socialist-wannabes.

If they're responsible for it, then great. I guess document their tactics or something. Not much else that can be done, however, as any armed confrontation likely leads to nuclear disaster. To me, this seems like yet another socialist smear attack against Russia.

I could be wrong though. I wouldn't care, if not for the fact that I KNOW this will be used as some kind of false pretext. Just remember, the fearless liberal leaders will crawl back under their rocks if a true conflict ever does break out with Russia. It'll be all of us that pays the price for their arrogance and lies (as usual)

We must always think critically. And two lives aren't worth plunging the world into war. So I really have to wonder, what is the alt-left expecting to come out of this? Because it won't/can't be an actual war. So what then?

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Just a quick correction

I never once said hundreds of millions into (country)

I said hundreds of millions have come into the western world, that includes, EU/US/Australia Canada et

Thats fine, but its more of a clarification of what you said because it did read like you were claiming hundreds of millions where entering the UK however I think its best we move past that issue and try to stick to the topic at hand regarding Skripals death.

I note that you have yet to respond to my first post which was the guts of my rebuttal of your OP so that might be a good start if you want to continue having a conversation about his poisoning.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


Agreed OSOTC

It just outrages me when I see people (some of my ancestors even) being virtually enslaved by a very dishonest system. Is it so much to ask that people be given absolute unconditional freedom and then left alone by the nuisance state? That is the natural law

Our politics are getting bad here as well. So please don't think it is the Citizenry of the UK I take issue with. It is entirely your current ruling party/politician especially. I admit, I think may is nothing more than a figurehead.

But alas, you are right. It is getting way off topic and I don't want to detract from the real discussion

a reply to: JBurns


It must be terrifying to be so scared about the people around you all the time!! American fear must control almost every choice you guys make in day to day life.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


OSOTC, let me switch gears here.

Since you live in that area, you are geographically relevant to the discussion

Do you believe something could've gotten away from the Porton Down facility? Is that even remotely possible?

And, how concrete is the evidence against Russia? Are we sure this isn't a plant/false flag/Russian smear job? Again, I only want TRUTHFUL answers from this line of inquiry. If Russia is provably responsible, then so be it.

I just fail to see the point behind the large media circus. Minus ratings, any serious military planner or politician knows we can't engage in warfare with nations that have survival nuclear strike capacity.

a reply to: JBurns

Thanks for that dude!

I agree with the sorry state of our political class in the UK but as we have both agreed that is a different topic.

So to get back to the topic at hand.

For me I personally am open to the idea of this not having been a attack by the Russian state, I think its possible for example that this has been some rogue individual out for revenge against Skripal although how that individual would get their hands on Novichok I don't know. The point is that I cannot claim to know for a certainty that this was the act of the Russian state however based on what has been released publicly far I think that they are the most likely culprits.

That said I can understand why some doubt this possibility and I remain open to the possibility of there having been someone else involved its just that so far I have not seen anything that has convinced me.

Regardless I find this entire thing fascinating.