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Bernie Sanders - 'When You're White You Don't Know What It's Like To Be Poor'

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posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:41 AM
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Yes Bernie white people have 'no' idea of what it means to be 'poor'!!!

If your a person that determines their SELF worth by how many zero's are on your government benefit check.

Your still going to vote for Sanders.

Quite a shame.
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posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:43 AM
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An outrageous comment... None of these people live in the real world, It's shockingly evident that Bernie doesn't.



While the economic challenges of working-class voters are well documented, the cultural challenges are just as notable. At every turn, the cultural aristocrats cause harm. Mocking poor whites is among the last acceptable forms of bigotry. Even the white working-class voters struggling with declining wages, declining health, and increasing despair are derided as somehow “privileged.” Those who speak for them are labeled bigots. Meanwhile, people keep dying, and families fracture.


Working-Class–White Deaths Are a Cultural Problem



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:44 AM
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Wow! I wonder why you have found the need to take his words so far out of context. I'm with Kali, he's talking about institutional racism. There's some truth to his words, but they held true a bit better decades prior. Now a days there's plenty of white folks in the ghettos that get issues from police and what have ya. I get what he's saying, even though it's obviously not the best approach to addressing the issue.
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(post by AlaskanDad removed for a manners violation)

posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: wshadow1

I won't address your personal story, because that's all it is - an anecdote which doesn't necessarily speak to an overall issue of institutional racism. I could share my own anecdote of visiting Chicago, and getting lost on the south side, on a bus, and being treated with kindness and friendliness by the blacks on that bus. But that's just my own personal experience. Your mileage might vary.

But I will address your point about socialism. Because you are incorrect. Socialism isn't about taking from the hard workers and giving it all to the lazy ones. That is false.

Remember the French Revolution? Remember how the commoners were the ones paying all the taxes, where the nobility and clergy were exempt? Remember how the King was spending millions on luxury palaces for himself and his fellow noble class? Remember when Marie Antoinette was spending (today's equivalent of) millions of dollars on shoes, silk dresses and fancy parties, while the hard-working, tax-paying commoners were starving? Do you think those commoners were wrong for revolting? Do you think when the commoners were demanding that the small group of nobility pay their fair share of taxes and spend some of that money on improving everyone's situation instead of just on the nobles' palaces and shoes - do you think it was wrong for the commoners to react that way? Do you think the commoners were just being lazy for wanting the rich nobles (who got rich off of the commoners) to share some of the wealth in order to stop the suffering? Do you think those commoners should have just "gotten off their butts and done something to improve their situation"? What were the commoners supposed to do to "fix it"?

Corruption happens. It's not just about depending on the government. It's not about making everyone have the exact equal amount of wealth. It's about holding your government responsible for allowing corruption to continue, so that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. THAT is what democratic socialism is really about.



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Wouldn't affirmative action constitute institutional racism?



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: grumpy64

Check your privilege! Thats not the kind of poor hes talking about

Black Sabbath Matters



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv




Remember the French Revolution?


Sure do.

The leading instigator Robespierre lost his own head in the end.

There is an object lesson to be learned from that.



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

If you're into ass-backwards logic, then I suppose.

Affirmitive Action

So really this depends on what you are referring to when you say "affirmitive action". Look to the origins of the policy. At it's start, it was most definitely not institutional racism. Only a very warped mind would see it this way.

Now, things change over time. Do I agree with how the policy has been shaped and is currently used? Not really.
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posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv




Corruption happens. It's not just about depending on the government. It's not about making everyone have the exact equal amount of wealth. It's about holding your government responsible for allowing corruption to continue, so that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. THAT is what democratic socialism is really about.


And who is going to hold them acountable? They arent being held accountable NOW, and you think under "democratic socialism" where the gov is even BIGGER that they will be?

Because the ones who write the rules and implement the rules on an even larger gov scale if Bernie gets his way, are going to hold themselves accountable?

Yeah, not so much



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: pl3bscheese

Then why not?



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

If you're into ass-backwards logic, then I suppose.


actually by definition , he would be correct




Institutional racism (also known as institutionalised racism) is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions, as distinct from racism by individuals or informal social groups.It is reflected in disparities regarding criminal justice, employment, housing, health care, political power and education, among other things

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posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Most definitely not. Look at what you just linked! It's a means to rid institutional racism. Wow how warped some people are.



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:57 AM
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And..... president obama does?????

I betcha there are plenty of black people out there that aren't waking up in the middle of the night panicking over how they are going to have the money to pay their rent, and plenty of white people who are.. just who are we serving when we try to deny that poverty is color blind? it certainly isn't the blacks, since we seem to have built a great defense for allowing them to live in poverty and have given them a great excuse to stay there. it certainly isn't all those homeless white vets out there who have served our country so bravely just to come home broken and uncared for.

We should put those burkas to good use, have an experiment, gather about a 100 volunteers together to work on a project to live together, work together. insist that they can't be by the others without the burka on, their face painted green, their hands gloved, the only thing differentiating them being the name tag each of them wear. Then, at the end of their project, have them all unmask and meet each other and reveal a little about themselves and their lives .. and well, fill out survey to see if they were surprised or learned anything.



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

True, most in Congress are part of the corruption.

That's why Bernie's whole platform is "political revolution". He knows he can't stop a corrupt Congress on his own. It's up to us to get them out of there and vote new people in, who are truly accountable to US, the people.



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: pl3bscheese

Instititutions, policies and laws discriminating according to race. That's institutional racism in every sense. It would take a warped mind who enjoys backward logic to say otherwise.



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: pl3bscheese




If you're into ass-backwards logic, then I suppose.


Affirmative Actions is backwards 'logic'.

In fact it is a RACIST policy.

Imagine by law employers are FORCED to give a person a job.

The only requirement is skin color.

Doesn't matter if they have the skills or not.

By law instant employment!



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: kaylaluv

Wouldn't affirmative action constitute institutional racism?


Affirmative action was intended to stop existing institutional racism. Do you think institutional racism should have been allowed to continue? Was there a better solution to stop it? What would that be?



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

They are safeguards against discrimination according to race. You're looking at this from the current terrain, disregarding the time-period in which the policy was originated. It's either in very poor taste, or just outright ignorant.



posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: burgerbuddy

Im with you. Poor is a state of mind. I think i am below the poverty line right now and honestly? Im doing fine with it.



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