Bernie Sanders - 'When You're White You Don't Know What It's Like To Be Poor'

a reply to: Elementalist

I guess Bernie wasn't PC enough in how he said it, as he seems to have offended a few sensitive folks here.

Given the incessant desire to view communities and classes according to race and not much else, and the abstract rather than individual consideration thereof, I think we get a very clear view of who the new racists are, who dehumanize entire groups of people in order to maintain their intellectual vision.

The point of his statement wasn't about white people not knowing what it's like to be poor. First of all, the quote isn't even correct. What he said was:

"When you're white you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto. You don't know what it's like to be poor. You don't know what it's like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car. And I believe as a nation in the year 2016, we must be firm in making it clear... We will end institutional racism... And reform a broken criminal justice system."

Nitpick all you want, that's a solid statement. Sure, he's not condoning the murder of innocent families or legalizing torture-- Nothing to make America great again like that-- BUT still... a solid statement about institutional racism.

"When you're Bernie Sanders, you won't know what it's like to be president of the United States of America."


Nice to see he's become little more than a political fart in a windstorm and no longer needs to be seriously worried about.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6


Nice to see he's become little more than a political fart in a windstorm and no longer needs to be seriously worried about.

Well, we'll see...

a reply to: neo96

Of course. Fine NEO. I'll get off the couch and turn on my laptop and spend 30 Seconds finishing off this thread. BRB.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Given the incessant desire to view communities and classes according to race and not much else, and the abstract rather than individual consideration thereof, I think we get a very clear view of who the new racists are, who dehumanize entire groups of people in order to maintain their intellectual vision.

Indeed, its interesting to hear them call other people racists.....

Every time I hear "institutional Racism" or "white privilege" come out of their mouths all I hear is "No no its ok, were here to help you because you cant do it because youre black"

That seems a lot more racist to me then anything

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Yes, it's so racist to offer support against racism...
I can't think of anything more vile than someone with empathy and a desire to help.

I just keep wondering if all these Bernie supporters would just as easily excuse Trump saying: "When You're Black You Don't Know What It's Like To Be Rich."

I take much enjoyment watching the Bernie Sanders(BS) movement collapse. It was only a matter of time before the ignorant masses would actually catch wind of the crap he's shoveling.

Clearly he hasn't had a reality check in a few decades.
Poverty doesn't discriminate between race or nationality.
Of course being in politics for 3 decades will do that to a person...

What the hell is that anyway?
Political white guilt?

You can't fix poverty by throwing money at it. Coincidentally the more government assistance programs we have the more poverty we have. Go figure... If the federal government(mainly the left) enables people with all the juicy assistance programs of course people will take advantage of it.

More to come folks!
Stay tuned, I believe this circus is just starting...

originally posted by: IAMTAT
I just keep wondering if all these Bernie supporters would just as easily excuse Trump saying: "When You're Black You Don't Know What It's Like To Be Rich."

They sure didn't want to listen to the rest of what Trump said about middle eastern immigration.

They stopped listening after 'muslim'.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Yes, it's so racist to offer support against racism...
I can't think of anything more vile than someone with empathy and a desire to help.

The problem with that is in the 21st century.

The people that go around shouting 'racist' clearly have no clue what the word means.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

I just keep wondering if all these Bernie supporters would just as easily excuse Trump saying: "When You're Black You Don't Know What It's Like To Be Rich."

The thread would get 200 flags and a deluge of criticism.

a reply to: neo96

I'm pretty sure many would be screaming "Racism" before he finished saying it.

Full Debate Transcript on Time

SANDERS: Well, let me just very briefly tell you a story. When I was in one of my first years in Congress, I went to a meeting downtown in Washington, D.C. And I went there with another congressman, an African-American congressman. And then we kind of separated during the meeting. And then I saw him out later on. And he was sitting there waiting and I said, well, let’s go out and get a cab. How come you didn’t go out and get a cab?

He said, no, I don’t get cabs in Washington, D.C. This was 20 years ago. Because he was humiliated by the fact that cabdrivers would go past him because he was black. I couldn’t believe, you know, you just sit there and you say, this man did not take a cab 20 years ago in Washington, D.C. Tell you another story, I was with young people active in the Black Lives Matter movement. A young lady comes up to me and she says, you don’t understand what police do in certain black communities. You don’t understand the degree to which we are terrorized, and I’m not just talking about the horrible shootings that we have seen, which have got to end and we’ve got to hold police officers accountable, I’m just talking about every day activities where police officers are bullying people.

So to answer your question, I would say, and I think it’s similar to what the secretary said, when you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car.

And I believe that as a nation in the year 2016, we must be firm in making it clear. We will end institutional racism and reform a broken criminal justice system.

So here is the full response Bernie gave to the question. In it, he is clearly mimic-ing what the Black Lives Matter activist was telling him and the way in which she did it in the previous paragraph when she was saying: you don’t understand what police do in certain black communities. You don’t understand the degree to which we are terrorized, and I’m not just talking about the horrible shootings that we have seen, which have got to end and we’ve got to hold police officers accountable, I’m just talking about every day activities where police officers are bullying people.

Now, did he word that part poorly? Obviously. They call that a gaffe:

gaffe
ɡaf/
noun
an unintentional act or remark causing embarrassment to its originator; a blunder.

Does any normal person think what Bernie meant by that is that white people don't know what it's like to be poor? Coming from a man who grew up WHITE and POOR? My original assessment stands. People who look at this as some kind of literal truth escaping accidentally is the third grade equivalent of "omg you guise! the teacher said butt!"

Those who think this will make even an iota of difference need to get in touch with me for those coping techniques I mentioned earlier. I respond to PM's

a reply to: JAY1980

You can't fix poverty by throwing money at it. Coincidentally the more government assistance programs we have the more poverty we have. Go figure... If the federal government(mainly the left) enables people with all the juicy assistance programs of course people will take advantage of it.

The War on Poverty has been a raging 'success'.

Never before in this nations entire history. Is there now more people broke,more dependent upon government for their existence than EVER.

Over $22 TRILLION dollars spent. More than the last decade of war in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and much like both those 'wars'.

War on Poverty

They don't have a damn thing to show for it other than a national debt of over $19 TRILLION dollars.

I guess Sanders fancies himself as a Johnson. The creator of food stamps,medicare, and medicaid. Which account for the largest expenditures of federal revenue.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: neo96

I'm pretty sure many would be screaming "Racism" before he finished saying it.

They sure would.

Even though people are NOT born religious.

LOL.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Yes, it's so racist to offer support against racism...
I can't think of anything more vile than someone with empathy and a desire to help.

The Boy who cried Wolf

There was a Shepherd Boy who tended his sheep at the foot of a mountain near a dark forest. It was lonely for him, so he devised a plan to get a little company. He rushed down towards the village calling out “Wolf, Wolf,” and the villagers came out to meet him. This pleased the boy so much that a few days after he tried the same trick, and again the villagers came to his help. Shortly after this a Wolf actually did come out from the forest. The boy cried out “Wolf, Wolf,” still louder than before. But this time the villagers, who had been fooled twice before, thought the boy was again lying, and nobody came to his aid. So the Wolf made a good meal off the boy’s flock.

Calling people racists for merely disagreeing with your opinion does more damage to those with legitimate claims of being victims of racism than those who actually commit the act of racism! Kind of muddies the whole system up, don't ya think?

a reply to: seeker1963

Yes, it's so racist to offer support against racism...

The 'socialists' in Nazi Germany in the 30s whined about a groups race too.

That didn't turn out too well for the Jews.

Obviously he fails to see or take into account many things, and this was a bad thing for him to say.

For starters to state that a person does not know what it is like to be poor or live in a ghetto, cause a person is white?

He has no clue about such, and lets just say I have been in and know of many people who are poor and have lived in a ghetto, where they were always one paycheck away from being on the street.

And I can safely say I know what it is to be the minority in a neighborhood and the token person in a group as well.