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White nationalist movement growing much faster than Isis on Twitter

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posted on Sep, 6 2016 @ 09:15 PM
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originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
www.independent.co.uk...



The number of white nationalists and self-identified Nazi sympathisers on Twitter have multiplied more than 600 per cent in the last four years, outperforming the so-called Islamic State (Isis) in everything from follower counts to number of daily tweets, a new study found.

Researchers at George Washington University’s Programme on Extremism analysed 18 accounts belonging to major white nationalist groups and organisations – such as the American Nazi Party and the National Socialist Movement – mostly located in the US.




Hate group map Hate group map

feel free to use it no different than: Kids live safe

No words really other than hate does not cease by hate, and continually perpetuating it on impressionable ears generation after generation is concidered a crime in the various ways it manifests for good reason as it is a social disease that is taught and learned not innate or born into us.

Spoiling the beauty that is this with past burdens? Shameful and inexcusible








posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

They're White, they're not right, and quite frankly, just like the Nazis, full of #e!

Point of fact retards such as this mob give common decent Caucasians a bad name.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 06:37 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Throwing fuel on the fire is fuel no matter who's hands it is in... even though this thread is about groups we should be concerned about spreading extremism on the rise, expressing the same sort of finger pointing and line drawing is a symptom of the same disease whether one feels justified in doing it or not.

The bottom line is all people want to be happy, so pointing out the differences people already know from the hate that has been spread instead of the similarities is how all this mess keeps going... extending the other three fingers into a handshake of introduction as individuals instead of pointing will and does help solve it one person at a time.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 06:44 AM
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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

Shaking hands with racist scum is seldom to ones advantage.

You don't kowtow to people such as this mob, there is no point in attempting to educate them as to the error of there ways or pandering to there delusions.

All life matters not just there own and that's a fact the White nationalist movement are simply unwilling to get there racist heads around.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 09:07 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

It's not about agreeing with anyone on the view but opening dialog to change that view, don't even have to talk about the topic just immersion and not self seggregating as per usual.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 10:17 PM
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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

You don't make deals with the devil or open a dialogue for that matter. It's not about who's black or white, equalitys ether colour blind or it doesn't do what it says on the tin. White nationalists movement my arse, they are clearly racist and/or think they somehow entitled over others the proof being in the name of there organization.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

People are not their labels 24/7-365 that means there is a wide window of change for everyone to dispell that ignorance... like is a vegitarian or meat lover eating 24/7-365? No they are only that label when eating... same with haters only a hater when hating... if that occured continuiously there would be none left all of them would have died from stress related sicknesses already.



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 12:53 AM
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Interesting, since Hillary warned about the "alt.right" - the first thing i checked the entries for "alternative right" on this "Hate Map". Results: zero.


Anyways, my two cents to why there is a rise in white nationalism:

In the last years there have been several movements from the left.

- occupy wallstreet. fighting against white males (capitalists)
- feminism: fighting against white males (patriarchy)
- BLM: fighting against white males (aka racists)
- no borders movement: fighting against white males and their borders
- Muslim movement (both moderate and extreme): fighting against white, non muslim males
- La Raza: fighting against white males
- minority groups (american natives, immigrants, trans people,....) fighting against white males

In short: there was an increase of identity politics groups, all fighting against the white males. So is anyone surprised, when white males start their own identity politics to protect their own interests?



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 01:10 AM
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a reply to: svetlana84

is anyone suprised that white facists need a safe space for theyre sick totalitarian right wing nazi fantasies



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 01:13 AM
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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

Of course, if you went by the behaviour of progressives you would be forgiven for thinking that racism is some ominous cloud of hate floating around. Hence all the censure of thoughtcrime..



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 01:36 AM
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a reply to: lortl

"They white - get them"



Trump supporters attacked




These BLM and Anti-Trump groups act like brownshirts. Total racists.
edit on 8-9-2016 by svetlana84 because: typo



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 01:43 AM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

Likewise, if we went by the behaviour of some conservatives you'd be forgiven for thinking that white power groups have no hate. Hence all the hand-waving.

Guys tattooed with swastikas and 88s? Crickets.



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 01:44 AM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

Well, the odd thing is in the business or corporate sector even government sectors where is the discrimination of who are labeled white? It is non exisent except when perhaps disabled or some other discriminatory stigma...

It is about removing those barriers for all people... even if there was no barriers due to to skin? There still would be over disability until that too ended, gender that too until ended.

So who is losing anything when the world is trying to balance it for people? If someone doesn't take initiative and no barrier there who is to blame other than that heritage one is clinging too... those traditions that held them back?

Thats why it's called progress hanging a family heirloom of a dead albatross around your neck might seem like something to be proud of but hey it's a dead albatros hanging around your neck... and wearing it? Optional last I checked...

I know this is optional from experience... if I stayed in my families mold know what I would be as labels go? A white neo nazi leaning child molester that belongs to some splinter cult of Christainity, that I would use to hide behind being a racist child molester.

This dumb sh!t can be over come hell, I'm living proof of it... no it's not easy and yes it is a sickness and equality does need help and it requires voices, and it requires political action.

Wanna know how freeing it is to go and mix and mingle with anyone not attached to labels or groups? To not feel like this place or that place is off limits... that these people or those people are wrong or bad and this or that is right?

Wouldn't trade it for the world... people imprisioning themselves and others up in a free country. Rediculous.



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 01:49 AM
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You know whats funny in all this? You give the white nationalists the free speech and freedom they want, so they dont play the victim card, but if they get in power they take all that away from you to the last inch! Unless the Alt+Right is different, which I doubt, seems more sophisticated than the normal bonehead but thats about it..



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 01:58 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

Yes, like with liberals and Muslims. The only difference being that I've probably never even seen a real skinhead.

You might want to thank the extreme left for polarising people, many people have been so turned off by social justice warriors they embraced the far right instead. All by design by the way.

But yes, focus on the real Nazis instead of calling people that want to preserve their own culture and their own kind Nazis. This is a sentiment born not out of hate but out of love of one's own. If it is ok for Arabs and Chinese it is ok for Europeans.



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 02:40 AM
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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

People critical of cultural Marxism don't usually talk of institutional discrimination so this is just a straw man argument you've invented, one that you can easily refute. But ok, discrimination you say? It's called affirmative action, in Sweden it's called "kvotering", but it is in fact institutional discrimination.

A recent post of mine touched on the problem facing whites:



Let's make a deal. I'll admit that blacks in America have been targeted for cultural destruction by the elite in some capacity if you acknowledge this little historical fact. What say you? Everyone's a victim to these people in different ways. Just because their tactics for different groups differ doesn't mean they don't have an underlying agenda that touches everyone. I see and understand this type of reaction and where it comes from: whites are doing good and aside from white guilt, the "white people are evil" meme and politically correct attacks by progressives they aren't oppressed in any type of traditional way. The attack on white people is one of demographic and cultural subversion. We're all different colours but we all have one thing in common, we are all being preyed upon by a psychopathic cabal of elites. They are the real enemy and we should be focusing on them but if you're gonna deny this conspiracy and also deny our sovereignty while you're at it I hope you know that will mean war, the alt-right and the ascendant nationalist parties in Europe is only the beginning.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Incidentally this reply was just above another post of mine that was directed at you. One that you simply ignored.

The problem with your perspective is how naive it is, it takes everything at face value. "These guys want to do great things, they're good people..they say so themselves." As if noble motivations hasn't always been the go to excuse for anyone wanting to implement their specific agenda.



It is about removing those barriers for all people...


Everyone is already equal under the law in most Western countries, at least if you ignore affirmative action. Mission accomplished.

You guys aren't fighting for equality now, you're fighting against meritocracy and fairness, which amounts to supporting inequality. Ironic isn't it?

As for the rest of your post.. reads like incoherent babble.. you came from a family of Nazi child molesters? Sorry to hear that, maybe that's why you embraced progressivism as some sort of rebellion.. only damaged and easily impressionable people do.

It's easy to see what's going on here, you're just awfully naive.. all liberals are by default.

Look at the fruits that the tree produces instead of listening to the people trying to sell you a narrative, progressivism has been hijacked to serve the globalist agenda, even a cursory glance at what's going on would reveal this fact.

If a society want to abandon their culture and their traditions let them, but this should be a voluntary choice and not the result of top down social engineering because that is brainwashing and not a natural organic choice.



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 02:48 AM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

Look. You pulled the same trick.


Nazis? What Nazis? A lot of people are suddenly incapable of finding a word to say against them. Or never a straight answer. "Nazis? Let's talk about SJWs." Not too many folk here want to differentiate themselves from the nazis.

Do you know who I thank for polarising people? The Right. The Left. The extremists at their fringes. Black power or white power are all dangerous. Islamic State are psychos. They're dangerous people with ideals that run counter to civilised society.



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 03:03 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

No, I said focus on the real Nazis.. the almost non existent boogeyman.

The right is flaccid and impotent, they have ceded all their influence in the cultural and social sphere to leftists. You can thank social justice warriors and the silence of the left for the rise of the alternative right. I've only heard a few people calling out radicals for their intolerance and their attacks on freedom of speech.

The problem is these "radicals" are the product of the US educational system, I have trouble with calling them fringe when they're the product of the nations universities, universities that unilaterally support this type of emotional and irrational identity politics.

It's a sickness, it's brainwashing. It's that simple.



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 03:09 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: TheLaughingGod

Look. You pulled the same trick.


Nazis? What Nazis? A lot of people are suddenly incapable of finding a word to say against them. Or never a straight answer. "Nazis? Let's talk about SJWs." Not too many folk here want to differentiate themselves from the nazis.

Do you know who I thank for polarising people? The Right. The Left. The extremists at their fringes. Black power or white power are all dangerous. Islamic State are psychos. They're dangerous people with ideals that run counter to civilised society.





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Its a catch 22 on this site..say too much...get labeled a dick, say too little get labeled a dick.....

Amazing how those passionate for their cause are completely consumed by their own view point thats all they can see



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 03:10 AM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

And you're displaying cognitive dissonance because that's exactly how it is... doesn't look a lot like it now why? Because it is collapsing and this is exactly why these groups are rising stamping out the injustices from the system itself and profiling.

It will end whether anyone likes it or not the last 3 to 4 generations majoriliy don't want it and reject it... because they know it's nonsense, and that the rhetoric is just lies exageration and excuses solid propaganda to see enemies that don't really exist.

Fighting amongst ourselves is a deflection from the very institutionalized form of it that was supposed to have ended in the 60's and hasn't as of yet but by golly it's a lot better now than it was then and it can only continue... the oppression and control will end and equality as has been intended in secular ethics will rule as it was supposed too.

No one is going to get their 2nd civil war... that you can bank on. Martial law yes if it has to come to that but it doesnt to iron out all the nonsense of separatism and hate institutionalized in many states from the very state governments themselves but the people in those states dont feel that way they feel oppressed even those wanting to say it isn't institutionalized and that many in those states are trying to privatize so they can do one thing expand capitalism to feed off of human misery even more so than they do now.
edit on 8-9-2016 by BigBrotherDarkness because: sp.



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