Pretty sure Bill Clinton's doodles prove Guccifer hacked into Hillary's server.

the fact the guy is looking at doing some hard time in prison points to the mans guilt.
the fact republicans are using a non story in an attempt to trash their opponent feels much like birthers and obama.

a reply to: RickinVa

Attribution in journalism is part of an ethical code. (You like codes Rick) it lends credibility to a story. Different attributions carry different weight in reliability and bias.
For instance a news agency can say an eye witness said and we know where they got that information. If the info proves false well it was the eye witness who said... a good journalist will learn to cultivate reliable sources and sharp instincts with outside sources. Always they will attribute. Or cover their asses.
If a news agency is sighting an official government source that tells the reader something.
If a news agency is sighting a special interest group source that tells the readers something else.

They take attribution seriously so even if a source wishes to remain anonymous there is still some way to attribute the information. Like "a source close to the investigation" but attributions carry different weights like I said.

When CNN said U.S. officials have been briefed they attributed the information to U.S. officials.

U.S. officials carries a different weight than sources close to the investigation as attributions go. I'm betting you'll disagree.


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originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: IAMTAT

Not familiar with Hillary's troll army. Sounds like another conspiracy theory to me.
If you say Mr Brock owns MM ok. This means ???????

See here:
ATS Thread: Trollgate

OOPS!
For someone "not familiar " with Hillary's Troll Army he/she posted in that thread multiple times.

I'm terrible, ain't I?

originally posted by: stinkelbaum
the fact the guy is looking at doing some hard time in prison points to the mans guilt.
the fact republicans are using a non story in an attempt to trash their opponent feels much like birthers and obama.

Guccifer admits hacking the HRC machines email server and has been cooperating with the FBI in their investigation of Hilley and co.

Non story? Hackers get into the SoS of the US of A's email server, the one she had set up for her convenience. State dept secrets were on a non secured server, now who in their right mind would think of that as a non story?

a reply to: butcherguy

Yes like I said another conspiracy theory. Internet campaigning becomes internet trolling when the candidate is the other guy. LOL.

a reply to: IAMTAT

I bet I said it was bunk there too.
I love how I'm trending with you. Now your looking up my posts.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: butcherguy

Yes like I said another conspiracy theory. Internet campaigning becomes internet trolling when the candidate is the other guy. LOL.

The guy admitted to doing it. Hardly a conspiracy theory.
Posting child porn porn on a Bernie site is what Hillary supporters refer to as 'campaigning'? Real nice.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I started with that. Guccifer has no proof
He's in jail. He's a criminal. He's a liar.
Next?

a reply to: butcherguy

Bull. Not associated with Hillary. At all.
A supporter.? We can't keep the crazy out on either side. These nuts are not associated with any campaigns or candidates.
Let's try to keep the nuts out of the equation please.
Neither side can control every persons actions. If a guy supporting trump murders someone who wants Sanders is trump responsible? No of course not. Not any more than Hillary's responsible for this guy. Let's keep it real ok.

a reply to: Sillyolme

I started with that.

And you stumbled.

Obviously reading comprehension and deductive reasoning are lacking on your part.

The proof I listed (From September 8, 2009 until June 24, 2011, Bill Clinton’s Foundation-run mail.presidentclinton.com server had an IP address of 24.187.234.187, according to DNS records.
Hillary’s mail.clintonemail.com server had the same exact IP address, 24.187.234.187, from the dates May 21, 2010 until October 21, 2010, according to DNS records.) is not Guccifer's.

This has been found through online searches of DNS records; you can perform the searches yourself and achieve the same results, that is what makes this verifiable fact and objective data.

All logic aside, I would think "The Gucci", having easily chopped into many secure email systems, was easily able to chop into the Clinton server(s).



Yes Professor, there *ARE* trees in a forest.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: IAMTAT

If it's that important to you honey. Ok.

Honesty is always important.

Case in point:
You say you're "not familiar" with Hillary's Army of trolls, yet you posted extensively in the Thread provided you, about it.
I remember because we debated there as well.

Be honest in your posts. People will eventually begin to start taking you seriously, if you do.

a reply to: Sillyolme

americannewsx.com...

I'm gonna call obvious political trolling on this one:

Pity the poor Republican Party. Scandal is it’s drug of choice. Now that its losing the Hillary Clinton’s email scandal as its Cause célèbre, the GOP needs a new drug.

...

They report the FBI is close to wrapping up the investigation with the final interview of Hillary Clinton, who is too smart a cookie to provide any self-incriminating evidence.

...

But that’s all gone now, and all that’s left is the whiff of a failed investigation and the snark that was once its name.

Edited to add:

CNN reports the FBI has nearly completed its 9-month-long investigation

So this article is merely regurgitating CNN, which the other two do as well. All of your 'sources' are really one and the same.



The entire article is more reminiscent of the juvenile comments in comment sections across the internet.

www.cnn.com...

www.mediaite.com...

These are virtually the same article, the pertinent portions:

In addition, this week, a notorious hacker awaiting trial claimed he infiltrated Clinton's server but law enforcement officials said the FBI investigation into Guccifer found no sign he got into the Clinton server according to law enforcement sources.

The interviews, we’re told, are focused on whether classified information was mishandled, and the security of the server. So far officials tell us, no, there is no evidence of criminal wrongdoing at this point in the investigation, but, again, the investigation is not over.

From each respectively are "... according to law enforcement sources," and, "So far officials tell us..." Ok, I'll buy your "Attribution in journalism..." blather, if you acknowledge a couple of objective and verifiable facts:

1) "FBI investigation into Guccifer found no sign he got into the Clinton server according to law enforcement sources" leaves open the possibility that if proper logging had not been enabled on the server, no outside intrusions would show, thus leaving "no sign that he got into the Clinton server." Ask your "geek friends" what it means that the system was left with remote desktop running and listening for connections...

And

2) "... the investigation is not over," is in direct contradiction to your assertion of:

It's over.

The Russians won't leak anything, not yet anyway. Not until Hilary is potus and they have some incriminating evidence to blackmail her with. Faced with being exposed as a fraud and losing her place do you think Hilary would resign or give in to blackmailer demands ?

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: AlaskanDad

I didn't doubt that a Romanian hacker had been in Hillary's server.
If this is accurate (sounds accurate to me), we should move on to what Guccifer said about seeing 10 different IPs on Hillary's server.... mostly foreign.

Guccifer would be correct if he said that, but it's not exactly news, AP gave out this story in October 2013,

[WASHINGTON -- Hillary Rodham Clinton's private email server, which stored some 55,000 pages of emails from her time as secretary of state, was the subject of attempted cyberattacks originating in China, South Korea and Germany after she left office in early 2013, according to a congressional document obtained by The Associated Press.]

Now it appears that Guccifer had someone watching over his shoulder, so you can add Russia to the list, since they got all the stuff as they were spying on Guccifer, hence the RT release of e-mails.
You can make guesses as to what other countries, but I dare say this whole thing ended up like Paddy's market.
It's not clear if all those countries actually hacked in and obtained information, or if it was before or after RT obtained the hacked e-mails

originally posted by: bigyin
The Russians won't leak anything, not yet anyway. Not until Hilary is potus and they have some incriminating evidence to blackmail her with. Faced with being exposed as a fraud and losing her place do you think Hilary would resign or give in to blackmailer demands ?

She would pay up, and play dumb.
That is her MO.

That is one more reason she is not qualified to be Commander in Chief,
she has been compromised.

a reply to: butcherguy

Yes I just didn't remember. I should be put to death now I guess. No one else around here ever makes a mistake.
That stupid thread was nothing that's why I didn't remember the garbage that was in it.

a reply to: smurfy

Sorry but that's wrong and recent reports confirm that her server was never hacked. No one who wasn't supposed to ever got in.
The investigation is wrapping up now.

a reply to: IAMTAT

So I forget. Big friggin deal. I still said the same thing. It's bull#.