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5th Sept 2017 Nevada crash

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posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 04:54 AM
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The secrecy surrounding this tells me it wasn't a SU-27.

Perhaps it's something not as exotic as the Green Lady but may be a proof of concept or some air frame we haven't heard about yet.

It makes me wonder more about what kind of aircraft or the circumstances surrounding the crash where a very experienced pilot couldn't eject.




posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 08:04 AM
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a reply to: dzeleniak

Ejections can cause very serious injuries, or even kill someone. If you're not in the right position when you eject, you can quite easily break bones. Even if you're in the right position, it can cause pretty bad injuries. When the B-2 went down on Guam, both pilots ejected. One of the two spent a short time in the hospital, because of the ejection related injuries, and was back flying in a week or two. The other pilot was airlifted to Hawaii, and spent two months at the Tripler Army Medical Center due to his injuries. He spent something close to three months total in the hospital.



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 12:52 PM
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So Zaph,,,, crickets, or what are you hearing,, or?



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: SonofaSkunk

I'm hearing things all over the map. It's been pretty much decided he was with the Red Hats. Other than that, talk to three different people and you get three different stories as to what he was flying.



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Well, not far from what I figured. Thanks for the reply and I'll stay tuned to this channel. May he RIP. Test pilots are heroes, no doubt about it.



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 09:38 PM
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The story becomes more bizarre.

Usually I don't want to link to Tyler Rogoway, but linking to Russian propaganda is worse.

Report Claims Famed Russian Test Pilot Warned Schultz Before Fatal Crash Near Area 51

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Individual loops are the loops, performed by each of the 4 aircrafts separately..

In Russia it is called the loop of Nesterov. Pyotr Nesterov is a famous Russian pilot who is considered to be the founder of aerobatics. It was Nesterov who performed the so-called “dead loop” for the first time; in fact this extremely difficult maneuver is more often referred to as “Nesterov’s loop.”

russ-pilot.ru...



Nesterov believed an aircraft could fly a loop, a feat not previously performed. Despite the doubts of his peers, Nesterov proved his theory on 9 September 1913 (27 August by the calendar then used in Russia) and became the first pilot to fly a loop.

en.wikipedia.org...


In other worse, Russian test pilot telling Eric Schultz not to loop a Su-27. I think the story is BS, and that's without discussing the unusualness of an apparent Red Hats commander talking to the Russian version of Chuck Yeager.
edit on 16/9/17 by C0bzz because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

I know injuries can and do happen some times. It just made me wonder about it. It's sad that an experienced pilot lost his life doing something he loved to do.



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: C0bzz
Ummm looping is pretty standard in many planes..As long as you have enough altitude and speed to recover..The Hunter crash at Shoreham was a loop that started too low with not enough speed to recover safely.



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: Blackfinger

The Nesterov Loop was performed with the engine either off or at very low power during the dive portions of the maneuver. He went into a dive and cut the engine, used full power as he pulled up, then cut the engine as he came over the top, and proceeded to spiral down to land.

If it was being performed in the same way, then power could be lost, and possibly not regained. If it was an exploit flight, he might have stayed with it too long trying to save it.







 
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