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The liberals with their militant SJW's horde's have been doing this very same thing for years: THE PATRIARCHY (straight whites males). The liberal SOCIAL ENGINEERS crafted the minds of an entire generation and more or less their entire base with this OPPRESSOR MODEL that triggered this entire civil war scene that's starting to run hot. Any and all looming rise of actual white supremacy is entirely on them, which is too perfect they'll get their 'pudding' they can dry hump forever, this self-fulfilling tribalist prophecy.
originally posted by: dfnj2015
I'm still not convinced Trump is not a social liberal. He may be further to the left than Hillary anyway.
originally posted by: dfnj2015
I know you are are congratulating yourselves for all your prayers and getting God to do your dirty work. And that this election was some great cosmic event of divine significance.
But the way it looks to me is it wasn't that Hillary lost. It looks like Trump won by playing you low-brows like a fiddle. He played you. Trump is a confidence man. He's a deal maker. He played all of you.
Trump won by using classic German style propaganda techniques. He blamed the "immigrants", the "Muslims", the "liberals", the "democrats", "Hillary", "the media" as the cause of all YOUR problems.
He got you all spitting mad with his twisted half-truth statements. And then you gravitated to him as your father-leader in authority by sympathetic association.
MAGA! MAGA! MAGA! The Pied Piper dances in the Whitehouse!
“Citizens! Do not believe that the Germany of misfortune and misery, the nation of corruption and usury, the land of Jewish corruption, can be saved by parties that claim to stand on a foundation of facts. Never!”
“Who is Adolf Hitler? The man from the people, for the people! The German front soldier who risked his life in 48 battles for Germany! What does Adolf Hitler want? Freedom and food for every decent working German! The gallows for profiteers, black marketeers and exploiters, regardless of religious faith or race! Why is Adolf Hitler not allowed to speak? Because he is ruthless in uncovering the rulers of the German economy, the international bank Jews and their lackeys, the Democrats, Marxists, Jesuits, and Free Masons! Because he wants to free the workers from the domination of big money! Working Germans! Demand the lifting of the illegal ban on his speaking!"
His anger is your anger. His anger is your father's anger. And you love him like he is your father. MAGA Heil! Welcome to the New Order. The Fouth Reich.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
The liberals with their militant SJW's horde's have been doing this very same thing for years: THE PATRIARCHY (straight whites males). The liberal SOCIAL ENGINEERS crafted the minds of an entire generation and more or less their entire base with this OPPRESSOR MODEL that triggered this entire civil war scene that's starting to run hot. Any and all looming rise of actual white supremacy is entirely on them, which is too perfect they'll get their 'pudding' they can dry hump forever, this self-fulfilling tribalist prophecy.
Militant SJW hordes? Lol. This is utter nonsense. Ironically enough, what's ACTUALLY happening goes back to the raping of Goldwater in a historic landslide. Meanwhile, you had George Wallace providing a template for how to appeal to Southern whites fearful of living in the post-desegregation South.
This is when the GOP under Nixon, enacted what Lee Atwater (of Black, Manafort, Stone, Kelley & Atwater) would describe in the 80's as the Southern Strategy. Knowing that running Goldwater (who had voted against the the Civil Rights Act as Senator) for President had lost them the newly solidly enfranchised black vote for generations, they decided to take a page out of the Wallace book. They pandered racial fear. They started framing everything as States Rights' issues (as Wallace had SEGREGATION). Later, under Reagan, they perfected the meme of the "Welfare Queen" which was little more than a retooling of the age old "lazy black" meme.
They've been beating this same crap into the heads of working class whites for 50 years. If you disagree, they used to accuse you of having "white guilt." Now you're a "SJW" and if you call a racist a racist, well then you're a brainwashed PC TERRORIST SJW MILITANT! These are meme-mechanisms that support and defend the progamming. Then you've got the entire network of organizations founded by John Tanton (CIS, FAIR, NumbersUSA, etc), a eugenicist white nationalists that generate voluminous anti-immgration propaganda.
Add to that weaking employment.
Here comes the the Bircher Koch brothers and the creation of the Tea Party fake movement that slipped its leash and bit the hand that fed it. Of course that mess didn't get anywhere really and none of the Tea Party candidates did anything to fix anything so now they're mostly all written off as "establishment" where an election or two ago they were "outsiders."
All those disillusioned Tea Partiers were just waiting for their messiah to come lead them to the Promised Trumpland. The fact is Donald Trump simply filled a vacuum that the right-wing made from him. The continually weak employment situation is making nationalism an easy sell like it always has throughout American history.
The fracturing of society along tribal lines is much easier when people are really anxious about the future. When there's not enough, when things aren't going well, it's time to find a scapegoat.
Now we've got the white nationalism birthed alt-right, centered on billionaire oligarch funded-Breitbart and overlapping with "the truther" movement clickbait-monetizing liars telling muppets that they're fighting globalists by DRILLING into their minds that everytime somebody protests, it's GEORGE SOROS!
George Soros being apparently GODLIKE in the enormity of his powers. A man whose foundation can make a grant of $75k to an organization and after operating funds/organizer salaries, manage to somehow *pay* tens of thousands of protesters who apparently will do anything for the $1.
Of course, one of the people who is funding this s#show the most is a WALL STREET BILLIONAIRE HEDGE FUND MANAGING GLOBALIST who has already put his tendrils in the UK and is moving into France next. Never mind the fact that he funds a psyops firm.
Unreal.
It's no coincidence that Trump was compared to Wallace. It's no coincidence that his bestie Stone was Nixonites personal emissary after he resigned (and the youngest Watergate operative), that his campaign manager was Manafort and that it was their friend and former business parter, Atwater, who came up with the SOUTHERN STRATEGY.
Keep fighting those globalists! It's not like BILLIONAIRE GLOBALIST Mercer's boy Bannon came from Goldman Sachs and has an MBA from Harvard. OH S#, yes it is! It's not like his national campaign finance chair, Steve Mnuchin was a second generation Goldman Sachs PARTNER who made his fortune in the 17 years he was at GS and then THE KICKER, went to work for GEORGE SOROS as the head of SFM Capital. Then really raked it in buying IndyMac's assets with *gasp* GEORGE SOROS and another Trump insider, Paulson who made like $4 billion in one year (2007) on credit defaul swaps.
Don't mind me. I sometimes rant.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: dfnj2015
I'm still not convinced Trump is not a social liberal. He may be further to the left than Hillary anyway.
It's late for me, so just gonna address this part.
You may be right about Trump. It's really hard to say.
I don't think he is the person many of his supporters think they voted for.
If every time somebody defines a threat to something it will then get them label SMEARED as a "Hilter" / "Nazi", then old school Nazism will be sure to rise in a reality where threats cannot be named or spoken of.
originally posted by: LockNLoad
originally posted by: dfnj2015
I know you are are congratulating yourselves for all your prayers and getting God to do your dirty work. And that this election was some great cosmic event of divine significance.
Neither here nor there, this is just blather to insult somebodies faith.
But the way it looks to me is it wasn't that Hillary lost. It looks like Trump won by playing you low-brows like a fiddle. He played you. Trump is a confidence man. He's a deal maker. He played all of you.
"Low-brows" does that include you since you voted for him? "I think Trump is brilliant. I liked his stance on NAFTA so I voted for him." So he's a confidence man, and a deal maker... So when he's working on trade agreements and treaties with foreign countries he should be able to gain their confidence and make a good deal for the US. How is that bad???
Trump won by using classic German style propaganda techniques. He blamed the "immigrants", the "Muslims", the "liberals", the "democrats", "Hillary", "the media" as the cause of all YOUR problems.
No... he talked about 'illegal' immigrants, and Muslim 'terrorist' (or more accurately radical Islamic terrorist), and guess what they are a problem for the US. Progressive liberals who current Democrats support and the media champions have and are showing themselves to be... distasteful. And Clinton is just corrupt.
He got you all spitting mad with his twisted half-truth statements. And then you gravitated to him as your father-leader in authority by sympathetic association.
Nope, he was the only viable candidate that had a chance in keeping Clinton and possibly more progressive liberal agendas out of the Presidency.
MAGA! MAGA! MAGA! The Pied Piper dances in the Whitehouse!
“Citizens! Do not believe that the Germany of misfortune and misery, the nation of corruption and usury, the land of Jewish corruption, can be saved by parties that claim to stand on a foundation of facts. Never!”
“Who is Adolf Hitler? The man from the people, for the people! The German front soldier who risked his life in 48 battles for Germany! What does Adolf Hitler want? Freedom and food for every decent working German! The gallows for profiteers, black marketeers and exploiters, regardless of religious faith or race! Why is Adolf Hitler not allowed to speak? Because he is ruthless in uncovering the rulers of the German economy, the international bank Jews and their lackeys, the Democrats, Marxists, Jesuits, and Free Masons! Because he wants to free the workers from the domination of big money! Working Germans! Demand the lifting of the illegal ban on his speaking!"
His anger is your anger. His anger is your father's anger. And you love him like he is your father. MAGA Heil! Welcome to the New Order. The Fouth Reich.
Feel better now that you've gotten that little rant off your chest, need a hug???
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
If every time somebody defines a threat to something it will then get them label SMEARED as a "Hilter" / "Nazi", then old school Nazism will be sure to rise in a reality where threats cannot be named or spoken of.
The reason for the Hitler references is obvious though.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: dfnj2015
You're in NJ too I take it? North or South? (I'm in the South)
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
If every time somebody defines a threat to something it will then get them label SMEARED as a "Hilter" / "Nazi", then old school Nazism will be sure to rise in a reality where threats cannot be named or spoken of.
The reason for the Hitler references is obvious though. When you think of populist authoritarians othering and scapegoating a minority, who do you think of? Hitler
When you think of a populist leader who is pointing the finger at everyone and saying "they're the problem!" Answer me this question an I'll leave you to it. What are your views on the following being used as objects of rhetoric:
- illegal immigrants who are rapists, drug dealers, killing Kate and drunkenly plowing into everyone. They're taking your jobs (how many years of that?), they're not assimilating, etc.
- Muslims who hate us. We don't know why. It's impossible for Christians to get into the country but they just Muslims right in. The other team wants to import probably millions of them. A lot of them will be ISIS which was created by Hillary, etc.
- black people who have fallen under the spell of the BLM terrorists (which is basically just George Soros)
- globalists (99% George Soros whose got multiple threads going about him in which people are calling for his death)
- the political establishment except people they like, wealthy people who don't give them money, Wall Streeters who aren't the Goldman Sachs veterans actually working for the campaign.
- any media who doesn't fawn over Trump.
- now it's brainwashed whites
- SJW hordes who are attacking you because they are paid to. Supported by the partially Trump-funded O'Keefe (known serial deceptive editor/hoaxer) video featuring a known Brietbart-connected operative (for which raw footage will not be released) who claimed to have organized "PAID RIOT SQUADS" (as you keep repeating).
Are you beginning to see a pattern here? Please tell me that on some level, you realize that this is blatant-in-your-face programming? And I'm not saying that Soros isn't in fact a horrible guy. I'm not saying that the DNC doesn't use identity politics. I'm not saying that the "left" isn't corrupt but you have to see how it's signficant that from the "the other side" there's rhetoric that is basically nothing but a big old list of people to blame, fear or hate?
At the VERY best, you'd have to at least recognize that at least half the problem is "the other side's" leadership and tactics. Despite all the arguing, I actually do have a respect for your contribution.
originally posted by: Riffrafter
a reply to: dfnj2015
You're an idiot.
And you have not been paying attention. Not at all.
So you and all your friends deserve exactly what you got.
It's over. Done. Finito.
You really should start paying attention.
But in the meantime, get used to it.
We give a #. And we *vote*.
Paying attention yet?
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: theantediluvian
Argh. That's a lot to try to respond to, and I expect it would fall on deaf ears, so why bother? Why bother when I've already spoken at length about essentially every item on that list. I suspect you know that, but funnily enough you've hardly ever really taken on any of my major threads. Maybe you were just too busy doing your own thing in the propaganda war known as the election.
The election is over now. And the other night I made a nice tidy sort of table of contents of my more important works: