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Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House

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posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 02:54 AM
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a reply to: Kettu

The Russians hacked the DNC. How does that equate to hacked the USA? Please define USA?




posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 03:08 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: Annee

Must she be a "target"?

Maybe she's just a lying criminal. Like most pols.


Trump's more of a criminal then she is.

His just happens to be in the private sector.

Can't really compare their political history - - now can we?



And what proof do you have?

Especially when it comes to all the first hand accounts of persons and countries victimized by the Clinton's.

It's you conscience.

All the first hand accounts of women victimized by the Clinton's.

People like you preserve corrupt political mechines.



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 03:12 AM
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What exactly is Russia guilty of again? Please compare the alligations in contrast Obama's ground game in Israel to influence their presidential election? Or even Obama telling Britain may go to the back of the bus over the vote to leave the European Union?



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 04:16 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Annee

No, you made it about Hillary spinging a false narrative others were more corrupt the the Clinton's.


NO, I didn't.

I responded to your list of accusations against Hillary - - and asked for proof.

So far, all you have is speculation.

Trump on the other hand - - - has factually been admonished. Had to pay fines. Cease and desist, etc.

Even though those facts are there in regards to Trump - - you refuse to accept them - - and keep reverting back to Hillary/

So you're saying that Trump has been imperfect, took responsibility for his mistakes, made retribution and admitted to his errors.

And Clinton has done...what? Has she admitted that she contributed to American deaths in Behghazi? Has she admitted it WASN'T a YouTube video? Has she taken responsibility for the DNC corruption against Bernie Sanders or did she hire, the fired leader that was involved? Has she admitted she screwed her own election or is she still blaming Trump, the media, the Russians, WikiLeaks...ALIENS???

So...with two flawed individuals (as are we all) who is the better choice for President? We already know the answer...it is the one who takes responsibility and pays their dues, not the one who thinks her crap doesn't stink and blames everyone BUT herself.

End of story.



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 04:33 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
During this election, the left was called on the carpet numerous times for corruption. The right wasn't.


You mean like Trump's political history? Oh wait, he doesn't have one.

Did Wikileaks release emails from when he was trying to do business in Cuba during the embargo? Why NO! They didn't.

Did they release ANY incriminating emails of the Right or Trump?

Would anyone be surprised in Assange ends up in Russia?



I would since wiki just released documents about Putin's corruption. I don't think you understand wiki at all they have sections for each country with documents. You obviously are clueless about what you speak try doing some research it will help make you seem less political. Wiki is no friend of Russia and I can say if Putin could he would remove Assange. But he isn't the only country. And just because one person does something doesn't mean everyone does that's a deflection when you cant argue facts you can do better I hope.



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 04:33 AM
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originally posted by: BlueMule
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Yes, and all the while a right-wing global surge. Hm.

Relatively speaking, the Wikileaks 'bombshells' were mild. I was not impressed. I was like, that's the best you can do?

Russia wants the world to go right wing. So he hacks the left and then says "see, corruption. but the right is clean". No it isn't.

Until I get to see RNC emails & trumps returns I'm assuming they are as bad or worse than Hillary.






So you claim the right is corrupt. OK...but show your proof. Not conjecture, not "could be" but actual proof like that which was shown about the DNC. And as far as your comment about "assuming they are as bad or worse than Hillary"...you are doing so because you are bias. You are not using proof, truth or facts...just your "gut feeling".

And you know what they say about assuming...well obviously you do, just look at your avatar



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 04:35 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE



Trump doesn't take responsibility for his actions he deflects and may give a half hearted apology. Trumps general rule in life seems to be even if I'm wrong I'm right. and will argue that point until people just give up from exhaustion.



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 04:37 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
During this election, the left was called on the carpet numerous times for corruption. The right wasn't.


You mean like Trump's political history? Oh wait, he doesn't have one.

Did Wikileaks release emails from when he was trying to do business in Cuba during the embargo? Why NO! They didn't.

Did they release ANY incriminating emails of the Right or Trump?

Would anyone be surprised in Assange ends up in Russia?

No...you are correct...they DIDN'T release any such emails. But your assumption is that is because they didn't want to or decided not to. The other possibility is that THERE WEREN'T ANY! So...you can go around spreading your "fake news" and lies all you want but you don't know any information to prove it one way or the other. All you know is your blatantly obvious bias "belief".

Maybe just once...try stating something true, with proof to back up the sewage you spew without any facts. It leads to fresher breath and is good for the soul



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 04:40 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE



Trump doesn't take responsibility for his actions he deflects and may give a half hearted apology. Trumps general rule in life seems to be even if I'm wrong I'm right. and will argue that point until people just give up from exhaustion.


The facts prove you wrong. If someone pays a fine, admits to a wrong-doing, by DEFINITION they are accepting that they did something wrong. You can't find a single example of that with Clinton except that she claims should wouldn't use personal email again for business.

You're just flat wrong on this.



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 04:47 AM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE



Trump doesn't take responsibility for his actions he deflects and may give a half hearted apology. Trumps general rule in life seems to be even if I'm wrong I'm right. and will argue that point until people just give up from exhaustion.


The facts prove you wrong. If someone pays a fine, admits to a wrong-doing, by DEFINITION they are accepting that they did something wrong. You can't find a single example of that with Clinton except that she claims should wouldn't use personal email again for business.

You're just flat wrong on this.



Clinton apologized for the emails admitted it was a mistake she made. So by your logic shes good to go isn't she? Seems to me I see people arguing on here from only one point of view. One side fails to acknowledge the flaws and tries to deflect by pointing out the flaws in others. Reality Clintion lies reality Trump lies in fact everyone lies. Now the trick is to figure out what they are lying for? Is it ego, is it agenda, or is it monetary in nature . And then you have to decide once you know there or believe you do anyway if you can live with it. People around here need to flip things and start defending there choice not deflect blame to the other side.
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posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 07:51 AM
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too much arguing to read it all ; he lost his iphone? its one small step for man ..

Try this history ; when the rothschild and Kordokovsky backed (globalists) democratic party tried the russian elections they failed miserably, because Putin in his manifest wisdom had the leader of the 'social democratic party' (was it called that ?) kidnapped the day before the election ! With him disappeared , no one voted for them !
Kordokovsky the (ex) oligarch still languishes in prison for 'tax evasion' , Abramovich won't go back to russia for fear of it , he was a billionaire backer too .

It goes to show , wherever you are in the world : you're not having a sneaky control evreyone in the world by turning their own governemnt into your people conspiracy. Its not in peoples national interests , just for a start . There is bog all globalists can do about that fact, or the fact that _we know this too . Watch the europeans wake up next , LePenn understands this , and the ruskies will help and so might trump , get the EU off the europeans' backs now .



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 08:01 AM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
So you claim the right is corrupt. OK...but show your proof. Not conjecture, not "could be" but actual proof like that which was shown about the DNC. And as far as your comment about "assuming they are as bad or worse than Hillary"...you are doing so because you are bias. You are not using proof, truth or facts...just your "gut feeling".

And you know what they say about assuming...well obviously you do, just look at your avatar


There are of course plenty of corrupt republicans out there. Plenty have been caught, and many more will be. Do you want a list?

But you wouldn't know that by listening to you guys. Listening to trumpets, one might think corruption is only on the left.

Well, there are plenty of fools who fall for that. But the intelligent voter knows corruption is part of human nature and therefore is found on both sides of the isle.

Putin could release the republican emails he stole. That would prove that republicans are human too. As if anyone seriously doubts that republicans are corrupt too.

But I think he would rather hold on to those. I'm sure they make good leverage.


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posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 08:41 AM
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If its such a SECRET assessment, how come we know all about it? I have all the confidence in the world that the CIA would NEVER lie to the American people.



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 08:47 AM
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I find it a bit rich how people are skeptical of this, but readily believe that Hillary is running some satanic pedophile ring out of the back of a pizza parlor...



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 08:54 AM
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originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
If its such a SECRET assessment, how come we know all about it?


CIA leadership is mostly composed of Harvard, Yale and Princeton graduates. You can be an untermenschen and work there, but you will never rise beyond lower middle manager or some sort of technical specialist.

Hillary, being a Yalie, is right up their alley. Trump they would consider to be hoi polloi. So, I'm not particularly surprised that the Agency isn't particularly predisposed towards him.



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: Kettu



The rumor/conspiracy is that Russia has video of Trump in a "compromising" situation in a Moscow hotel as well. It's unconfirmed, but it might explain why Trump is so eager to please his Russian overlords. A tried and true Russian tactic is to use pretty women to lure men into hotel rooms fitted with hidden cameras. In fact, businessmen are warned about this tactic before going to Russia, as its popular in the corporate world.


I had to come back to this after thinking over what Trump said. He's not denying interference, just deflecting it away from Russia.

"I don't believe they interfered... it could be Russia. And it could be China. And it could be some guy in his home in New Jersey."

..... haha again the 400 pound hacker? ....

Seriously, though, Trump's reaction was how liars or someone who doesn't want something revealed speak. I am wondering though exactly what it is that they could blackmail him with. A Russian sex affair? IMO he's already immunized from sexploits, with what little has already been revealed.

If it wasn't sex or groping, it may have been something he said. Or maybe it was just the fact that he had sex with a Russian operative.

OTOH if Putin told the American people that he was going to SHOW a video of Trump having sex with a Russian, I'ld be the first to congratulate Trump as POTUS. I'ld rather gouge my eyes out than be forced to watch Trump in action! lol

BTW I'm looking for my old borscht recipe, since we may be having Borscht Cook Offs instead of Chili Cook Ofs.



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 11:18 AM
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Ok. So, say the Russians used their tech to influence the US elections in favor of Trump. How is this any different from what the CIA does in many foreign nations around the world?
a reply to: AMPTAH

Yes. If true you forgot to thank Putin and his illeged hackers. For leveling the playing field against Soros controlled media and agenda.




posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 11:18 AM
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I just dropped by to bump the thread. The one I posted about it is still going, too.

I want to say "WE TOLD YOU SO!" to the readers who are still fighting the truth.



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: Vdogg
I find it a bit rich how people are skeptical of this, but readily believe that Hillary is running some satanic pedophile ring out of the back of a pizza parlor...


Yeah. It used to be that ATS had a better caliber of members contributing, who were interested in sifting out the TRUTH and calling out the LIES.


But now they're so invested in the lies (having been duped) that any revelation of truth will be ignored. Pitiful.



posted on Dec, 11 2016 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: Doctor Smith



Ok. So, say the Russians used their tech to influence the US elections in favor of Trump. How is this any different from what the CIA does in many foreign nations around the world?
a reply to: AMPTAH

Yes. If true you forgot to thank Putin and his illeged hackers. For leveling the playing field against Soros controlled media and agenda.



Wow, 30 years of conservative talk radio has made for some interesting bedfellows




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