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Topic started on 20-1-2005 @ 10:07 AM by Termite197
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I found these pictures to be amazing. They are very clear and are from a plane. Check them out here:
www.holmestead.ca...
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 10:10 AM by LadyV
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I see this subject a lot here..I am not educated on the subject of "chemtrails" whats the story with these? Is it conspiracy? A type of interest?
What the deal with them? Inquiring minds want to know...
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 10:23 AM by Termite197
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Some say it is a conspiracy. Some form of government weather control. Some say the government is poisoning us for mind control. I honestly dont know
what to believe. All I know is that the trails are forming cloud formations and effect our skies.
I have seen many days where 10-20 jets all at the same time releasing the trails in the sky and observed the trails spread out throughout the day and
eventually cover the whole sky. I live next to Fort Campbell, and sometimes I think that they cover the sky with these trails so they spread out and
hide activity on the ground from foriegn satelites.
Anybody in the world can view the ground anywhere with the satelites today. So if the government is doing things that they dont want people to see
from above, why not fill the sky with clouds? Just a thought.
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 10:25 AM by LadyV
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I see these all the time! I just thought they were from the engines and a natural release. It's not natural for them to leave them behind?
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 10:28 AM by creamsoda
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Those chemtrails are more than likely, a way to undo ozone depletion. The exaust from airplanes can be really harmfull to the ozone layer, so they
put in these chemicals to perhaps keep the jet exaust 'un'harmful to the ozone layer. Dont think they would try to cover anything up. Satellites
are smarter than that !
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 10:31 AM by LadyV
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Arent they just from the heat of the engine hitting the cooler outside air? I mean there have been these trails since the beginning of air flight
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 10:32 AM by Termite197
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It is natural in some cases. (contrails) Contrails are triggered by an increase in the relative humidity that occurs in the engine plume. This
increase in humidity, which is due to the mixture of warm exhaust gases with colder ambient air, produces a visual contrail, especially at high
altitudes. Most contrails disipate very quickly.
Not natural. (chemtrails) which is the conspiracy side. These trails stay in the sky and spread out. These trails can be seen at many different
altitudes.
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 10:34 AM by Crakeur
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some of those pics just don't look real.
Lady, if you search here there was a member who posted a complete explanation of the trails and what they really are and how they form and why they
look the way they do and dissipate the way they do. He made it fairly clear that they are nothing to be concerned with. He was either an engineer or
a pilot or both.
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 10:35 AM by Gazrok
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Wow! You mean heating water vapor in the air can turn it to steam? Amazing...!!!
You can see the same chemical "spraying" up from a pot of boiling water....
So, I'm just curious from the contrail fans...where do these passenger planes put the chemical they are supposedly spraying? From those pics, it
would have to be many many gallons. I'm pretty sure the majority of the room is taken up by passengers, luggage, and jet fuel, but hey, that's just
me....
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 10:37 AM by LadyV
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Hmmmm....a pot of boiling water is not traveling the speed of a jet...which would naturally leave it in a "trail" formation, would it not?
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 10:47 AM by Termite197
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Like I said, I dont know what to think. They very well could be purposely making clouds though, and I dont think you would need a lot of the so
called "chemical" to make clouds, maybe just a little. Could even be mixed with the fuel. Never know, but the point is, it is effecting our
skies!
I have a question though. Can the suns radiation penetrate through clouds? I mean, can you still get a sunburn on a cloudy day?  If not, maybe
this is a good thing. Covering the sky with clouds so the human race doesn't get burned.
Less skin cancer!
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 10:59 AM by Crakeur
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uv does penetrate clouds. that's why, on overcast days in the summer, they still warn you about the risk of exposure.
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 11:24 AM by Kidfinger
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Only about 5 of those pics looked like they were not photoshopped. Some of them you can still see the black outline around the planes. The contrails
are jet exhaust mixed with high level ice crystals that form a trail of steam and exhaust. Its sort of like breathing in the winter, only on a much
more powerfull scale. Ever see your breath in the cold air? Same thing. There are other types of contrails that are produced when a craft goes
supersonic, but Im not to sure on those details, so I wont elaborate. However, the way I described a contrail being produced above, pertains to
passenger jets, and commercial aircraft you see every day.
I live 2 miles from Louisville International Airport, and I see contrails every day. It really all depends on the atmospheric conditions. Thats why
some times they are 20 feet long, and other times, 20 miles long.
No conspericy here. Just ice crystals and jet engine exhaust.
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 11:46 AM by Nygdan
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Originally posted by LadyV
I see these all the time! I just thought they were from the engines and a natural release. It's not natural for them to leave them behind?

This of course is the problem. They are to be expected. Some say that they have increased in number over time, but others say this is because planes
fly higher more often and for longer. Others say that the contrails that are long lived are chemtrails. Others say they are just not being dispersed
by the wind as quickly.
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reply posted on 20-1-2005 @ 12:46 PM by beezwaxes
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I think they are just dumping fuel in a few of the pics. I know military planes do it all the time to get down to landing weight.
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reply posted on 21-1-2005 @ 04:21 AM by Ryanp5555
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and why is this topic in Conspiracies in Religion????
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reply posted on 21-1-2005 @ 09:03 AM by Termite197
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Cause its a conspiracy!
Duh!
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reply posted on 21-1-2005 @ 09:15 AM by dbates
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 This whole chemtrail theory is really unnecessary. It reminds me of the Aztecs thinking
that the Spanish men on horses were half-man, half-animal.(Ooooh! Big snake cloud in sky...very scary) What's sad is that we don't have the same
excuse that they have. If you have Internet access (I assume since you are reading this) then you can research and find out that these are nothing
more than condensation trials. As some have stated earlier, the length of time these stay in the air depends on the humidity and temperature of the
air surrounding the engine exhaust. In really cold environments, the condensation freezes into ice crystals and stays afloat in the atmosphere for an
hour or more.
-Nothing new to see here. Move along folks.
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reply posted on 21-1-2005 @ 03:09 PM by Termite197
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okey dokey skippy
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reply posted on 21-1-2005 @ 04:47 PM by joepits
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When faced with chemtrail debunkers, I often point to these patents.
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Though I think this is just to keep those "in the know" satisfied. I think it is really a mind control operation that has to do with cell phone
towers, but thats another story.
The bottom line is that aersol operations OF SOME SORT have been CONFIRMED by a few military bases and FAA officials.
Here is one relevant story. Answering Machine Transcript Confirms Chemtrails
I reccomend you read "Chemtrails Confirmed" by William Thomas if you wish to get every fact. He doesn't try to prove any certain theory, rather he
just presents all the evidence of some sort of chemical spraying, including verified Army documents of biowarfare test on unspecting populations in
the middle of the last century.
I think some of it might be disinformation because I find it hard to believe that a book would get published without some government disinformation in
it.
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