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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: Metallicus
You don't have to feel bad about them in regards to their possibility of deportation. But I would think you may have some sympathy if say 100 illegals were lined up on a wall and executed just for being illegal. I am pretty sure your still human and would feel bad for them from a human perspective if they were victimized.
But you don't have to feel bad about seeing them deported, I don't either.
Those friggin Irish should have planted something more hardy than goddamn potatoes back home before they infested the United States.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Deny Arrogance
Have you offered ypur home to these illegal aliens?
How many kids have you adopted? How many homeless vets do you have living in your home? Take any refugees from Texas in yet? Yadda yadda yadda...
Have you personally offered your job, your life savings and your children's future?
That makes absolutely no sense. There are nearly 4 million children born in the US every year. Are you concerned about them taking your job or "your children's future" (whatever that means)? These young people have ages spanning a range 10-15 years or more. So you're talking about something on the order of a 1% population increase above base.
A statistically insignificant bump.
And how do you think capitalist economies are supposed to work? Serious question. Do more people = less jobs? Doesn't more people = more demand for goods & services = more demand for labor to produce those goods and provide those services? That's kinda how the whole thing is supposed to scale, right?
The great irony of the illegal Mexican immigration issue is something that is almost always overlooked by those who disparage Mexico. We acquired half of Mexico by 1848 primarily because of the illegal immigration of citizens of the United States into the Mexican state of Texas in the 1820s and early 1830s.
When Mexico gained its independence from Spain in 1821, Texas was only thinly settled by Spanish-speaking Tejanos. When American impresarios petitioned Mexico to allow some American families to settle in Texas, they were granted permission on the condition that they become Mexican citizens, embrace the Catholic faith, and obey Mexican laws. However, as these legal Americans arrived to take advantage of free land, thousands of illegal Americans also crossed the border.
It wasn’t long before the “illegals” outnumbered the original Tejano population. Moreover, as Mexican law prohibited slavery, the newcomers came up with creative language to describe their human property as other than property. Officials in Mexico were aware of the problem but there was never a sufficient Mexican military presence in Texas to stem the flow of illegals or to enforce the law against slavery.
Exacerbating the challenge was the fact that the Mexican Constitution of 1824 assigned to the national government insufficient powers of purse and sword. In response to a law in 1830 prohibiting further American immigration to Texas and President Santa Anna’s campaign to replace the federal system with a more centralized authority, Texans rebelled in 1836 and declared the Lone Star Republic. The rebels created a constitution that legalized slavery and elected a provisional president who opposed the right of Tejanos to vote.
Some 78 percent of the volunteers flooding into Texas to fight Mexico in 1836 arrived illegally (after 1830). Heroes of the Alamo like Davy Crockett and William Travis were illegal aliens, as was Sam Houston, whose army defeated Santa Anna at San Jacinto. A decade later it was our annexation of Texas, a disputed border, and Mexican refusal to sell us California that prompted the Mexican War by which we acquired the northern half of Mexico.
The story of conflicting loyalties and cultural divide is at the heart of how actress Eva Longoria describes her family history. She explains that her ancestors arrived in Texas in 1603, some 173 years before the United States existed and 243 years before the Mexican War. “We didn’t cross the border,” Longoria reminds us. “The border crossed us.”
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Black_Fox
That's not true. DACA recipients all work or go to school. That's what DACA is, a permit to work or go to school. DACA recipients are not allowed to take government aide.