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What's the difference between Black Lives Matter and the Oregon militia?

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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777

Have the names of the law enforcement officers that shot Lavoy Finicum been released, doesn't that usually happen?


They're being withheld pending notification from the contractor management legal advisors.





posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

The autopsy said so.




posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Spider879

Lol, "11 misconceptions about black lives matter" brought to you by blacklivesmatter dot com... BRILLIANT! Totally unbiased too I'm sure. Heh.

Yes I prefer to let them speak for themselves than to let media or their opponents speak for them, I am sure you would want the Tea Party's or the Militia to explain their own views rather than through someone else's filter.


So if the KKK released a statement as to how they're commonly misunderstood and it was posted on their own website, you would believe it? Were you ok with Darren Wilson being investigated by the Ferguson Police Department?


The official statement of the KKK and other White supremacist groups are very clear about their goals, there is no mucking about who they are and what they represents.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: buster2010

If the kid was armed then why did he try to grab the cops gun?


He was hopped up.

Capable of anything.


Yes THC makes people extremely violent.


Correct.




posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:19 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: TheBulk



That the cop didn't know the guy just robbed a place? Are you seriously suggesting that if the cop didn't know, it never happened?

I'm not suggesting that he didn't know it is FACT that he didn't know.


Yeah, no kidding. He was approached by Wilson because he was walking in the middle of the street and cars were having to drive around him.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: LSU0408

Crazy I know, but so is the Tea Party so I wouldn't put it past them, they are capable of much worse. All they want to do is instill "American VAlues" into America. That means they do not want gays to marry and they want everyone to be a Christian. Who knows what they would do to the poor trannies, probably lock them up in an insane asylum. And the public schools would be forced to brain-wash children into being Christians. Wasn't there a lady just a week ago that said she would make church attendance mandatory if she were elected?

Just saying its possible, very possible.



Man, I'm a hard right Conservative and a Christian and even I wouldn't go for that. I haven't heard about the mandatory church attendance, I'd be in trouble too if that were to happen because I don't attend regularly. As far as gays and trannies and all of that, you've just been scared into thinking they'd do horrible things with them. Don't hold your breath on any wrongdoings, my friend.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: Spider879

Being disruptive outside of businesses is one thing, but being disruptive by blocking traffic in streets and on interstates is a whole new ballgame. Nice drawring, did you do that?



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

The autopsy said so.



No, that's not what the autopsy said.

Hers another chance:

So, deadlier weapon: man's fist - speeding truck?



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

Keep fooling yourself, I don't expect an unbiased approach from you anyways. Never have.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Spider879

Being disruptive outside of businesses is one thing, but being disruptive by blocking traffic in streets and on interstates is a whole new ballgame. Nice drawring, did you do that?

What Iam saying it's not new, truckers do it all the time when they protest, protest was meant to be disruptive it's an effective tool used to bring people out of their complacency and draw attention to their cause, heck unions were doing much the same about 100yrs ago.
No that was of the Boston Massacre, I used as part of my history thread.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:37 PM
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Someone accurately stated "blm isn't a movement. They're militant racists posing as activists. Facts don't matter. Any reason to demonize white people, they're on board." Want to know what happened at SUNY in Albany? You probably won't hear about it, since it was yet another BLM fraud. Unfortunately they didn't count on the bus having it's own video cameras and audio. the movement lacks any integrity toward it's own vision. That's a pretty big difference.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:38 PM
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Not being from the USA I don't really understand the intricacies of either protest. From an outsiders PoV the differences seemed obvious and a great example of White privilige.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: veracity

So you're potential outcome isn't nearly as bad as what's currently happening with Muslims. How would you feel if a muslim was running for a political office? Would you be worried about beheadings in the streets? Burning people alive? No women's rights? Stoning gays? You can say "no true scotsman" all you like, but it's happening. Nice to know you're more concerned with doom porn than reality though.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

They didn't shut down over threats. They closed on their own, at their own discretion. The people in the Oregon deal stated, plainly, "We will be here as long as it takes," Bundy said. "We have no intentions of using force upon anyone, (but) if force is used against us, we would defend ourselves."

Some people were scared for absolutely no reason.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: neveroddoreven99
Someone accurately stated "blm isn't a movement. They're militant racists posing as activists. Facts don't matter. Any reason to demonize white people, they're on board." Want to know what happened at SUNY in Albany? You probably won't hear about it, since it was yet another BLM fraud. Unfortunately they didn't count on the bus having it's own video cameras and audio. the movement lacks any integrity toward it's own vision. That's a pretty big difference.


No someone inaccurately stated that BLM is not a movement.
then right after that you said. the movement lacks any integrity toward it's own vision


Any reason white people have to demonize other white people, they're on board.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

You... do know that THC is Tetrahydrocannabinol, right? The active narcotic agent in marijuana? That it does the opposite of what you're claiming it does (unless the victim is a bag of doritos.)
edit on 4-2-2016 by TheTengriist because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: Spider879

Right, so if they released a statement as to how they're commonly misunderstood and it was posted on their own website, you would believe it?



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: neveroddoreven99

not comparable



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

The autopsy said so.



No, that's not what the autopsy said.

Hers another chance:

So, deadlier weapon: man's fist - speeding truck?


Yes, that's exactly what the autopsy said.

www.cnsnews.com...


Michael Brown had THC, a behavior-altering substance found in marijuana, in his system when he was killed on August 9th by Ferguson, Missouri, police officer Darren Wilson, according to a toxicology report performed at a St. Louis University lab.
The toxicology screen, which was done on Aug. 10th, found “12 nanograms/ML of Delta-9-THC”, the primary psychoactive ingredient in pot, in Brown’s bloodstream at the time of his death.

This amount of Delta-9-THC in Brown's blood was more than twice the amount that in Washington State--where marijuana is legal--would allow someone to be arrested for driving under the influence.

“Delta-9-THC detection in the blood defines impairment,” according to the report.

THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol) “seriously impairs judgment and motor coordination,” according to the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

And because 5 nanograms of THC causes approximately the same level of impairment as an 0.08 percent blood alcohol level, drivers with THC levels above 5ng/ML in Washington State – where smoking marijuana will be legal on Dec. 6th – can be prosecuted under the state’s DUI laws.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Spider879

Being disruptive outside of businesses is one thing, but being disruptive by blocking traffic in streets and on interstates is a whole new ballgame. Nice drawring, did you do that?

What Iam saying it's not new, truckers do it all the time when they protest, protest was meant to be disruptive it's an effective tool used to bring people out of their complacency and draw attention to their cause, heck unions were doing much the same about 100yrs ago.
No that was of the Boston Massacre, I used as part of my history thread.


I understand what you're saying, but where I find a difference is holding up traffic and making people late for their job, or late getting home to their 13 year old child that just got off the bus, etc. Protesting should be done in front of the places you're protesting, but not to hold innocent people up and block their route of travel. That's just going to piss them off and make them dislike the cause.



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