Originally posted by Essan

Manipulation of weather patterns with Scalar weapons is possible. The creation of high pressure domes to steer cold fronts isn't that difficult to understand.

It's not as simple as that........ The positions of high and low pressure are determined by a variety of factors such as sea/land surface temperatures and the position of the jet streams.

If a high pressure cell were to form abnormally, it'd easily be spotted.

Thermodynamics drives all weather in the world. Adding a little heat in the right spots can make a very big change in how a "front" moves down or up from the pole to the equator. Supercomputers and a few gW's of power can do strange things.......

Originally posted by Essan
I am a meteorologist.......

I appreciate the input. The guy that got me onto this subject was a meterologist, too. What is your position on chemtrails? And don't you think nukes DEEP underwater could shift plates, causing mass damage such as the Indonesian quake?

Sorry if any of my questions sound ignorant... I slept through most of my science classes.

Originally posted by DrHoracid
Thermodynamics drives all weather in the world. Adding a little heat in the right spots can make a very big change in how a "front" moves down or up from the pole to the equator. Supercomputers and a few gW's of power can do strange things.......

Can you tell us a little info. about your professional background, Doc?

Originally posted by EastCoastKid

Originally posted by Essan
I am a meteorologist.......

I appreciate the input. The guy that got me onto this subject was a meterologist, too. What is your position on chemtrails?

I'm afraid I've yet to see anything that doesn't look like common or garden contrails and high level cloud. And the logic behind the theory is so obviously flawed - why do they only occur where people can see them? Given that 70% of the Earth is ocean.... It is possible that a small percentage of cases do involve deliberate release of chemicals or something into the atmosphere. BUt the vast majority of cases are simply misidentifications of normal cloud formation.

And don't you think nukes DEEP underwater could shift plates, causing mass damage such as the Indonesian quake?

Theoretically, yes. In practice: highly unlikely and for what reason? Also, the seismic signatures of a nuclear explosion are different to those of an earthquake (which is how we can tell when, say, the Chinese set off an underground test explosion) .

Sorry if any of my questions sound ignorant... I slept through most of my science classes.

No probs, though a) I'm about to leave work now so won't be able to answer many more questions and b) I'm a sllight fraud insofar as I'm only an amateur meteorologist (although I do have friends who are fully trained professionals....)

[edit on 13-1-2005 by Essan]

Originally posted by EastCoastKid

Originally posted by DrHoracid
Thermodynamics drives all weather in the world. Adding a little heat in the right spots can make a very big change in how a "front" moves down or up from the pole to the equator. Supercomputers and a few gW's of power can do strange things.......

Can you tell us a little info. about your professional background, Doc?

I was an independent researcher in energy conservation at one time. I worked with many others at LBL, Los Alamos, EPRI, NRDC, ACEEE, DOE etc. I experimented with different methods of generating, transporting, conserving and transmitting energy. I was the "call (doc) something screwed up...guy". The "trouble shooter" you might say. If "it" went bad I got the call to clean things up and find out what failed.

[edit on 13-1-2005 by DrHoracid]

Originally posted by DrHoracid
Thermodynamics drives all weather in the world. Adding a little heat in the right spots can make a very big change in how a "front" moves down or up from the pole to the equator. Supercomputers and a few gW's of power can do strange things.......

I still don't think it's that simple. After all, at times we can't yet predict how the pressure cells and fronts will behave in 3 days time (sometimes less) with any real certainty. And whilst it's possible to look at a model output and think "well if that HP cell was a bit bigger, or we had a ridge join up to it there" a LP cell would move how we wanted, actually getting it to do so is a whole different matter.

And as I keep asking - if we can control the weather, how comes most of us in Britain didn't get a white christmas this year, when conditions were so nearly right?

Let me be clear here, I don't think man can control things yet. We are just screwing things up for now. Mad scientist stuff.

Originally posted by DrHoracid
Let me be clear here, I don't think man can control things yet. We are just screwing things up for now. Mad scientist stuff.

Sadly, that is more believable - we think we can do it, so we muck around and end up making a right pig's ear*of it all........


(*UK slang for a very big mess!)

I somewhat agree with this article. Nuke testing in the 50 and 60's and in particular current French tests in the pacific "still" have done great harm. There is data linking weather issues following atmosphereic testing of nukes. HAARP was sought to provide similar "heating" that was more controlable than a sudden blast.

"Traditional" global warming from enviro-libs is still BS. But scalar heating is more probable and in fact likely.

I am not directly familiar with the drawings you posted. However, the "grid" was a early version of GPS technology. Coordination of an EM howitzer without supercomputer techology was labor intensive. Plotting the "bounce" and other "geometry" must have taken a room full of mathmaticians. There is significant evedence to back up a Scalar weapons "war" has been taking place for sometime now. I do know that ALL "secure" telecom buildings in the US have an internal "em grid" and elaborate grounding system. It has been that way since the 60's.

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
If it was a man-made event, what would the purpose have been and who might've been behind it? Who has the technology, or, who is working on it?

Well, prolly cus, most terrorists are hidding out there. That's what the US govt. thinks,,,,
Bout who's working on it,,,,well,,u know