White House says All The Women Who Say Trump Sexually Harassed Them Are Liars

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: dragonridr

Yeah, what’s interesting having the White House make the official statement that all 16 women are lying.

Then look at Trump’s own words, his own history, and in my opinion it paints an ugly picture.

He said he can grab women by the pussy and he brags about his entitlement to walk in on young naked girls in their dressing room.

I agree highly disturbing but hes right he can claim it was nothing because they dropped the sexual harassment law suits.

Quick thought: they dropped their suits long enough for the time to run out on his ability to counter-sue them. I think some suits may come back and claim he has lost his chance to do that.

Savvy

Wait wait ... the president is suppose to be the representative of our country's morality ... we better stop electing people with money than

Evil men strive to gain money and power to do evil things

Don't like it change it but don't complain about a system that is made to put people in power who are morally bankrupt

As everyone is shocked and appalled... I'm not you voted for someone who is most likely a evil person

And next election everyone will go vote for another sicko and be surprised again that the guy they voted for was another evil sicko

www.urbandictionary.com...

So next election vote for someone who is poor and has low motivation or u know keep voteing for people who ought to be put in a porta potty and set on fire your call

White House Press Secretary, 'Just checking, which story do I no comment on and which do I snarl fake news at, Mueller about to arrest someone or the 16 ongoing rape cases?'.

a reply to: markovian

We did vote for a good man once. Jimmy Carter. The Republicans demonized everything he did because he made the oil barons angry.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Should Bill Clinton be locked up?

There are plenty of women who said he raped them.

Hillary disparaged them.

Are you non-partisan on this or a hypocrite?

Should Hillary and Bill be locked up?

I wasn't aware that the United States of America has three presidents.

But oh yeah, it's all of these "anti-Trumpers," who are partisan, lol.

And people laugh when I say ATS is pro-government. Heavily left-leaning when Obama was president.

Now it's "leave Donald alooooooone!!!1!1."

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Sarah Sanders ought to be ashamed of herself.

I wonder who abused her so badly that she cannot speak up for others, or at least refuse to comment to avoid having to slander people.

Sexual Harassment is not always bad, it was common for older people to hug when they met. Today that would be considered sexual harrassment.

It was also common to tell a woman you met that she looked good. I know, that is sexist, but it was common in the seventies, they liked to hear it. Saying a chick was a fox just doesn't seem like sexual harrassment to me.

What about dancing, I used to dance a lot when I was in my early twenties in the bars. You touched women, that was part of dancing. I know, now that would be inappropriate behavior, you need a signed disclaimer to dance with someone.

It is way better now than it was in the sixties and seventies for sexual harrassment, but when someone was bothering a girl back then, guys would step in and tell the guy to lay off most times. Sometimes that meant you wound up fighting with the guy to protect the honor of the girl, but I was a big guy and had big friends so it wasn't a problem. Most times they just backed off, being a good patron of the bars, the owner or bartender would bounce the guy out and only allow him back in if he promised to be civil.

This is the world I lived in, the rich people often had different rules, they were more into doing things that were not so civil. But just because your hand touches the butt of a girl in a crowded bar does not make you sexist, you can't walk around with your hands up in the air.

I do know in the high class society they have had different rules, bosses sometimes looked for sexual favors in areas that were bigger like cities. I heard it was like that down south too. Around here if you touched a woman inappropriately or got frisky, her father and his friends or her brothers and cousins would come looking for you, that was common practice. The sad part is now that the relatives would get arrested and the person doing the wrong got satisfaction. I think the old ways were better myself. The cops used to look the other way when the parents went after people who raped their girls.

Yeah sure, all the Trump woman are liars but the woman who accuse Weinstein, Cosby, a new member of the club, Helperin, and all the many others are telling the turth

Doesn't add up

Let's face it the voters for Trump voted for a rapist and admitted abuser

lmfao.

this is exactly why the 'media' is running with the whinestein story.
i keep seeing articles of whinestein and trump together, even tho this is whinestein's saga.

i have no love for trump, but i am objective enough to realize how manipulative the media is.

i hate the media. the media hates trump. the enemy of my enemy must be an ally.

whinestein is part of the media lol. and now they are using him to get at trump.

im truly amazed at this website, i thought we were all objective here.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Bring charges otherwise this is useless accusations.

Even if he was sexually assaulting women the dems ruined it by throwing 16 women in front of a camera and none of them having solid proof of misconduct. Oh and a month before the election.

Can we please stop smearing just because you hate trump. I don't like him either but all these horrible accusations are destroying and credibility the Dems ever had, which isn't much

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Bring charges otherwise this is useless accusations.

I'm not sure it's useless accusations. Do you think women should stay silent if they don't have proof?

I'm not convinced that the people saying we need proof for these claims, felt the same way about Hillary when they were shouting "lock her up".

Here we have a guy who bragged about abusing his power, bragged about his ability to do what he wants and grab women without consent... and then 16 women come forward and say, yep, believe him, because he did it to me... And strangely, the "lock her up" crowd is suddenly very reserved in their judgment.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Nothing else, thank goodness, works.

Trial before punishment. Guilt established by proof, before punishment.

Haven't seen any, start punishment anyway. Or so it would seem.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Why were they silent until he became president?

Should always be skeptical especially crap from the media

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: dragonridr

So bottomline all 12 women that came forward dropped their law suits for sexual harassment and there allegations never made it throughthe discovery stage.

Very few of the women who came forward attempted a law suit. In fact, the one's who did are not the ones who went public. Most of the women who came forward couldn't sue, because the "Statute of Limitations" had come and gone.

Women came forward, not because they were looking for a payday by accusing Trump, but because they wanted to testify to his character with their first hand knowledge Their timing was critical because it was during the campaign season, at a time when Trump was exposed by the Access Hollywood tape and he was denying that he actually sexually harassed women, "Just locker room talk folks!"

If they didnt go to the authorities about the incidents then sadly hes innocent. Andthere is no statuette of limitations on a civil suit only criminal.This is what the women were going to do but after the election the cases were dropped. The problem many of them had is they continued relationships with him long after they claim they were assaulted. JESSICA DRAKE for example could file criminal charges the incident happened in california. He supposedly offered the porn star 10000 dollars and use of his private jet.Many of the claims are suspicious in nature like the people magazine reporters story. She claimed she visited mara largo to do a story on the trump,In her piece, Stoynoff said that Melania left her alone with Trump while she went to change outfits and he forcefully came onto her. No husband alive would be that stupid not to mention who suddenly decides to change clothes in the middle of an interview? Another Jessica leads made the claim he grouped her in first class on a flight. Another person on the flight came forward and said she was lying.

So we had women that came forward with allegations who never pressed charges. Didnt file civil suits when they can and it appears the only reason they came forward was to damage his reputation.Myfavorite accuser though is JILL HEARTH she was a makeup artist who claims over a 3 month span he groped her at several meetings. But then later she divorces her husband and her and Trump actually date. So she didnt mind enough about the groping to sleep with him later hmmmmm. Ihave no problem calling her a lier.

So bottom line take him to court prove your case. He has every right to face his accusers. And yet allthat came out of all thosewomen coming forward was a defamation of character suit? She was upset he called her a liar and claims it damagedher career. How liar in chief could damage anyones career by calling the a liar is beyond me.

a reply to: JDmOKI

To me that part makes perfect sense. If you were one of the women maybe you choose to block it out and move on, keep Trump out of your life... and then he runs for president, suddenly you can’t block him out, a tape comes out of him bragging, then someone comes forward... and now you feel compelled to speak out, like it’s your duty to speak out.

But they’re all liars. A bunch of lying women just looking for attention. The girls in their dressing room, they probably wanted it. And the women who were touched without consent — they shouldn’t have been close enough to touch. If you’re a woman and you’re close enough to have your p###y grabbed it’s kinda your fault? Is that the defense?

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: DBCowboy

Nothing else, thank goodness, works.

Trial before punishment. Guilt established by proof, before punishment.

Haven't seen any, start punishment anyway. Or so it would seem.

I haven’t suggested he be punished. Not sure why you guys are hung up on that. Purely talking about how weird it is that Trump can brag about it, women can come forward to confirm it, and the White House can call all of them liars.

Seagull, what's your gut say... All 16 women are liars... Or Trump is lying?

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: DBCowboy

Nothing else, thank goodness, works.

Trial before punishment. Guilt established by proof, before punishment.

Haven't seen any, start punishment anyway. Or so it would seem.

I haven’t suggested he be punished. Not sure why you guys are hung up on that. Purely talking about how weird it is that Trump can brag about it, women can come forward to confirm it, and the White House can call all of them liars.

Atually thats exactly what you are doing your making a political attack and not giving him the ability to defend himself.youwant topretendits about the women its not and its obvious.Look i dont like him either buti also have standards. Im not goingto go after someone on anything that i cant prove.

a reply to: dragonridr

He's using the power of the White House to defend himself. His official defense is that the 16 women are all liars.

I'm pointing out that the guy has bragged about this stuff... women have come forward and confirmed it... and yet the White House says they're all liars. What do you think? That's the discussion.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Sarah Sanders ought to be ashamed of herself.

I wonder who abused her so badly that she cannot speak up for others, or at least refuse to comment to avoid having to slander people.

I can't help but think she probably does have a battle of conscience going on, but so far she's strangled the good side.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: dragonridr

He's using the power of the White House to defend himself. His official defense is that the 16 women are all liars.

I'm pointing out that the guy has bragged about this stuff... women have come forward and confirmed it... and yet the White House says they're all liars. What do you think? That's the discussion.

Women don't lie.

They just have a different perspective.

What a man thinks is trivial flirtation, some women take as serious harassment.

The problem is that men are naturally attracted to women.

So, their auto-response system, like reflex, is to show interest in various ways when they encounter a beautiful woman.

Women often deliberately use this to their advantage, knowing that they'll get more out of their contact with men, by dressing in a certain way, and putting on all that make-up to entice the very responses they then complain about.

In Muslim countries, they make women wear coverings to avoid this type of contact.

In the old communist China they used to dress women and men exactly the same way, plain white shirt and blue-grey pants, and make everybody call each other "comrade" instead of sexist labels.

In the West, there's was once a trend to enhance the differences between men and women, to make them even more attracted to each other. Women and men dress very differently, they act and talk differently. The west used to promote the polarization between the sexes to increase that attraction of opposites. This was good for marketing, and commerce, in various ways, since men earned the cash, and women spent it. Men had an incentive to earn more cash, to attract the women who wanted access to that cash to spend to buy all the things they wanted.

However, since the feminist movement decided that men and women have to be equal, and thus the same, to get equal pay etc..there's been this movement to destroy the differences between men and women, to reduce this attraction to the opposite sex, and eventually to eliminate sex all together. Women want to earn their own cash today. They don't want to have to have a man around, in order to be able to buy stuff.

That's the battle we're seeing now.

Sex is terrible. It causes all sorts of problems, we're told.

Yet, it's still a man's world. So, women, even those that earn their own cash, have to use their attractiveness to get the job to enable them to earn that cash.

When the girl gets to Hollywood, the director says strip, she does, because she wants to be a star and earn the big bucks, and that's her path to independence.

Now that we're killing off the essential motivation for making movies, by outing all the sex addicts in Hollywood as "perverts" , the movie industry is going to collapse.

Just look at the "content" of all the movies coming out of Hollywood, and ask your self, why are all these films so infused with sex? It's the directors, the producers, the movers and shakers in Hollywood, who's "mind" dwells on these things all the time. Hence the movies reflect the Hollywood work environment.

If I'm a director, I want to produce the films where the girl has to take off her clothes, so that when a candidate applies for the role, I can say to her "strip", let me see if you've got what it takes. If she hesitates, I'll just tell her "Sweetheart, if you can't take off your clothes in front of me, how are you going to do it in-front of all the camera men on the set? "

See? It's a natural fit for a power play. Picking and choosing films with lots of sex scenes, creates the natural environment to harass the clueless and gullible women. And make that harassment seemingly "legit".

Sex and money.

Isn't that what western life is all about?

Eventually, we all become like Muslim, and abolish all the harassment by removing the incentives and temptation before our eyes.

Except, we'll do it with science, eliminating the concept of gender altogether, re-engineering the human species to be gender neutral.