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Transgender MMA Fighter Destroys Female Opponent

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posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 09:53 AM
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Absolutely ridiculous. For the purposes of the transgender person's day to day public and personal life, she's a woman. For competetive fighting purposes, that's a man. I doubt the musculo-skeletal structure and hormones were matched to that of a woman, and so, for fighting purposes, no sex change has occured.

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 09:56 AM
a reply to: Lysergic

That is where she should have a good argument...if one can use testosterone whether it be natural or not then why can't the other.

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 10:05 AM
I think Fox has a psychosis, set up to fight and abuse women by the Patriarchy. Sent in to PWN these uppity women who try to make it in a mans sport, only to be bested in an ironic fight.

One who hates women so much, feels the need to become one to fulfill a fantasy, in addition to being able to beat up women for another fantasy.

Wild Bill type, or Ed Gein. To a lesser extent Andy Kauffman, who for jokes or not liked to wrestle women for jollies.


Who cares
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posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 10:23 AM
a reply to: Painterz

Hatred is as valid as love and no one has right to dictate to others how to project themselves......the emotion is immutable and cannot be forced upon is the ACTIONS which define the is ONLY WITH ACTION that anyone may justifiably defend CANNOT BE PROACTIVE and attack people who "dont like you".

So people need to use their buying power as their voice and boycott any MMA sports entertainment shows which allow Birth-Men to compete with BirthWomen and vice versa......societies voice has been snuffed using the Commen Law System.....Lawyers and legalese have been used to cloud the true Status Quo opinions.So in a sorry but it is what it can jam distastefull things down societies gullet in the Courtroom , but you cannot force people to accept that which they do not prefer and when the voice of the majority has been artificially snuffed by Common Law which we "expect" to be truly representative of majority voice but which is defintely NOT SO , well when you try to stop nature you always fail,no one has ever figured out how to cap a Volcano,you cannot pit the majority against itself using manipulated Common Law and expect people to accept the artificial mnagement of their true emotions.

The way I see it is that natural Gender is being attacked on every level on every front....and Birth-Men and Birth-Women NEED PROTECTION ASAP....because small special interest groups have infiltratated the political System and specific societal dynamics in a stakeholder action,using money and influence and Common Laws to intentionlly abbrogate the true societal distaste for them,it has been one big salesjob and in its process natural birth selection is being made into a secondary consideration to artificial manipulation of like calling a Computer a human...its like granting sentience to something which is not natural as that which it was built to represent.

It is not small special interest groups being attacked here it is NATURE being attacked here,no one in this dynamic is asking for acceptance then accepting societies small special interest groups are in a BATTLE trying to FORCE THEMSELVES to be preferred by the majority under threat of punative actions emanating from artificially manipulated Common Laws whose true intentions which are to support the Majority of societal views have been undermined on a base level.

IMHO there is a PRIMARY process which has been abbrogated and these small special interest groups who have actioned this dynamic have been recruited and financed and supported to intentionlly create societal discourse,slow us all down and burn up our resources resolve and societal bonds .

I will support what the majority supports.....I will not accept anyone or anything being shoved down my gullet.

Do you really believe a truly repesentative number of women were burning their bras in the 60'S because before my Grandfather passed on he sat me down and showed me some simple math proving this was not possible and opened the door for me to see that the NUCLEAR FAMILY was really being undermined to suppress our birthrate,break the bonds and advantages of the nuclear family and you stonewall the reproduction numbers with surgical precision,simple salesmanship with fiscal and actical management ,anything which artificilly pulls us away from a natural process is machined and falsely catalysed.

I say that this problem was created in the Common Law arena where the TRUE MAJORITY VOICE IS ARTIFICILLY UNDERMINED BY PROXY OF we need to step away from that "rigged" arena and simply boycott MMA....hit them in the wallet HARD HARD HARD.....because if a gender-accurate human being doesnt sue because their daughter hs been murdered on national television by a Gender-specific natural MAN....some gender-specific human WILL sue for being predjudiced against or in some common law way screwed over......small special interest groups NEED the Common Law System because that is where their BIASED SUPPORT COMES FROM and it is where they generate income and support ,so they will ALWAYS RUN THERE FIRST FOR HELP this means MM better be carefull because these small special inerest groups are going to swing first all we need to do to get a true and accurate read on social climate is to BOYCOTT MMA UNTIL THEY MAKE CHANGES.....I have started today right now.If we dont hit MMA now to wake them up,these people will crush them in court sooner than later and we might all lose the quality of product we now enjoy.

We have made misakes here IMHO and we need to make a societal correction here......when you surrender your accurate birth gender you SURRENDER THE RIGHTS WHICH CAME WITH IT.....its your free choice....however UNTIL WE HAVE BUILT THOUSANDS OF checks and balances to support your societal definitions and parameters like we do with everyone else you are in LIMBO......the Common Law con-job was a shortcut and there is SO MUCH WORK TO DO to properly define artficial luxury gender assignments or choices that it will be 100 years before the proper groundwork is lain to PROTECT NATURAL GENDER REALITIES.

You see this is NOT about supporting societies majority wishes this is about promoting a small interest group,and to correctly support this process we must create an entirely seperate definition and designation which which to be fair to these new re-assigned gendered people BEGINS AS FAR AWAY FROM NORMAL AS IS POSSIBLE....however the"salespeople" have tried to use Common Law to MANIPULATE the status quo voice and to BEGIN this process of definition and designation of "new" luxury gender re-ssignments AS CLOSE TO THE NORMAL END OF THE SPECTRUM AS THEY CAN ARTIFICIALLY FORCE US TO START.

Take it back to court ASAP and try to prevent them from competing pro-actively ,get it wrapped up now and mire things deeply for YEARS to keep these articicially enhanced people away from our women and men for as long as we can,the legal fees will be cheaper than the precedent setting lawsuits which are by proxy just around the corner on the horizon.

One could view the IMPROPER promotion of these small special interest groups as overt attacks against humanity....Common Laws were instituted to protect women and children and the family unit which protects and supports Global humanities growth and propogation.These small special interest groups are using our Common Law processes against the very people they were designed to protect.....essentially against humanity.

Do we wish to ACCEPT things we find distatefull....things which the numerical MAJORITY find distastefull?This should not be possible....when our processes are intact and followed the majority voice should always be heard above any other,unmuffled,not suppressed not toned down not metered......humanities voice should be loud clear and decisive,and anything which strives to intentionally prevent this projection of power should be removed immediatly from the equation with predjudice on the basis of humnitarin defense.

Our natural GENDERS BECOME MORE VALUABLE WHEN YOU BEGIN CREATING NEW ONES....NOT LESS VALUABLE.....its time to step up and defend Humnity in the fiscal trenches by withdrwing our dollars yen and pesos ect ect ,not in the Common Law Systems which are designed to protect us but which by proxy undermine us.

First hit MMA HARD in the pocketbook to soften them up for the real hit which will come from legal decisions against them.........methinks pro boxing is fighting back ....methinks this is long term objective designed to catalyse some MASSIVE LAWSUITS DOWN THE ROAD......and methinks MMA got to big to fast and "someone" is gunning for their cash now.

I think society needs to create new ways to define and to protect new things,if we try to use old ways we will hurt our own,so IMHO we should SUSPEND the ability of these new luxury gender re-assignments to compete against natural gender humans on every level.....its no different than steroids, gender re-ssignment in some cases is equitable to using performance enhancing drugs,just like any human with with genetic anomoly which creates super-human abilities due to non-linear biological manifesttions.

The same logic behind weight classes is an established benchmark for us to lets simple rework it to include gender re-assignments and if there are not enough competitors or the marketplace rejects the product then exactly like Womens MMA these re-ssigned gender humans must build their own path to acceptance just like everyone else does,not by cheating first and sneaking in the backdoor then running to the Common Law safety net they have available , which is their proven method.

Do luxury gender re-ssignment humans have a right to be able to acess resources built for natural gender humans,this is the question,does computer in someones head not make them part machine?Do steroids not make you cheater?Doesnt a steel plate in your head disqualify you by proxy?

This is very dangerous territory because today it gender-re-ssignment and tomorow its cerebral re-ssignment....and wow do we ever need to STOP THIS RIGHT NOW BEFORE THESE PEOPLE GET MORE OF A COMMON LAW BASE TO WORK FURTHER PROBLEMS OFF OF.

Do you want your kid to lose a spelling bee to a biologic anomoly created for some other parents luxury and fun,to feel like he or she is LESS than they really are because they are being bullied because someone bought a luxury cerebral re-assignment for their 4 year old before they put them in school where all they could accomplish is unnatural biolgiclly enhanced belitlement and debasement of normal natural kids.This is not unrealistic considering how quickly technology is progressing.

Who in their right mind would expect EveryMan and EveryWoman to accept an un-natural Luxury-Gender Assignment as being "normal" and "equitable"....and then expect everyone to suppress their natural dislike and distste and hatered for something they do not prefer?

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posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 10:32 AM
a reply to: one4all

Ban mma? It is an art, a lifestyle, a sport, it's a healthy outlet for kids or anyone needing a healthy place to direct their energy.

If mma was banned and there were no event on TV so many people would never have gotten into fighting and would have missed out on a beautiful life changing opportunity. Self included. I started fighting because I fell in love with the UFC.

It's great for people both mentally and physically.

Who are we gonna hit hard in the pocketbooks? All promotions? As far as I know the UFC would never allow this.

I'm sure the rest of the stuff you said was great but back up off of my MMA.

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posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 10:37 AM

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: GoShredAK
I can't believe this dude is still fighting. Wtf man. Stupid promotion too.

ETA: Nevermind I see. Disregard.

Can you imagine at the gym dude?

Who are his training partners is he training mostly with women or men?

I cannot imagine brother.

Apparently there's people who are ok with training someone to beat women. Every mma gym I've been in, even hinting towards something dishonorable like that would at the very least get a person shark tanked.

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 10:58 AM
link ban MMA...sorry if I was unclear.

Boycott MMA by not watching and not paying to watch it until the Industry pro-actively stops these matches from happening.

I am also huge MMA fan.

Just because the question is up in the air doesnt mean we the viewer cannot be proactive in our support for a normal natural Birth-Gender environment for competition.

These oddballs are 100% the same as steroid monkeys and I have advocated for a Steroid accepted seperate Olympics for my entire life....if we have weight classes we are policing the sport , we can also police it by having biolgical checks and balances which prevent a birth-male skeletal bone structure from ever competing with a birth-female skeletal bone structure.There has to be an entirely new designation made BEFORE we give the benefit of the doubt to the people challenging birth-gender definitions of which there already exists a status quo defined "normal",before some luxury gender re-ssignment human with male bone structure kills woman in front of us all.

MMA doesnt wish to be sued for not allowing these humans to compete before we establish new definitions and environments for them to compete in.But they will be sued with more impact if they dont stop it like Bob Arum to me.

Maybe the birth-gender re-ssigned people would PREFER to battle other men who have chosen to surrender their gender and the rights which come with it and emulate women without the protection of the rights their natural gender affords them.

I feel sorry for the small special interest group of handi-capped and one-legged fans at a track I support the Special Olympics and always have,,,,,I will NEVER AGREE TO CHANGING THE MAJORITY TO SUPPORT THE MINORITY.....I support acceptance of minorities but not forced changes to the majority status quo which are in humanitarian sense regressive.

Birth-Gender re-assignment supporters really want us to accept their manipulation of their biological bodies and the "creating" of a new gender and decree it to be EQUAL to the birth-natural gender designations.

A computer is not sentient and a luxury gender re-assignment by proxy abbrogates your right to claim commonality to ANY BIRTH-NATURAL GENDER will NEVER BE A WOMAN IF YOU ARE BORN A MAN AND VICE VERSA......once you disconnect from the natural humanitarian components of your existnce you disconnect from the supports it provides you nd you must build new supports,its a long hard road many many groups have gone down,and I see no reason to short-cut it for any small special interest group.

Luxury Gender re-assignments do not qualify to fit into any existing boxes....they have to apply for a new designation and break into the sport like everyone else. Put in the groundwork and build your own Class of fighters and until them you do not compete.

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 11:03 AM
a reply to: one4all

Ok lol my bad, I just saw ban mma and my brain malfunctioned.

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 11:08 AM
There is no stopping this madness unless we decide to stop it. This goon, this freak of nature in the cage beating up a woman is just that, a Goon and a freak of nature. How can anyone condone such an act? People here have the audacity to call it hate speech yet the sites motto is deny ignorance. This is the very definition of ignorance.

Folks, you know the next front is "Age Identity Questioning" which will give them the ultimate prize they seek.

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 11:19 AM
a reply to: Painterz

Telling a bi-polar person they have a disorder.....

Telling someone w depression they have a disorder

Telling someone with schizophrenia they have a disorder...

Is not HATE speech it's fact and most of them aknowledge it and deal w it the best they can

Facts don't give a crap about your feelings. Or triggers

If all the above are actual disorders. Then so is a person who thinks they are the opposite sex, it's an embalance

That doesn't mean we hate them or anything else. It just is what it is

So please stop w your nonsense "hate speech" labels. And go find yourself a "safe space"

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 11:19 AM
a reply to: RepealTheLaw

Already underway, this is a great mix of everything here.

Man lives as little girl

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 11:24 AM
When you replace one dogma (liberal secular dogma) for another (traditional religious dogma) you still have the intellect and solutions of dogs rather than of wise men and woman.

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 11:29 AM
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

wow just wow. i think alot of people share the same feeling. One thing to look and act and feel like a girl. Another to enter female competitions

they should have their own version that no-one will really watch. Like the Para-Olympics

They still have a major genetic difference to make it too much of an advantage

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 12:09 PM
That sounds like the title for some dodgy porn video
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posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 12:09 PM
a reply to: Freija

I almost sent this in a PM, but I think it's safe to say publicly. I can't imagine all the hate and ignorance you have felt and dealt with in your lifetime. But if you can for just a minute, realize that most of us are in the same boat. We have never had to deal with this situation, or come to terms with what this means. We have ALL been sheltered by society. that same society that in the past, made you feel bad for who you were.

So getting angry at us for simply being us, is equally unfair. I doubt a guy with a Doctorate in Physics gets angry when he speaks to me about dark matter. Sure I know it's likely dark based on the name, but other than that, to me, it just doesn't matter. So I know little about it.

While you are likely a stronger person than most, due to your life experiences, remember that most aren't that strong, and most just don't get it. (like me in that other thread) I have a lot of respect for you, as I am sure others here do. But you need to understand most simply don't get it, and it's kind of our right to not have to face this if we don't want to, or aren't ready to.

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 12:16 PM
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

The article is from June 2015.

Fortunately, he hasnt fought since September of 2014.

Where were the feminists in all of this? Were they silent on the issue?

I would think that they would object to what is in essence, a man beating up a woman.

Regardless of his self-perceived gender, he was born a man. How in his own mind can he possibly justify hitting, beating and injuring women?


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posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 12:38 PM
a reply to: Domo1

Shame on you Domo. Shame on you.

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 01:06 PM
a reply to: onequestion

Yea I mean sure technology is out there to see if he is able to compete with a girl and coaches and trainers to grapple and so forth. Who is not to say though the adrenaline in the ring is amped for a guy as well as other hormones. They need to know more and he should have told them before he started fighting. The fact that it said he had 4 first round ko's before telling people is just blowing my mind though.

Also I feel this is still has to be a mental issue as well in some form with transgenders. With everything they have to take the side effects are not known enough to a positive or negative result in this case. The brain may in most regards hold itself back and testosterone and adrenaline back in a normal state as a girls mindset. However in a fight or flight adrenaline situation I would think Dna genetics what have you kind of kick in in some regard. So go ahead and measure these things as well.

Many female fighters could beat males in MMA and do outside the octagon in practice and so fourth. Not as often in same weight but it does happen more than people think. This is not really the issue. It for me is still not being up front about it. If this fighter knew before hand then that is her fault.

PED in MMA especially amateurs is wide spread in male and female but Fox was naturally born with a advantage...dumbing that advantage down then trying to get it better does not make a lot of since.

As Dana says in any other competition sure let them compete male vs female. When your talking a combat sport where someone just dies recently....umm not so fast. Also with money involved if the other woman knows then its at her own risk and for the money. However if you are talking belts and championships I do not think so, especially as it should be considered a PED or PEN performance enhanced naturally.

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 01:12 PM
a reply to: Domo1

I am pretty sure I agree with you 100%. very well put!

posted on Apr, 21 2016 @ 01:45 PM
Orbital fractures and concussions are pretty common in the sport and could have just as easily happened between 2 women fighting. Based on the couple of fights I've witnessed of guys fighting women I'm not entirely sure that gender allows much of an advantage and even if there are inherent physical advantages and limitations these can be overcome with training.

I get why people are mad about it, even I'm a bit shocked by it but I also have to consider that maybe my reaction is based on prejudice more than anything else. I've certainly seen women come through my gym that are tougher and more determined than a lot of the guys, that only wanted to spar with dudes and could quite easily hold their own.

The girl who got beat knew what she was getting into, signed the contract and stepped in the cage of her own volition with full knowledge of who her opponent was. I think it's a bit unfair to put the loss down to simply fighting someone that used to be a guy.

It's a weird state of affairs for sure but the questions it raises are pretty interesting.

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