The False Flag that is the Manchester Bombing

a reply to: JinMI

I'd call those arrests mass roundups to silence the truth, not reveal it. If we consider for a moment that it was a false flag and all, anyone knowing the perp will be 'processed'.

My request was more along the lines of that leaked pic of that tube looking 'detonator' device. It is the only actual forensics evidence in the Public eye, it is key to help discovering (from our limited perspective) what and who was behind the attack.

The "bomb makers path" is the most important trail, the image of that 'detonator' is the most important evidence we happen to have, arrests and all the MSM and Social media banter are just opinions and deflection, imo to aid in the cover up.

Thats why they are so upset about the leaked images of the actual bomb components. Two guesses where that leads...

a reply to: intrptr

I know where you're going with this and I approve.

However, I do not have any evidence as of yet to back up those suppositions.

I made note of an eyewitness account in the OP. There was no mention of a blue bag. That part seems like the red herring.

Here's a couple of facts that have not been mentioned.

1. Salman Abadi flew from Turkey to Germany four days prior to the event.

2. His name had been on international watch list, it was removed prior to the event.

This thing really stinks.

Buck

a reply to: JinMI

Another look and an article attached, too bad its The Sun, but anyway...

image of sophisticated detonator...

Somewhere theres a site where people are discussing what that is... thanks for your reply.

a reply to: intrptr

Heh, I was preparing to link you that same article.

I'm digging in my free time. Good luck.

a reply to: flatbush71

I linked this a few pages back.
Source

Another report that I can not seem to find stated that there was never a record of him leaving Dusseldorf.

a reply to: JinMI

Not by air, also D. is a known C&C city.

Buck

a reply to: flatbush71

Correct. From this link, the train takes 16 or so hours.

C&C?

originally posted by: flatbush71
Here's a couple of facts that have not been mentioned.

1. Salman Abadi flew from Turkey to Germany four days prior to the event.

2. His name had been on international watch list, it was removed prior to the event.

This thing really stinks.

Buck

He was never on an international list, only domestic (class 4 - i.e 'may be person of interest but unlikely on information thus far, more evidence needed to be certain) - which is the lowest rung on domestic terror watch lists. As for Turkey, it was a stop over point when flying from Libya and he never left the airports.

As for the thread, the only 'evidence' seems to be speculation and rumour, why would intel or the government kill kids in a false flag event to make themselves look so incompetent?

a reply to: bastion

My sources say he was on a list.
At this time we trying to determine who and from what location , his name was removed from the data bases.

C&C means Command and Control.

He was meeting with associates of Anis Amri in D.

Buck

originally posted by: flatbush71
a reply to: bastion

My sources say he was on a list.
At this time we trying to determine who and from what location , his name was removed from the data bases.

C&C means Command and Control.

He was meeting with associates of Anis Amri in D.

Buck

That wouldn't make any sense unless he was put on an international list and this was witheld from the UK, if your source is in the US then it's possible they may have seen UK domestic intel that mentioned his name but there was no intel gathered that could have warranted placement on an international list (there's only one MI5 officer for every five people in the same category he was and it takes 30+ to monitor one person of interest). It simply wasn't done.

Seeing as he never left the airport it would be a pretty major OPSEC failure if he invited another terrorist cell to come meet him in such a heaavily monitored and screened location with intel on site. While he may have had links to them prior, can't see either risking comprimising the attack by meeting up in a location monitored extensively by authorities.

a reply to: bastion

why would intel or the government kill kids in a false flag event to make themselves look so incompetent?

There is not a single night when I go to bed that I don't ask myself that very question.
After being involved in a major effort in providing intel pre 9/11 that fell upon deaf ears, I still can't answer.
But what I can tell you, is actionable intel is totally ignored all the time.

On a side note, last year, a sporting event was taking place in Europe.
There was a credible threat uncovered.
The host country refused to act on that intel.
Therefore the country that obtained the intel sent in a team of specialists and neutralized the threat.
The host country was given credit for breaking up a terrorist operation.
The event made little to no media coverage.
That's a text book OP.

Buck

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
Then why bring up aliens Russians and holograms, unless you meant something else? LOL

Satirising conspiracy theorists and around how the conspiracy grows. It's already happening with some people questioning whether the Manchester atrocity actually really happened. Suggesting it was a false flag with very little evidence is just the start. If your read what I wrote rather than selectively clipping a tiny part, it will become evident.

originally posted by: intrptr
Has anyone addressed the actual forensics shown in the 'leaked' image of what is thought to be a 'detonator'? What that image of a tube shaped object is is very pertinent to the investigation , at least the on scene investigators thought so...

The images are just that, at the moment at least. Lot's of armchair "experts" will speculate, but the real work will be done by the forensic professionals. All evidence helps paint the picture, but this type of evidence may allow the investigators to trace the source, for example.

Bomb forensics is an amazing science. IRA terrorists were incriminated because of fingerprints on bombs, for example and bomb makers can be identified by how bombs are wired and packed.

Fingerprints on bomb
Bomb making MO

a reply to: paraphi

I appreciate your contribution to this thread.

Those links provide some good information and I will consider them.

I would like to again mention that no where in this thread has there been a denial of events nor the premise for a staged event. I hope you can be ok with the fact that not everyone sees eye to eye on supposed FF events.

Some one might find it interesting what the chatter from the East says happened in Manchester .


Pentagon was behind the bomb .

UK and & Queen was the target .

You are not safe anywhere was the message .

Pentagon has a kill list of 240 names who work for Rothschilds.

Guns are out and Pentagon wants Rothschilds finished .


2p

I am a newbie here, a Brit living in the US with friends in Manchester so was following the event closely... I came across a comment from a witness, Jenny Brewster, I thought was a little strange so I took a screen shot.

"We were exiting the building when it happened. We'd headed towards the main doors as Ariana was performing the last song because we wanted to beat the crowds, but - as we made our way there- a wall of security men blocked it and told us to go the other way. Seconds later they shouted "RUN!" and the explosion happened right behind them. Hundreds of people were running and screaming. Those men saved our lives"

Why was a wall of security men blocking an exit? Why were they sent the other way? They shouted RUN before the explosion happened so security saw him BEFORE he detonated but were far enough away to not be caught up in the explosion or injured/killed? How were other people in the foyer if the exist was blocked? Strange statement..........

a reply to: violetsareblue

Well that would depend upon which exit they were trying to use. Do you happen to have that screenshot, possibly with a timestamp?

originally posted by: violetsareblue
I am a newbie here, a Brit living in the US with friends in Manchester so was following the event closely... I came across a comment from a witness, Jenny Brewster, I thought was a little strange so I took a screen shot.

"We were exiting the building when it happened. We'd headed towards the main doors as Ariana was performing the last song because we wanted to beat the crowds, but - as we made our way there- a wall of security men blocked it and told us to go the other way. Seconds later they shouted "RUN!" and the explosion happened right behind them. Hundreds of people were running and screaming. Those men saved our lives"

Why was a wall of security men blocking an exit? Why were they sent the other way? They shouted RUN before the explosion happened so security saw him BEFORE he detonated but were far enough away to not be caught up in the explosion or injured/killed? How were other people in the foyer if the exist was blocked? Strange statement..........

They could have been " Wagging the Dog " .

a reply to: JinMI

It doesnt have a time stamp .... sorry I am new and don't know how to upload...

a reply to: violetsareblue

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