None of you are talking about net neutrality. Why?

This matter to everyone. To ATS as a community.

To all Americans who value the liberty found on the internet.

I've already written my representatives, my governor, my state legislature, the office of the president, everyone. I will be send one letter every day to all of these people.

a reply to: Tearman
The way I feel is nothing I do can fundamentally change this mess we're in. We're born into bondage and die that way. The only thing you can do is change how you think about it. If you believe you're free then you're free. Belief is that powerful. I haven't got to that stage yet.

Seems like fear mongering to me. I’ll just agree/disagree with the ISP’s decisions with my hard earned dollars.

a reply to: Liquesence

And net neutrality should not be a partisan issue... It should be consumers vs corporate gouging.

But Americans will make it partisan because that's how we're conditioned.

Like it or not we live in a new time, one that internet is a big part of how we access and share information, for pleasure and professionally. If companies could gouge for water and electricity if they could.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Seems like fear mongering to me. I’ll just agree/disagree with the ISP’s decisions with my hard earned dollars.

Some of us would rather not have to decide what we can't access for the same amount of money.

As I wrote in the other thread:

We must do all we can to preserve Net Neutrality in order for consumers to have free, equal access to information as much as possible, without telecommunication powerhouses regulating who sees what and how much.

This will effect everyone who uses the internet. Information will be throttled and prioritized, and the equal access to information will likely and largely no longer exist.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454
Huh. And I was told by everyone here that what was passed in Feb 2015 was Net Neutrality, and all was right with the world.

And they still throttled, despite NN.

Just remember that Ajit Pai is an Obama appointee at the recommendation of Swamp Turtle Mitch McConnell.

Stop lying!

Arjit Pai, who was appointed by Mr Trump, said that the protections stopped internet companies from doing what they wanted and were an unnecessary restriction.

LINK

Then Pai was designated chairman of the FCC by President Donald Trump in January 2017 for a five-year term.[15] He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate for the additional five-year term on October 2, 2017.[6]

WIKIPEDIA

originally posted by: DanteGaland

originally posted by: Wardaddy454
Huh. And I was told by everyone here that what was passed in Feb 2015 was Net Neutrality, and all was right with the world.

And they still throttled, despite NN.

Just remember that Ajit Pai is an Obama appointee at the recommendation of Swamp Turtle Mitch McConnell.

Stop lying!

Arjit Pai, who was appointed by Mr Trump, said that the protections stopped internet companies from doing what they wanted and were an unnecessary restriction.

LINK

Then Pai was designated chairman of the FCC by President Donald Trump in January 2017 for a five-year term.[15] He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate for the additional five-year term on October 2, 2017.[6]

WIKIPEDIA

I'm not.

In 2011, Pai was then nominated for a Republican Party position on the Federal Communications Commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Minority leader Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012, and was sworn in on May 14, 2012, for a term that concluded on June 30, 2016.

en.wikipedia.org...

Still a hold over. I wouldn't be surprised if the turtle bargained with Trump to keep him on for votes in the senate.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

one that internet is a big part of how we access and share information

And it should be treated as a public utility, as it is, not a commodity.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Seems like fear mongering to me. I’ll just agree/disagree with the ISP’s decisions with my hard earned dollars.

Some of us would rather not have to decide what we can't access for the same amount of money.

Can’t make everyone happy. I didn’t like not being able to access my family doctor after ACA was passed, but was told to suck it up and just pay the higher prices. At least you get a choice.

a reply to: DanteGaland

He was on the FCC under Obama. Became Chairman under Trump.

a reply to: Tearman

Tiered packages like on Cable TV, who didn't see that coming. The only packages that are all inclusive will be the most expensive ones.

Oh, you say you want hi speed, world wide access, low ads, be able to comment?

That'll cost you.

I'm looking forward to the screen popup that says, You are unable to comment, click here to activate the $ervice.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Seems like fear mongering to me. I’ll just agree/disagree with the ISP’s decisions with my hard earned dollars.

Some of us would rather not have to decide what we can't access for the same amount of money.

Can’t make everyone happy. I didn’t like not being able to access my family doctor after ACA was passed, but was told to suck it up and just pay the higher prices. At least you get a choice.

You're argument is apples and oranges. People still have the choice whether to pay for what level of internet they want. You can get slow internet with a small cap for cheap as dirt, or if you use alot than you pay more.

A proper argument would be the electricity company charging you extra for toasters, fridge, washers, dryers ect.

originally posted by: Autorico
I live in Canada, so the FCC has no power over me, muahahahaha!

I'm curious if the backbone into websites from different areas of the world can be throttled preferentially....might be a way for the providers to milk the world...hey Canada! You want to watch those vidjayos aboot blowin sap to make maple syrup? Well looks like it's hosted on Amazon servers in California....gonna have to pay some maple leafs Twonies and beaver backs to get it at 50mbs!!!

a reply to: intrptr

Make me pay for Porn? That's UnAmerican!

a reply to: Ranger351

We have maple syrup manufacturing in Quebec. Paying Amazon or having to sit through a vid of some french person. Tough choice.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Seems like fear mongering to me. I’ll just agree/disagree with the ISP’s decisions with my hard earned dollars.

Some of us would rather not have to decide what we can't access for the same amount of money.

Can’t make everyone happy. I didn’t like not being able to access my family doctor after ACA was passed, but was told to suck it up and just pay the higher prices. At least you get a choice.

You're argument is apples and oranges. People still have the choice whether to pay for what level of internet they want. You can get slow internet with a small cap for cheap as dirt, or if you use alot than you pay more.

A proper argument would be the electricity company charging you extra for toasters, fridge, washers, dryers ect.

Ok, I guess make up my argument for me. My point is what choice do we really have? Call your congressman and see how much he cares about the little guys opinion. My bet is you never even get to speak with them. Our politicians work for corporations, not you or me or any other average citizen.

Thank you President Trump....

The head of the U.S. Federal Communications Commission unveiled plans on Tuesday to repeal landmark 2015 rules that prohibited internet service providers from impeding consumer access to web content in a move that promises to recast the digital landscape.

FCC chief Ajit Pai, a Republican appointed by President Donald Trump in January, said the commission will vote at a Dec. 14 meeting on his plan to rescind the so-called net neutrality rules championed by Democratic former President Barack Obama that treated internet service providers like public utilities.

If this happens, it's about time to figure out how to pirate internet and go around the big companies. I'd gladly pay a little more for black market internet if it meant I was giving the finger to the corporations behind this.