Democratic lawmaker: Women's clothing an 'invitation' to harassment

From a purely aesthetic standpoint the female figure needs to be proudly displayed. The Rubenesque form in all its glory is the cause for a hearty yaaahoooo from this old cowboy.

Marcy is an idiot!

a reply to: ketsuko

Isn't that the same way that guys use to mansplain it. lol

originally posted by: ketsuko

She did tell Politico that she never meant to suggest that women were inviting it

Well, women are inviting male attention by the way they dress.

The problem with women is that they want the attention "when they want it" and not "when they don't".

But, they dress the same way by "habit", or because they encounter different situations during the day, and want to be prepared just in case Mr. Right shows up unexpectedly somewhere in their day, and they won't have time to switch dress code to catch his eye.

Every corporation should have a dress room, where women can come in and change into "work clothes."

So, while traveling to and fro work, the woman can dress sexy, just in case she runs into "him". But, while at work, she dress's down, plain white baggy shirt, and plain grey baggy pants, just like the communists did in China.

That way, everybody at work dress' the same, unappealing, non-sexy, not showing curves nor flesh, and no make up to attract the wrong type of attention.

Most of these problems will then go away.

The reality that everyone forgets is there is a built-in response to the female form. I'm sorry to say but there is an instinctive response that overrides all intellect. This is something the modern world seems to forget. We are pre-programmed to procreate.

The only way to avoid natural instinct is for women to wear burkas. Cover everything and make her totally undesirable! That's not the world I want to live in though. I truly appreciate a beautiful woman in many ways! As sexist as that sounds, it's the way it is and I am powerless to stop it.

EDIT: having said that, I have to add that no one has the right to force themselves on someone. There's instinct but that has to be tempered with civility.

a reply to: ketsuko

that pattern will make me look wider, and no woman wants to look wider

Then why does twerking just seem to show a big wide butt.

Just curious.

P

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Annee
Women don't dress for men.

Women dress to compete with other women.

Yeesh, Annee.

I dress to make myself look less fat super skinny, like I am.

Then you have no interest in competing.

Women who dress sexy do.

Ugg boots and a floor length cardigan can be very sexy on a decent body with a great mind and personality.

Really?

Not sure I see that.

originally posted by: olaru12
From a purely aesthetic standpoint the female figure needs to be proudly displayed. The Rubenesque form in all its glory is the cause for a hearty yaaahoooo from this old cowboy.

I, as a woman, agree with you.

But, there needs to be a middle ground. And I'm not sure what that is.

"Look, but don't touch"? Maybe.

a reply to: ketsuko

Bet she is cool with Burkas? roflmao

Nothing like pretending to be a Feminist aye?

I guess she is okay with slut shaming? Maybe she should hook up with Kirsten Gillebrand and Fauxahauntas? lol

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: ketsuko

that pattern will make me look wider, and no woman wants to look wider

Then why does twerking just seem to show a big wide butt.

Just curious.

P

Cultural differences.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Annee
Women don't dress for men.

Women dress to compete with other women.

Yeesh, Annee.

I dress to make myself look less fat super skinny, like I am.

Then you have no interest in competing.

Women who dress sexy do.

Ugg boots and a floor length cardigan can be very sexy on a decent body with a great mind and personality.

Really?

Not sure I see that.

Well, then maybe you don't understand how the beauty of a woman who has a fabulous mind and personality can actually be enhanced by not wearing something revealing/tight/low-cut, etc...

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: ketsuko

that pattern will make me look wider, and no woman wants to look wider

Then why does twerking just seem to show a big wide butt.

Just curious.

P

Had to.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

It's also about how it drapes and what it hints at.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Annee
Women don't dress for men.

Women dress to compete with other women.

Yeesh, Annee.

I dress to make myself look less fat super skinny, like I am.

Then you have no interest in competing.

Women who dress sexy do.

Ugg boots and a floor length cardigan can be very sexy on a decent body with a great mind and personality.

Really?

Not sure I see that.

Well, then maybe you don't understand how the beauty of a woman who has a fabulous mind and personality can actually be enhanced by not wearing something revealing/tight/low-cut, etc...

That is actually me in my avatar. (younger, but still me)

I'm 5' 7" and weighed 120 lbs.

I'm also not dumb.

a reply to: Annee

I hope no one in the UFO forums looks. You will have just triggered some of them.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Annee

I hope no one in the UFO forums looks. You will have just triggered some of them.

LOL,

Hope it was OK to post. It's funny.

a reply to: Annee

I always wondered about that pic. You look like you are bursting with personality...even though I only see your eyes and your fun makeup and hair color and not a bit of sexy clothing.

So you get it.

How about all women wear a set of lights that blink and change color depending on their expectations. For example, when my cellphone flashes blue, I know it's time to respond. No light means no attention needed. A flashing red light usually means low battery, do not attempt to use.

LOL

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Annee

I always wondered about that pic. You look like you are bursting with personality...even though I only see your eyes and your fun makeup and hair color and not a bit of sexy clothing.

So you get it.

Just so ya know, I do think women should dress professionally at work - - in most cases.

On personal time - - let's just say "I liked to costume"

Today, at 71, I mostly wear black Lycra work out shorts, and T-shirts. Most of my T-shirts I get in the boys dept. The designs are just more fun.

I even have a Dan TDM T-shirt, with his skeleton dog Grim.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: olaru12
From a purely aesthetic standpoint the female figure needs to be proudly displayed. The Rubenesque form in all its glory is the cause for a hearty yaaahoooo from this old cowboy.

I, as a woman, agree with you.

But, there needs to be a middle ground. And I'm not sure what that is.

"Look, but don't touch"? Maybe.

I don't know what the middle ground is either...

Perhaps it's my saloon society, music biz mind talkin but it's been my experience that the details can be worked out over a few drinks.

All I’m really seeing is a lot of generalisations...

I know a lot of females who like to dress sexy, not for male attention, but to feel good about themselves.

And really, even if my anecdotal argument is the minority compared to your anecdotal argument, it could never be said a woman is “inviting harassment” just because she dresses a certain way...
That is just absolute victim blaming bullsh*t.

Harassment isn’t attention...
It is a crossing of boundaries.


It’s also arguable that anyone who would sexually harass another does not need a certain dress sense to do so.