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originally posted by: AkontaDarkpaw
This isn't anything new. Native Americans from what i have heard, included this as part of their culture.
The identity of their offspring wasn't set until they went through certain rites of passage.
I share what i've been personally told and have not verified this with other sources outside of my friend. It could be just his tribal identity.
originally posted by: CaptainBeno
a reply to: Abysha
Is that a response to me? I couldn't tell because you didn't address me.
All I'm saying is "Either you is or you ain't" Does not matter what you look like.
I could dress as a girl and get away with it, but I'm a dude. Does it matter, no of course not. But to have a "U" on your documentation is a bit odd. That's the point I'm trying badly to make.
originally posted by: Unity_99
No point in posting this twice. I posted something on this issue here.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
The provincial and federal governments are evil satanic entities, not sure I call them human. And you can tell by looking at her, she is a predator with sanpaku eyes, and you can read her nature.
You never confuse children. In the studies in the past, they had to shut them down as it caused suicide. But the governments pushing this know that.
originally posted by: violet
Also I regret referring to the child as "it" but I've no idea on it's sex and this parent will never provide that answer. The plan is to keep everybody in the dark, including this poor child.
originally posted by: Wolfenz
originally posted by: AkontaDarkpaw
This isn't anything new. Native Americans from what i have heard, included this as part of their culture.
The identity of their offspring wasn't set until they went through certain rites of passage.
I share what i've been personally told and have not verified this with other sources outside of my friend. It could be just his tribal identity.
LOL!!
wow
No it is when,
a child become's a MAN or a WOMAN!
in most Native American Cultures !
including Some Hispanic Traditions liken Mexican Decent is well known.
which are & have Native American in them
In North, Central and South America have it
it still has a Gender it called Boy or a Girl
in other words , getting into Puberty ( Adulthood ) into the Breeding Cycle aka Reproducing
so you had Misunderstood , what your friend was talking about
Im a Native Mohawk n Cree & Europe mix myself although , my family don't practice it
Here's about that
for the Woman
www.youtube.com...
ohh it also this right of Passage goes along other cultures and races
Coming of age
en.wikipedia.org...
but with this B.C. Card thing!!
The ONLY way I would AGREE
Is the child, is a TRUE!!!
Hermaphrodite! with both sex organs
and the being can choose what it wants too be Male or Female
thats it ! other then that it should have no choice ,
originally posted by: ParasuvO
originally posted by: AkontaDarkpaw
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw
No issue with the debate here. Just observing how people are making a molehill over this.
BTW you keep talking about the direction of our society. What exactly do you mean?
From what i can see... and admittedly my eyesight may be narrow..
I see our society moving away from most limitations.
Limitations on sexual identity, gender identity, etc.
The song by John Lennon "Imagine" comes to mind.
1984, A Brave New World, etc.
To some extent i see this as cautiously good but there's a bit of fear there also especially in relation to an Androgynous society.
This was explored a bit in a Star Trek episode (been binge watching so i'm making connections here) and i'm comfortable with the ideas presented for the most part but choice is very important to me.
The idea of forcing a specific idea onto a child bothers me when its this new.
It's like watching episodes of Doctor Who right after his regeneration when you're comfortable with the Doctor before and aren't sure what to make of it. Then you see a few Episodes and you think "cool doctor!"
I feel that as we see society shifting into these new social norms, it will become less scary and eventually we might ask ourselves why we would have wanted it any other way.
Except they are moving away from limitations only that are sanctioned by megacorps...and in every other way getting more limited..more controlled.
Real moves away from limitations are not even explored.......
OR ALLOWED.
originally posted by: ParasuvO
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: TerryDon79
If you do know about them then you should recognize your argument as a fallacy.
"What if a parent want to make species unspecified?" "How about the date and time of the birth?"
Do you realize how silly that sounds?
Make sure to let me know when that happens.
About as silly as putting no gender on a BC when it's a little boy or little girl.
Reread the OP. The parents said they are letting the child decide later so the gender will be assigned.
So no problem here.
You CANNOT specify later that is the PROBLEM.
And i bet this child will just love getting asked repeatedly by doctors wtf sex it is..or FEELS it is.
These people are de-evolving at a shocking rate.
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw
That is not true. I don't know what re-written form of Native American culture you have found but it's obviously not accurate...
originally posted by: violet
a reply to: Abysha
Yes most would, correct, except when I'm typing, I'm trying to put him / her and know I can't so it comes to mind. Them, they and their is plural as in more than one person to me. I personally never use the plural I say that person or this person. Or maybe I do and don't realize it, it's just typing isn't the same as speaking.
I'll try to remember to say they, them or their