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Did Jesus Ever Really Intend For "Christianity"?

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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Ok let's say that he existed. Then what?




posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: windword

This is a strange answer.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: TheOnlyAnswer

Not really. Not a strange answer. According to the bible Jesus forgave all of our sins.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

A shepherd doesn't lay down their life for sheep. Sheep are for food and wool. If a shepherd does risk his life to save a sheep, he's doing it for his employer, who pays him to watch over his sheep.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: TheOnlyAnswer

Not really. Not a strange answer. According to the bible Jesus forgave all of our sins.


With faith.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:22 PM
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originally posted by: TheOnlyAnswer
a reply to: windword

This is a strange answer.



Do you deny its truth?



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: windword




All Bible stories are spiritual analogies.


What is the "spiritual analogy" of the genealogy of jesus in the Gospel of Matthew?



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

How's this for irony? (Talking about what Paul said):



Colossians 2:13-14 reads as follows, When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.

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posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien




Ok let's say that he existed. Then what?


He didn't live long enough, or he would have renounced his Christian ideas.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: ketsuko

A shepherd doesn't lay down their life for sheep. Sheep are for food and wool. If a shepherd does risk his life to save a sheep, he's doing it for his employer, who pays him to watch over his sheep.




14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
This commandment have I received of my Father.
John 10:14-18

I will quote this again.

I lay down my life and take it up again. He is the good shepherd and his flock is not sheep but us, all of us.

And then he goes on to talk about how His sheep hear Him. This is a repeating theme across all of his teachings.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:24 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope


He didn't live long enough, or he would have renounced his Christian ideas.


You're not being clear.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien




You're not being clear.


You just don't understand.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I have to be a Christian to understand? Got it.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: windword




All Bible stories are spiritual analogies.


What is the "spiritual analogy" of the genealogy of jesus in the Gospel of Matthew?


Why are Jesus' genealogies in Matthew and Luke so different?

Since Jesus was born of a virgin, what does his concocted genealogy, going all the way back to Adam and Eve, who also never existed, have to do with anything?



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: ketsuko

How's this for irony? (Talking about what Paul said):



Colossians 2:13-14 reads as follows, When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.


Was Jesus there to personally forgive them as he was during the days of His ministry? No? Then His sacrifice that he made and I just referenced spread his Grace to all who have faith. It was the sealing of the New Covenant.

Before you were bound with the law and no one could hold to it perfectly. Disraeli has an excellent series on the use of sacrifice to clear sin from the soul under the Mosaic Law. Christ sealed that covenant and made one last sin offering to cleanse sin for all time from the souls of all who had/would have faith in Him. It forgives sin through grace.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien




I have to be a Christian to understand? Got it.


You don't have it obviously. I never said that, and you habitually make stuff up.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: windword

According to LesMisanthrope we have to be christians to understand.



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Fine, you can be a sheep!



Don't be late for dinner!



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: windword




Why are Jesus' genealogies in Matthew and Luke so different?

Since Jesus was born of a virgin, what does his concocted genealogy, going all the way back to Adam and Eve, who also never existed, have to do with anything?


Do you always answer in questions?

You're the Bible expert here. If the Bible stories are "spiritual analogies", what is the spiritual analogy of the genealogy?



posted on May, 12 2016 @ 06:31 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien




According to LesMisanthrope we have to be christians to understand.


According to Deaf Alien, lies and slander are important to this discussion.



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