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Sorry, but I literally am an Environmental Scientist and do truly believe in preserving the land and water for the future. My most important goal here is to put pollution into proper perspective.
And you are a rocket scientist or Chemist or Physicist?
The real meaning of 450-550 ppm CO2 targets
There is little evidence the IPCC reports have taken the full implications of 450 -- 550 ppm targets for the terrestrial environment and survival of civilization into account, writes Andrew Glikson.
An overview from the Royal Society and the US National Academy of Sciences
If fossil-fuel emissions continue unabated, in less than 300 years pCO2 will reach about 1,800 p.p.m.v., a level not present on Earth for roughly 50 million years.
Respond to what? You linked two articles with not even any comments as to their contents. I read the articles, i quoted one of the papers pointing out it was looking down the road to the year 2400.
I did read them and hoped you would put aside your "convictions" read the articles and then respond.
You have me mistaken for someone else.
But I guess despite you working in the Weather Service it more important to stereotype Scientists.
Without even taking the time to review the data in a debate forum titled Science & Technology.
Clearly you have never read this and if you had well that would be different.
Information is just that and anyone who would label information without reviewing it?
These are the ones who others need to be alarmed about.
One cannot blame a machine. Because one does not know how to build it from scratch and calibrate it to the proper specifications for exacting results.
What is being used are machines that test the air in the ice core samples, in example.
We use the same technology on Mars every day and so does the military to test air for chemical weapons and radiation etc.
So do a lot of other vacations otherwise and for a while.
With all due respect that you lack such skills is really not relevant either.
If you want to insist upon refuting the evidence do the work.
Otherwise if you want to insist the proverbial cup is have empty
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: D8Tee
originally posted by: GetHyped
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: Justoneman
Out of curiosity can you get real specific as to how to you reality is organized?
Not to your satisfaction I am certain......
Have you at least learnt the difference between weather and climate yet?
Weather models differ from climate models in that they have to work and are verified every hour of every day around the planet. If a weather model is broken, it becomes obvious immediately. By contrast, climate modelers have the advantage that they will be long since retired when their predictions don’t come to pass.
Well in my case i have always known the difference... Your implication is insulting.
I would add that my generation was taught correctly, that the Earth is affected by the Sun both in above ground weather and geological affects (considered weather also by some scientists).
The volcanism (spell checker on ATS doesn't have this word) appears to be affected by objects in the Solar system and therefore, cooling occurs.
It might very well be that the cycles we have documented from geological study is related to other bigger cycles.....
And if the Climate models that we have had failed to produce one accurate prediction, then we have a failed model, period. The facts are those presenting the data from the failed models failed to adapt a new theory. Meanwhile any scientist not agreeing to approve the failed models is being shamed by the likes of Dr. Tyson, Bill Nye who both want debate the Climate Scientists who study and present differing opinions, and the MSM. That appears to be the reality we live in.
Over the 23-year time series, it shows that GMSL has been rising at a rate of 3.3 ± 0.4 mm yr−1, but with notable inter-decadal variability. Our current best estimate of the rates during the first (1993–2002) and second (2003–2012) decades of the altimeter era are 3.5 and 2.7 mm yr−1, respectively, though important sources of uncertainty persist and raise caution regarding the record’s early years
The global mean sea level (GMSL) we estimate is an average over the oceans (limited by the satellite inclination to ± 66 degrees latitude), and it cannot be used to predict relative sea level changes along the coasts.
NOAA tide gauge coastal sea level rise data measurements encompassing the 46 year period from 1970 through 2016 do not support and in fact clearly contradict the UN IPCC AR5 WG1 conclusion regarding supposed man made contributions to increasing rates of sea level rise since the early 1970s.
originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: D8Tee
NOAA tide gauge coastal sea level rise data measurements encompassing the 46 year period from 1970 through 2016 do not support and in fact clearly contradict the UN IPCC AR5 WG1 conclusion regarding supposed man made contributions to increasing rates of sea level rise since the early 1970s.
wattsupwiththat.com...
Elevations in urban areas shown on the map may be higher than actual values due to radar reflections from the tops of buildings and other structures. This would result in flooding being more severe than shown on this map. For an interesting presentation of how sea level rise might impact important cities, see U.S. Cities We Could Lose to the Sea at Climate Central.org.