Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

originally posted by: starviego
Is there even any evidence the named suspect did any of this shooting? How do we know he wasn't delivered dead to the room, his fingerprints put on the weapons, and the real shooters extracted?

IMO there were at least two professional shooters, probably foreigners.

This all day long.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I would say that's a good match. It appears to me to be him and Marilou at an anti-Trump rally. The NASA shirt also adds credibility since he lived on the "space coast" of Florida before moving there.

Not sure - here is the best comparison from the video. Some similar facial structures but can we really be sure????

Note the dark indent on his cheek in front of his ear.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

How do you know anything is the way you think it is? You could be my dad for all you or I know.

We're going off of the available information.

originally posted by: Kapusta
Just found out an old ship mate was one of the souls lost in this attack.

Safe passage Adrian .

I am so sorry for your loss.

originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: UKTruth

Is he wearing a [SNIP] hat?

I agree I'm not sure that pic is good enough to conclude it's definitely him.

Yeah the guy at the Trump rally was wearing a pink pu**y hat and a NASA t-shirt in pink.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: wantsome
Mankind seems to be heading for a train wreck. I can't see the status quo continuing the way it is. Mankind is going to destroy itself sooner or later. Too much evil in the world.

Mankind showed it's worth and cause in the aftermath.

Same goes for WW2 but it didn't stop it from happening.

a reply to: EchoesInTime

well, the guys silencers sure didn't work too well, did they???

makes me wonder, just how many of the mass shooting actually used silencers, wouldn't surprise me if the answer would be none???

a reply to: Kapusta

Sorry to hear that.

a reply to: EchoesInTime

Yes. Here is her gem of a contribution:

I keep hearing he used Tripods. Would that not narrow down the list of guns capable of being mounted on a tripod? I feel like a bipod would be more likely what was used. Plus, it seems to me would be difficult to successfully hit targets at that angle with a tripod, plus the footprint size on a tripod would make it hard also. Not an expert here either though.

Las Vegas Casino's have the best surveillance systems in the world. We will know something is up if the tapes end up missing or "accidentally" erased
a reply to: starviego

originally posted by: Mike.Ockizard

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: MisterSpock
I find the concept of 2 shooting platforms for 1 shooter to be a bit questionable.

Hopefully we get more(and better) info as this gets pieced together.

Why would it be questionable? Obviously this was well-planned. At some point he figured out that after he shot a certain direction for long enough people would flee so he would have to fire a different direction.

Ever go on a rampage in GTA? How often do you only shoot in 1 direction?

How many directions do the windows in that room face? I'm guessing they are pretty much all in the same direction. Given the elevation and distance to his targets. Moving 12 feet to the left or right has little to no effect on field of view.

Here you can see the fields of view from these 2 windows would be quite different. They are pretty far apart, so he either rented a large suite or he rented 2 adjacent rooms that had those little doors you can go between rooms without going out in the hall. Having been to Vegas (someone correct me if I'm wrong here), the suites tend to be high up in the hotel so you get a nice view for your money, so I'd guess it's one large suite. Obviously the guy didn't have to worry about how much it cost to get that suite.

Is this the room layout? Two rooms?

Could be this one as well

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: EchoesInTime

Yes. Here is her gem of a contribution:

What a disgusting person.

The hypocrisy of her trying to call out blood on others hands.

originally posted by: Mike.Ockizard

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: MisterSpock
I find the concept of 2 shooting platforms for 1 shooter to be a bit questionable.

Hopefully we get more(and better) info as this gets pieced together.

Why would it be questionable? Obviously this was well-planned. At some point he figured out that after he shot a certain direction for long enough people would flee so he would have to fire a different direction.

Ever go on a rampage in GTA? How often do you only shoot in 1 direction?

How many directions do the windows in that room face? I'm guessing they are pretty much all in the same direction. Given the elevation and distance to his targets. Moving 12 feet to the left or right has little to no effect on field of view.

Here you can see the fields of view from these 2 windows would be quite different. They are pretty far apart, so he either rented a large suite or he rented 2 adjacent rooms that had those little doors you can go between rooms without going out in the hall. Having been to Vegas (someone correct me if I'm wrong here), the suites tend to be high up in the hotel so you get a nice view for your money, so I'd guess it's one large suite. Obviously the guy didn't have to worry about how much it cost to get that suite.

Is this the room layout? Two rooms?

Looking at that layout - it would appear that particular room would end before the second window - furthest from the edge of the building...

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Seems like there's a brand new talking point EVERY. SINGLE. WEEK. Maybe this is just the next one.

There isn't a new talking point, it's just the same ones trotted out every time something happens. Which is why Clinton is apparently tweeting about the NRA and silencers, even though this incident appears to have been carried out using firearms most Americans can't get, or using modifications that most Americans don't have.

a reply to: Kapusta

My deepest sympathies.

a reply to: Jonjonj

called covering all points / fields of fire, probably didn't know yet where the fire was coming from.
notice how all four are facing different directions.

a reply to: Grambler

*gasps*

What happened?!

originally posted by: Mike.Ockizard

originally posted by: Mike.Ockizard

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: MisterSpock
I find the concept of 2 shooting platforms for 1 shooter to be a bit questionable.

Hopefully we get more(and better) info as this gets pieced together.

Why would it be questionable? Obviously this was well-planned. At some point he figured out that after he shot a certain direction for long enough people would flee so he would have to fire a different direction.

Ever go on a rampage in GTA? How often do you only shoot in 1 direction?

How many directions do the windows in that room face? I'm guessing they are pretty much all in the same direction. Given the elevation and distance to his targets. Moving 12 feet to the left or right has little to no effect on field of view.

Here you can see the fields of view from these 2 windows would be quite different. They are pretty far apart, so he either rented a large suite or he rented 2 adjacent rooms that had those little doors you can go between rooms without going out in the hall. Having been to Vegas (someone correct me if I'm wrong here), the suites tend to be high up in the hotel so you get a nice view for your money, so I'd guess it's one large suite. Obviously the guy didn't have to worry about how much it cost to get that suite.

Is this the room layout? Two rooms?

Could be this one as well

Again - I don't think this matches the broken windows.