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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: fleabit
I am saying that those objects have mass (shadows), they form a circle, the center object lights up..
They don't have shadows, unless you are talking about artifacts produced by the low light camera.
They form a "circle" only if your standards are flexible.
As far as "in the center", see the above sentence.
Why "if not ice?" Because you don't want it to be?
I doubt if not ice, they were trying to center themselves on the camera.
The mere fact the objects formed a fairly nice circle (and a lot better than I can draw a circle to be honest), and the center object lit up unlike its brethren is enough to spend more time investigating.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: fleabit
Why "if not ice?" Because you don't want it to be?
I doubt if not ice, they were trying to center themselves on the camera.
The mere fact the objects formed a fairly nice circle (and a lot better than I can draw a circle to be honest), and the center object lit up unlike its brethren is enough to spend more time investigating.
I can't draw worth a damn and I can draw a better circle than that. And space spots around it a lot more evenly. But go ahead, investigate away.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: fleabit
Somewhere, sometime, on ATS someone created a diagram showing the shadow of the shuttle works. Can't find it, offhand, that's why I used the analogy of a sundial.
You are making at least two assumptions about what you are seeing; 1) You are assuming that the objects change velocity 2) You are assuming that the objects are in the same vertical plane relative to the camera, that is they are the same distance from the camera.
Avoid those two assumptions (and possibly some others) and visualize a shadow extending from the shuttle and you may be able to understand that it is entirely possible that ice crystals floating around the spacecraft, imaged by a device designed to detect very low light levels, would momentarily display such a configuration.
Obviously they should all be exposed to the same light from whatever source.
No. This "thing" was not being monitored. But this was, automatically:
This was also being monitored.. why?
The Sun is the light source. It also causes the shuttle to create a shadow. That shadow is angled depending on the relationship between the Sun and the shuttle. Depending on its distance from the shuttle, an object may be in the shadow (and not illuminated) or out of the shadow (and illuminated). Objects drifting around the shuttle will move into and out of the shadow. Also, the shadow moves and the shuttle orbits and its relationship to the Sun changes.
No. I'm assuming that the shuttle casts an angled shadow and the the objects are relatively near the shuttle. That's about it as far as the assumptions I'm making.
And you are assuming that the objects to the left and right.. below.. were not in shadow but the center object was, and once the shadow was removed it illuminated more brightly because.. who knows
originally posted by: youcanttellthepeople
a reply to: SeaWorthy
Sorry I have to bite. It's called space 101. It's pretty damn cold up there (not that I've been,mind you). So ice is easily possible.
originally posted by: SeaWorthy
Lol
My post was supposed to read
What kind of ice experts at high altitude are you'all?
Somehow the one word went missing...
I like your explanation though, everything up there is ice cause it's plain ole cold.
originally posted by: nOraKat
I just saw this on the Science Channels program - NASA's Unexplained Files.
This was taken from the ISS HD surveillance cameras. The camera was cut out soon after they appeared.
I looked for the footage on the internet after seeing the show, this was the best one I could find.
I recommend muting the audio so you do not have to listen to the annoying guy.
The video shows 3 objects leaving the atmosphere.
It is reminiscent of a Space Shuttle mission video feed with similar UFO's but some people argued that it was ice coming off the shuttle after a thruster blast; but this one you cannot dismiss as ice.
Comments?
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: fleabit
No. I'm assuming that the shuttle casts an angled shadow and the the objects are relatively near the shuttle. That's about it as far as the assumptions I'm making.
And you are assuming that the objects to the left and right.. below.. were not in shadow but the center object was, and once the shadow was removed it illuminated more brightly because.. who knows
How many are required to think that this is anything more than a momentary random configuration of items floating around the shuttle?
originally posted by: fleabit
Obviously. And you are assuming that the objects to the left and right.. below.. were not in shadow but the center object was, and once the shadow was removed it illuminated more brightly because.. who knows. It was icier! Or something. Although none of the other objects produced the same illumination. Unless you are suggesting they were all under shadow.. except the center object?
Supposition on your part and mine. Thus the investigation bit. You have already obviously made your mind up, and such is the mind of those folks who have already dismissed such things. Because it can't be possible. As such, explanations like "shadows.." easily come into your mind, because it's the only logical.. and in fact, the ONLY explanation you can come up with. Since I can't prove the angle of shadows produced.. or the luminosity of the object in question, can't really call you out as being wrong.. right?
I'll keep investigating if it's all the same. Since I do question things like.. the pattern of the "ice crystals" in conjunction with the illumination of the center object. And I actually assume(d) ice myself.. but won't just dismiss it quite that easily. Quite a bit of probability there that is a bit off.