Bernie Sanders - 'When You're White You Don't Know What It's Like To Be Poor'

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Most definitely not. Look at what you just linked! It's a means to rid institutional racism. Wow how warped some people are.

This statement is rich with Irony....

Also your personal attacks change nothing....

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: pl3bscheese

If you're into ass-backwards logic, then I suppose.

Affirmative Actions is backwards 'logic'.

In fact it is a RACIST policy.

Imagine by law employers are FORCED to give a person a job.

The only requirement is skin color.

Doesn't matter if they have the skills or not.

By law instant employment!

Exactly.

Fighting racism with racism doesn't help anyone!

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: pl3bscheese

If you're into ass-backwards logic, then I suppose.

Affirmative Actions is backwards 'logic'.

In fact it is a RACIST policy.

Imagine by law employers are FORCED to give a person a job.

The only requirement is skin color.

Doesn't matter if they have the skills or not.

By law instant employment!

It fights subconscious racism.

If the laws didn't exist, qualified blacks everywhere would be unemployed. The country is still too racist.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

True, most in Congress are part of the corruption.

That's why Bernie's whole platform is "political revolution". He knows he can't stop a corrupt Congress on his own. It's up to us to get them out of there and vote new people in, who are truly accountable to US, the people.

I will say this, something definitely needs to be done, and I would definitely support Bernie over Trump......

I think Bernies intentions are honest, I might not agree with his policies, but I dont feel anything he does is out of malice or personal gain

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

It's not a personal attack, it's a perception of your state of mind.

Man, ATS has some of the most warped minds I've ever witnessed in my online discussions. It's just so baffling.

originally posted by: lightedhype
a reply to: burgerbuddy

Im with you. Poor is a state of mind. I think i am below the poverty line right now and honestly? Im doing fine with it.

There's poor, and then there is POOR.

a reply to: THEatsking

It fights subconscious racism.

If the laws didn't exist, qualified blacks everywhere would be unemployed. The country is still too racist.

Holy crap, more "terminology" for people to play with....

You cant legislate peoples thoughts, you start doing that and youll soon be the victim of the very thing you champion......

All these people on the left (those friends on here know im not referring to them) who advocate for more and more control mechanisms for increasingly more facets of human behavior are tightening the rope around their own necks..

Look at whats happening to the colleges just this year, its backfiring in a major way, on a larger scale it would be catastrophic

a reply to: THEatsking

It fights subconscious racism.

There is not nor will there ever be a law that 'changes' what's in a persons heart.

The only thing laws like that do is run it 'underground'.

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

It's not a personal attack, it's a perception of your state of mind.

Man, ATS has some of the most warped minds I've ever witnessed in my online discussions. It's just so baffling.

It's not a personal attack, it's a perception of your state of mind.

So , a personal attack lol

Man, ATS has some of the most warped minds I've ever witnessed in my online discussions. It's just so baffling.

Must be just horrible to have to deal with people with a different perspective.........truly frightening

Hopefully this kills Comrade Sanders campaign.

a reply to: rockdisjoint2

LOL's!

I guess I will donate more to Sen Sanders campaign, comrade Sanders does have a ring to it.

Much better than little hands Trump.

So the link I brought forth has a lot of valid points:

The Affirmative Action Debate


The use of race as a factor in the college admissions process has been, and continues to be, a hotly debated topic.
Supporters of affirmative action make the following arguments:


Affirmative action is more of a process than just an admissions policy. Colleges and universities reach out to groups that are underrepresented and urge students to apply. Institutions often offer financial aid to underrepresented students and provide on-campus support programs to improve their academic success.


Affirmative action programs have resulted in doubling or tripling the number of minority applications to colleges or universities, and have made colleges and universities more representative of their surrounding community. Statistics show that after California abolished its affirmative action programs in 1998, the minority student admissions at UC Berkeley fell 61 percent, and minority admissions at UCLA fell 36 percent. After Texas abolished its affirmative action program in 1996, Rice University's freshman class had 46 percent fewer African-Americans and 22 percent fewer Hispanic students.
Graduates who benefited from affirmative action programs say that they have received better jobs, earned more money, and ultimately are living better lives because of the opportunity they received.


Diversity in higher education provides an educational advantage for all students, both personally and intellectually. We exist in a global, multicultural society, and in order to achieve success, employers and employees must be able to work effectively with the diverse society that surrounds them.


Affirmative action policies are necessary in order to compensate for centuries of racial, social, and economic oppression. Generally, individuals with higher socioeconomic status have more opportunities than those from lower socioeconomic backgrounds. Supporters believe that certain racial or ethnic groups are disadvantaged because they are frequently in lower income brackets and consequently are not exposed to the same resources as students from higher socioeconomic classes. Advocates support the notion of competition between students based on merit, but argue that affirmative action compensates for economic disparities.



Critics of affirmative action make the following arguments:

Affirmative action was created to ensure fair admission practices and to rectify a long period of racial discrimination. The policy is outdated, however, and causes a form of reverse discrimination by favoring one group over another, based on racial preference rather than academic achievement. Further, there is concern that minority groups may be stigmatized and treated differently by peers and professors who may believe that the success of minority groups in higher education institutions is unearned.


Affirmative action may be unconstitutional under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. Likewise, the programs may be illegal under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits discrimination based on race, color or national origin by recipients of federal financial assistance.

Affirmative action policies lower standards and make students less accountable. If standards for test scores, grade point average, etc. are lowered for underrepresented groups, it is argued that these students will only strive to meet the lower requirements.

Affirmative action policies do not necessarily help economically disadvantaged students. A study by the Hoover Institution found that affirmative action tends to benefit middle- and upper-class minorities.

Many opponents believe that diversity in higher education is extremely important, but that affirmative action only serves to amplify racial prejudice. Because there is no correlation between skin color and intelligence, affirmative action programs are unnecessary. Moreover, affirmative action programs are condescending to the underrepresented groups since it is implied that the groups need affirmative action in order to succeed in higher education.

States should focus on other policies or programs that encourage equal opportunity, such as setting high expectations for all students and improving their college readiness.

I see the pro's and con's as both being legitimate concerns.

What I'm not okay with is in pigeon-holing a policy into a black and white view which disregards it's roots.

There are countless policies which have been mishandled, and abused, once bringing about liberty, twisted into a means of tyranny.

Affirmative action is not currently in practice the same as it was when introduced, and interests have gamed this policy into a new beast.

To look at this recent outcome and stick to black and white reasoning is very narrow-minded and overly simplistic.

You either get this or you don't. I don't care to debate the matter any further.

Nobody understands the poor better than Hillary.
The Clintons were "Dirt Poor" when they left the White House, don't ya know.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Nobody understands the poor better than Hillary.
The Clintons were "Dirt Poor" when they left the White House, don't ya know.

Lets go one better.

Sanders is WHITE.

Now if WHITE people have no idea of what it 'means' to be poor.

That means Sanders doesn't know himself.

LOL.

originally posted by: pl3bscheese

Affirmative action is not currently in practice the same as it was when introduced, and interests have gamed this policy into a new beast.

To look at this recent outcome and stick to black and white reasoning is very narrow-minded and overly simplistic.

I would agree with this.

Heee. This thread fills me with glee. Ever since I got invested in politics...what 24 years ago? *cringes with horror* I might be getting a little old. Anyway, ever since then whenever I'd get invested in a candidate I'd always be waiting for the other shoe to drop. I'd be waiting to find out they take bribes from Satan, or like to have sex with kids, or insert any other awful thing.

But this time...no. They've got nothing! Literally the only things they've got are:

-he's old = nobody cares
-he's a communist, Marxist, socialist, pinko = you're dumb, no he's not, nobody cares
-he said white people don't know what it means to be poor! = He was talking about institutional racism, duh, he grew up WHITE and POOR, nobody cares.

By all means cling to the tips of that straw. I've got some coping techniques available for anyone who can't control their rising panic. I honed them through two W presidencies and the last 6 months of watching a segment of my countrymen lose their GD minds over Donald TRUMP.

originally posted by: Malynn
I'd be waiting to find out they take bribes from Satan, or like to have sex with kids, or insert any other awful thing.

...I sincerely doubt we'll find out Bernie inserts other awful things. Hillary?....not so sure.

a reply to: AlaskanDad

It's your money do what you want with it, but just know it's a horrible investment.

Bums in this country make better dough panhandling than ten third world families..

originally posted by: rockdisjoint2
Hopefully this kills Comrade Sanders campaign.

I wouldn't count on it. Its not like his supporters will care. If he were to somehow win the nomination, though, those words will make a fantastic campaign ad for his Republican opponent and the GOP House/Senate candidates in rural districts.