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Mueller Indictments for 13 Russian Nationals in US Election Meddling

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posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Hmmm..


The indictment also said that those charged staged political rallies inside the United States, posing as Americans and U.S. grassroots group.



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posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:21 PM
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This part is interesting:


Some Defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities.


Sounds like they're tacitly admitting nobody in the Trump campaign was knowingly colluding with Russia.



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:21 PM
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Just the tip of the rotten deplorables iceberg.



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It's pretty much nothing. The worst thing they have allegedly done is stole identities in order to open Paypal accounts. Apparently some employees took a trip through the US in 2014. In terms of election meddling, they bought some ads and posted on social media. It is probably the least effective propaganda campaign in human history.

This is what all the big fuss is about?


Use some logic. If you were Mueller, would you drop your first shot across the bow with everything of value you've got, or would you start with the low hanging fruit?


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posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: testingtesting

I wonder what Putins response will be?.


"We interfere nothing. Amerika is very bad, confuse place. Never take blame for poor public education failure. Now, excuse, I must go win another reelection by 104%."



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: RickyD

There was a Russian MP who called for them to release the Kompromat (compromising intelligence) when the US closed some compounds of the Russians last year I think.
This could get messy.



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It's pretty much nothing. The worst thing they have allegedly done is stole identities in order to open Paypal accounts. Apparently some employees took a trip through the US in 2014. In terms of election meddling, they bought some ads and posted on social media. It is probably the least effective propaganda campaign in human history.

This is what all the big fuss is about?


Use some logic. If you were Mueller, would you drop your first shot across the bow with everything of value you've got, or would you start with the low hanging fruit?


You're forgetting...they started with Flynn...and Papadoppmckfflous.
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posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:26 PM
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But we already knew they were affecting the election right? Is that not why Barack placed sanctions on them and kicked them out of an embassy?

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"Russia's cyberactivities were intended to influence the election, erode faith in US democratic institutions, sow doubt about the integrity of our electoral process, and undermine confidence in the institutions of the US government," a White House statement said. "These actions are unacceptable and will not be tolerated."


Why more?



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It's pretty much nothing. The worst thing they have allegedly done is stole identities in order to open Paypal accounts. Apparently some employees took a trip through the US in 2014. In terms of election meddling, they bought some ads and posted on social media. It is probably the least effective propaganda campaign in human history.

This is what all the big fuss is about?


Use some logic. If you were Mueller, would you drop your first shot across the bow with everything of value you've got, or would you start with the low hanging fruit?


You're forgetting Flynn,...and Papadoppmckfflous.


Huh? you mean Hip-hop-adoppalous?


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posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It's pretty much nothing. The worst thing they have allegedly done is stole identities in order to open Paypal accounts. Apparently some employees took a trip through the US in 2014. In terms of election meddling, they bought some ads and posted on social media. It is probably the least effective propaganda campaign in human history.

This is what all the big fuss is about?

Looks like Mueller is trying to justify his investigation. Are any of these people even in the US?


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posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It's pretty much nothing. The worst thing they have allegedly done is stole identities in order to open Paypal accounts. Apparently some employees took a trip through the US in 2014. In terms of election meddling, they bought some ads and posted on social media. It is probably the least effective propaganda campaign in human history.

This is what all the big fuss is about?


Use some logic. If you were Mueller, would you drop your first shot across the bow with everything of value you've got, or would you start with the low hanging fruit?


Aggravated identity theft? Conspiracy to defraud the US? Conspiracy to commit wire fraud? Do any of these indictments match up to the story we've been fed ad nauseum over the last couple years?



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan




Looks like Mueller is trying to justify his investigation. Are any of these people even in the US?


No.



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:28 PM
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Why does Cult 45 always ignore their fat elephant in the room,,,

Why did Putin work so hard to get trump elected?

K~



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Come on don't ruin the party with facts. It's quite amusing how they think this is going to have any impact at all. The letdown will hit them pretty soon.



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
This part is interesting:


Some Defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities.


Sounds like they're tacitly admitting nobody in the Trump campaign was knowingly colluding with Russia.


Sounds like Russians were actually embedded in the campaign?
"communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities"

this is getting fascinating.



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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I have a conspiracy site-themed question. When they say 'entities' are these like demons or poltergeists?


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posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Come on don't ruin the party with facts. It's quite amusing how they think this is going to have any impact at all. The letdown will hit them pretty soon.



A waste of time and money for the American people, but for those engaged in witch hunting, just another opportunity to engage in boot-licking. What a farce.



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It's pretty much nothing. The worst thing they have allegedly done is stole identities in order to open Paypal accounts. Apparently some employees took a trip through the US in 2014. In terms of election meddling, they bought some ads and posted on social media. It is probably the least effective propaganda campaign in human history.

This is what all the big fuss is about?


Use some logic. If you were Mueller, would you drop your first shot across the bow with everything of value you've got, or would you start with the low hanging fruit?


Aggravated identity theft? Conspiracy to defraud the US? Conspiracy to commit wire fraud? Do any of these indictments match up to the story we've been fed ad nauseum over the last couple years?


Yes, indeed they do. Russian influence/interference in the election fits all those criteria pretty well. Again, are you insinuating that what was just released is the 'meat and potatoes' of Mueller's investigation?


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posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Do they think this will distract us from knowing that Comey and Rosenstein and McCabe and others committed crimes with the FISA debacle? That's what it looks like to me.



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: testingtesting

There is only so long you can scapegoat a country like Russia for internal political gains, while doing exactly what you are accusing them of and I'm sure in some instances even worse. Eventually that's going to bite you in the ass...and its not like they don't know what we are up to. Maybe not 100% know it all but enough to fire right back and with their laws worse consequences will come down on our agents than theirs.




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