Trump Is NOT One of Them

originally posted by: Painterz
For heaven's sake, there is no 'left' in American politics. The democrats are a party of the right, the republicans are a party of the far right.

People really need to stop throwing this 'leftist' insult around, because it's utterly absurd.

I beg to differ on the compass but agree on the intention!

Both are working for that newly defined "deep state" that I believe will not be happy until 99.9% of the planet left, after they have had their war, bows to them again.
You got my star btw and i bet others would too if you would consider the Nazi's have been proven to be in the same barrel as Musilini's and Stalin's versions of Socialist. All three worked for the same cause, or two as Evil was one of them too.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: fencesitter85
- Doesn't regret vote at all
- Makes insecure looking defensive comments about it

Rinse/repeat

I agree it sure is a freakin' shame about those Clinton supporters!! Ah but don't disparage you lovers of freedom. For when the left sends it's crybully snowflake army out and it comes for you, we will have friends ready to save our freedoms. Because the left has forgotten that taking guns away from the innocent citizens will not happen easily and someone, if not yourself, will stand up against that tyrannical future to defend the freedoms of mankind of all races, creeds and colors until this earth they depart.

Those loons not regretting voting for evil in the Democrat party will look back, if they become smart and understand the GOOD people of Earth approve of DJT because he dared to say "the emperor has no clothes". Very much like George Carlin did when he was pointing the tyrannical nutcases out in his comedy. OR if you were wrong about the R's you will realize why people said to the obvious haters of all things free that 'thou does protest too much".

The constant, seemingly endless assumption of the trumpcult is that everyone who sees what a waste of space trump is MUST be a dem, and pro Hillary.

Wrong, and wrong again.

Donald Trump is not a politician, he is just one of the billionaires in America that want less restrictions on how much destruction they can do to others.

So instead of going through politicians to get what they want, they can now use one of their own to do this.

America just cut out the middle man by electing Trump.

a reply to: Metallicus

Opposite for that, Trump may be worst for not openly opportunists and that means he is just a hustler. Do not replay for that post, that was an obvious prediction.

a reply to: Metallicus

Trump is certainly, one of them


Funny you make no mention of his 350 billion dollar Saudi deal for weapons that will help ISIS.

Billionaire cabinet…His constant lying…etc

People who support Trump are blind to what he does. They refuse to see reality

Its almost like a cult

dangerous

originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: Metallicus

Meanwhile in the EU and the rest of the world, those countries will be using public monies to further research and development into renewable energy technologies (even fusion) and leave the USA in the dust.

This kind of rhetoric is starting to sound like a broken record. It's almost a little "I want my country back" if you frame it the right way.

Why are you so scared of the US getting left behind... I mean realistically... in the grand scheme of things... when has the US ever NOT had the drop on everyone else?

Media hysterics aside... this country still kicks serious ass in a lot of ways.

a reply to: Metallicus

I have no more in common with Donald Trump that I do with George Soros, Bill Gates or Warren Buffet. Once you make it to the billionaire's club, $50,000 is pocket lint. Compare this to the working poor who trade their labor for $10 an hour or $15, if they're lucky.

What the rich have in common, and Trump is part of that elite group, is that they game the system for themselves and other people like them. If you truly believe Trump is above that, may your chains rest lightly on your shoulders.

a reply to: Willtell

Help ISIS? Sorry, that was Barry and the boys. Why do you think Benghazi happened? They were onto the fact that weapons were sold to those who should not have them under Clinton.

Why should my country give 3 billion for something that does not aid us? Trump is cutting left and right foreign aid because we need help here. In the US. That is who I care about. My fellow American. Someone in another country has a leader and if they cannot do it correctly it is not up to my tax money to bail them out.

For decades it has been driven into us that the flag is bad, patriotism is bad and we are selfish for this thinking. WHY?

Real simple. If you family had 5 members and you had enough to feed all five but you could give a share to another family to save one of them would you do it? I would not. My family comes first like my nation. If I have extra then yes but we are 20 trillion in debt and that did not come from the current POTUS.

There was a time when the US led in innovation and research. Why would the tech leaders and billionares in the country be pissed if our president wants to take care of us? Because no longer can their offshore accounts be padded with the monies of hard working Americans. Like Elon Musk...stick a plug in you dark hole and sit in the corner...

a reply to: matafuchs

Seconded.

a reply to: Metallicus

my goodness...

I'll say that Trump is at least open about his gut feelings..
And right or wrong, he is SLAMMING OPEN topics that urgently need discussion.

Agreed that departing the Paris agreement may be a short term jab in the eye, but look at the results, and more importantly lets review some change outcome history later. Large states all of the USA are pushing independently to take steps on their own. Such programs would tend to develop faster, and be more refined to the state zone conditions and needs. By taking this action, and in hindsight others, he has brought up a huge issue and MOTIVATED CHANGE. People may not agree with "his position", but they will in the end perform (support or be inactive) according to their feelings, and the will of the people. He is effecting how people feel about something, then stepping back to let things "play out". This guy must be/is one gifted chess player!

Healthcare is another good example, we knew the revamp was not right yet, but were stuck along party lines, not moving...folks are at least examining pieces for streamlining. Yes i am also watching medicare/benefits give that another month or so, ok?

I'm just hoping he doesn't go "full Zorg with a little cherry" in the process!

The biggest weapons of the Globalists are multinational trade deals, global warming hysteria, and unregulated immigration. Trump is going against "them" on all of their biggest agendas. If Trump is a globalist, he is playing the role far differently than any other globalist leader on the planet.

This is preposterous.

I don't even know where to begin lol...

a reply to: Metallicus

I lean toward agreeing with you, but I am still highly suspicious. The crooks at the top calling the shots are often 100 steps ahead of our understanding of things. I voted for Trump of course, and I do not regret it. Why?

1. TPP
2. Paris

And, the third and most important reason:

Triggering half of the world into absolute shock and terror. The tears of the fallen run deep. Watching the Clinton's fall has also been an absolute joy to watch.

a reply to: Winstonian

This wasn't supposed to be possible!

The progressives were supposed to win!

They are like the kids in the grocery store that scream and pout and get a chocolate bar for their tantrums.

Killing the TPP and getting this climate scam reigned in is great to see, but he has more to do as far as getting out of the regs that Baraq put in place. I'm confident he will continue with the blueprint, it's good for America.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Justoneman

The OP claimed Trump isn't one of them (Bush/Clinton/Obama Globalists or the real "Powers That Be"). That seems to be two different groups. Who knows how many there actually are.

He proved it to you, OK, but pulling the US out of the Paris agreement doesn't actually prove that.

You went on and on about climate change being wrong but that is also neither here nor there.

Trump is an international businessman. No doubt well connected and running in circles that the average person is not a part of. He is obviously one of "them", even if "they" are not those others.

Can you just move on since your focus is rather boring and repetitive. I have no clue what you are trying to prove here when if you actually read the OP's post he uses " I think" "Highly unlikely" "Never felt better" in his post, so please tell me where he has failed to prove proof as you have stated in a dozen posts. His post is opinionated not factual proof as you seem to demand over and over.

originally posted by: theantediluvian

#1 Countries declare their own goals.
#2 It's not legally binding and there's no mechanism for enforcement.
#3 Countries update on their progress toward their goals and set new targets at 5 year intervals.
#4 It's a framework for international discussion/cooperation to reduce carbon emissions.
#5 The GCF isn't a product of the PA, it was established in 2010.

Ok why have it in the first place...once again we would put stringent demands on us and the rest of the world does not...the 100s of billions they want generated towards this effort, where does that come from other than the US? As I said it is a farce and your 5 points show that.

You're right that we don't need it to reduce our CO2 emissions. That's not what it's about.

I didn't say we don't need to reduce CO2 I said we do not need the Paris accord to reduce CO2...

Again, not legally-binding. More about taking a stand, making a commitment and using the weight of having pledged to do the thing to compel ourselves to live up to our word.

Bullcrap, that is all it is...China will continue on their path no matter what, so what stand are they taking lol

Withdrawing is part of an agenda that seeks to pull back from efforts to reduce carbon emissions.

Not pulling back has nothing to do with that...We are constantly seeking efforts to reduce... It deals more with all this stuff America pays the vast majority...EVERY TIME...

Who estimates the 1.3 degree increase without human contribution? Where are you coming up with any of these figures? Spouting numbers without even a hint of attribution is a waste of your time and mine.

Don't reply then..hate to waste you time... I'm not here to convince you of anything, that is pointless. Research it then... The Paris accord and most of Global Warming...oops I mean Climate Change science is based on humans causing 100% of the changes. Even if the Paris Accords meets all its goals we are talking .2C change from it all.

Once gain, we do not need the Paris accord to reduce our emissions, but is CO2 really the evil here or is pollution in general? Plants might say otherwise...Go back and look again at my chart of where the true pollution in the world is at and tell me again how does any of this effect that? It doesn't..we just want to create carbon tax or whatever...it's a scam dude..end of story.

Please don't reply...lol

a reply to: Metallicus

Great post, and yes I agree.

I am for green energy like most people, however the Paris deal was not about green energy in my "opinion'.

Oh yes, it was about making money for the elite and contractors, $ Billion for them, nothing for us.

I agree, Trump is not part of the Obama's or Clinton's political agenda nor is he going to play ball with any of them.

a reply to: Informer1958

$500 million of the US $1 billion the US gave to The Green Climate Fund was illegal. It violated PL 103-236 passed in 1994, because the UNFCCC (Green Climate Fund is under UNFCCC) recognized Palestine as a member state in April 2016.

Baraq just made up his own rules as he went along. 500 million could have been used within the nation instead of just giving it away. 3 days before he left office he did this, he should be prosecuted.

Trumps next move will be to defund and get out of the UNFCCC, watch the fireworks go off when that ones announced.

a reply to: Metallicus>>>> I think Trump got a little pay back by doing this and got a bargaining chip. The NWO globalists are out to gut American wealth and industry over global warming. They've run down coal and railroad stocks and then Soros and Buffet bought them up for a fraction of what they had been worth. Likewise the Rockefellers said they'd sell off their energy stocks, then I'm sure they'd buy them back once they'd become a bargain. These raiders and pirates are all about making even more money, this global warming scam is just a game to them. So Trump screws up their plans and they can back off and leave him alone, or make a deal with him. I pray he'll make some move to abolish the Federal Reserve or audit it, but the last guy to try that was JFK.....

a reply to: Xtrozero

It is really simple. The OP claims Trump is not one of them but his feel good opinion of him isn't proof that he isn't. I'm not asking for proof I'm saying that the OP is opinion and nothing more.

Also, why ask me to move on and them ask me to tell you where he has failed to provide proof?

Odd because we all seem to agree that it is just an opinion piece and so what's wrong with pointing that out?