This is really getting ridiculous: Special Snowflake Syndrome

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

Fine. We agree in essence but not in terminology.

Out of curiosity, why?

I ask because "diversity", "inclusivity", and the demanding of protection from words (in this case the words "Trump" and "2016") for sake of certain racial groups isn't necessarily in any right-wing platforms that I've seen.

Agreeing with you in terms of "in essence"...is much more face-saving than admitting being just plain wrong.

Why don't you talk to me since you're discussing me?

I'm not wrong because you disagree. LesMis knew exactly what I meant I believe; we'll see.

You can use any words you choose but these kids are not leftists and certainly aren't liberals, they're trying to use the force of the University to punish those they disagree with. That is a right-wing and authoritarian tactic.

Obviously LesMis did NOT know exactly what you meant; otherwise, he/she would not have asked for clarification by saying: "Out of curiosity, why?".

a reply to: Gryphon66

Right-wing and authoritarian are synonymous in my usage.

There are plenty of socialist and communist authoritarian regimes. Authoritarianism isn't limited to one side of the political spectrum.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

Fine. We agree in essence but not in terminology.

Out of curiosity, why?

I ask because "diversity", "inclusivity", and the demanding of protection from words (in this case the words "Trump" and "2016") for sake of certain racial groups isn't necessarily in any right-wing platforms that I've seen.

Agreeing with you in terms of "in essence"...is much more face-saving than admitting being just plain wrong.

Why don't you talk to me since you're discussing me?

I'm not wrong because you disagree. LesMis knew exactly what I meant I believe; we'll see.

You can use any words you choose but these kids are not leftists and certainly aren't liberals, they're trying to use the force of the University to punish those they disagree with. That is a right-wing and authoritarian tactic.

Obviously LesMis did NOT know exactly what you meant; otherwise, he/she would not have asked for clarification by saying: "Out of curiosity, why?".

And why are you "helping" us, with your side swipe that I'm wrong? You've got something to say to me or about me, say it.

LesMisanthrope and I can effectively communicate on our own, thank you kindly.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

Right-wing and authoritarian are synonymous in my usage.

There are plenty of socialist and communist authoritarian regimes. Authoritarianism isn't limited to one side of the political spectrum.

And when they become authoritarian, they are no longer Left they are Right.

The Left is continually revolutionary and against State control in favor of individual rights and freedoms.

We've gone over the semantics before; I don't want to skew the topic (again.)

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

Fine. We agree in essence but not in terminology.

Out of curiosity, why?

I ask because "diversity", "inclusivity", and the demanding of protection from words (in this case the words "Trump" and "2016") for sake of certain racial groups isn't necessarily in any right-wing platforms that I've seen.

Agreeing with you in terms of "in essence"...is much more face-saving than admitting being just plain wrong.

Why don't you talk to me since you're discussing me?

I'm not wrong because you disagree. LesMis knew exactly what I meant I believe; we'll see.

You can use any words you choose but these kids are not leftists and certainly aren't liberals, they're trying to use the force of the University to punish those they disagree with. That is a right-wing and authoritarian tactic.

Obviously LesMis did NOT know exactly what you meant; otherwise, he/she would not have asked for clarification by saying: "Out of curiosity, why?".

I'd like to revise because you evoked an abrupt reaction and you deserve a better answer.

I say these kids are Right not Left because they want to use the power of the University to seek out, control and or punish others with whom they disagree.

A more leftist reaction to the Trump 2016 chalking would have been to turn the T into a symbolic representation of a penis, or otherwise take direct action "chalking 'Dump Trump"" over it or something along that line.

Running to the "state" (metaphorically here) to have the administration (policemen) go and punish those who did NOTHING more than express their own political thought ... is fascist and right-wing in my understanding.

Leftists would be seeking to let everyone have their equal say; these kids are trying to squelch anyone that they disagree with.

I know this probably runs against the the idea that the Tea Party's attempts to counter government overreach are "right wing" but that's not the sense I'm using the terminology in. I would argue that the Tea Party was only against government power until they got INTO power, and then, set about implementing the other aspects of their fairly unique political agenda USING THE VERY POWER of the State they pretended to hate.

I'm sure we dont' agree with each other there, but you deserved a better answer than you got.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

It's a double edged sword, saying that this generation is weak or special snowflakes, because it leads to the question of why are they like this ?

Also when something pisses me off, for instance losing 900$ on my tax return, I feel like taking a sledgehammer and destroy an entire house, but I keep it in my head and I don't go out to protest about it.

Once again the question is why are they, Or I even, like this ?

That deserves an answer I think, on their part more than mine.

originally posted by: threeeyesopen
a reply to: burdman30ott6

It's a double edged sword, saying that this generation is weak or special snowflakes, because it leads to the question of why are they like this ?

Just guessing, mind you, but I propose that those in their mid 20's, like the college crowd, have grown up feeling that they have more of a voice because of perhaps two influences.

First, they have come of age during the ascension of the web, constantly tweeting and posting their thoughts online. Separating a youth from their iPhones, etc., is like tearing off their arms.

Secondly, they grew up with both parents working and spent their formative years under the supervision of child care and all the 'special treatment' that entails.

Both the above was maintained throughout their lives. The web kept their interest from early teens on and beyond while the baby sitters eventually became school teachers. In effect, parents are mostly out of the picture from birth to college.

That's why they are vocal, feel special and perhaps seen as 'demanding'. Nothing can replace good parenting.

originally posted by: reddragon2015
a reply to: burdman30ott6

kids now a day are weak. it's from the lack from playing outside.

Kids are weak for that plus about 3 or four other reasons, discipline has been all but removed from homes and schools, parents who try to impose parental authority are now "abusive", cramming medications they more than likely do not need down them for bull crap like ADD just to name a couple. Spank the brats and send em to bed with no dinner.

originally posted by: CranialSponge
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Some of these people will be the future leaders of this country...Maybe.

Yeah, after they've grown up and matured a little more.

Right now they're just young college students doing what young college students do... protesting for the sake of protesting.



But apparently, they're the reason why the country has gone to hell in a handbasket.

Not entirely true, actual students are to busy for this protest this and that crap, they study and go to class.

a reply to: Flesh699

Nicki Minaj is 33 years old

What's your angle - young people like sex more now than they did when you were a kid?

:-)

originally posted by: Greggers
And every generation of older folks always looks at the next generation as weak and stupid --because, let's face it, they ARE until they've had some real experience.

And that is why the voting age should be at least 30 years. Gota weed out the whiny brats who just want "free" stuff or "change" without having the sense to foresee the consequences of said "change" or the cost of the "free" stuff.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Emory costs between $50,000.00 and $75,000.00 a year to attend there, obviously they have a silver-spoon syndrome, and have very little touch with reality.

Kinda like our politicians.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

There are plenty of socialist and communist authoritarian regimes. Authoritarianism isn't limited to one side of the political spectrum.

I'm pretty sure he just told you - just before you replied: Right-wing and authoritarian are synonymous in my usage.

You're going to have to play it as it lies I'm afraid - or risk looking like the pedantic control freak that you are

Conversation - like the one we're having now - does not get to move or stop on your command

Just how authoritarian do you have to be to try to control what other people are saying - and to own what it is they mean?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

“I’m supposed to feel comfortable and safe [here],” one student said. “But this man is being supported by students on our campus and our administration shows that they, by their silence, support it as well … I don’t deserve to feel afraid at my school,” she added.

In that case, i sincerely hope that 'one student' isn't studying politics...they don't really seem to get the idea at all!

I'm sure this has already been stated numerous times in numerous threads, but I find it difficult to blame the kids here. They are responding in ways that they have been taught is acceptable. I blame the parents, the shrinks, the social policy makers, the public school system, the ninny professors, and the government. I find myself wondering if it all is by design sometimes.

originally posted by: Arizonaguy
I'm sure this has already been stated numerous times in numerous threads, but I find it difficult to blame the kids here. They are responding in ways that they have been taught is acceptable. I blame the parents, the shrinks, the social policy makers, the public school system, the ninny professors, and the government. I find myself wondering if it all is by design sometimes.

As a parent, I would feel like I failed at my job if a child of mine started this entitled snowflake crap.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The problem is, that from the mid-70's on, it became the norm for both parents to work. Not only the norm, but by the late 80's a necessity, because wages stagnated while the cost of living increased. Wages are still stagnated.

Raising kids on one income just wasn't enough to feed a family and still isn't today.

Helicopter parenting is so prevalent today that I think most toddlers learn their lessons at daycare instead of home.

originally posted by: masqua
a reply to: DBCowboy

The problem is, that from the mid-70's on, it became the norm for both parents to work. Not only the norm, but by the late 80's a necessity, because wages stagnated while the cost of living increased. Wages are still stagnated.

Raising kids on one income just wasn't enough to feed a family and still isn't today.

Helicopter parenting is so prevalent today that I think most toddlers learn their lessons at daycare instead of home.

I'm sorry, but that might be a reason why parents are tired but it doesn't excuse them from the responsibility.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Tired, sure... but also preoccupied.

Typical scenario: Mom or dad picks kids up from daycare and drives home. Mom, maybe, tosses frozen meals bought at grocery store into microwave while dad plays with toddler.

After eating their processed slop, dad does outside chores while mom does laundry, vacuums and does dishes in the washer.

After it gets dark, toddler goes to bed and mom and dad sit and watch a movie.

Lights out.

Get up, rush breakfast, dress toddler and, on the way to work, drop the munchkin off at daycare.

Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.

They're lucky to (have) at least one day together on weekends.

a reply to: masqua

I'm a parent, I know it's tough. I know my parenting wasn't perfect either. But I took the job seriously.

I and my wife sacrificed so my children didn't have to.

Being tired, watching a movie is no excuse to not parent.