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Which boys who set the fire? The BLM who destroyed cattle and damaged ranches with their fires, or the Bundies who caused max $200 damages if any? Both of the cases seem obviously civil rather than criminal, so why do you think they are criminal cases?
originally posted by: Sillyosaurus
This is my two cents. I believe black lives matter. I believe the boys who set the fire should have served time. The Oregon ordeal was a bit of a bad excuse for a good reason. That being said bundy and co barricaded themselves in an obscure location and sent a list of demands to the federal government.
The black lives matter movement catches my attention every time they interrupt something else I'm trying to watch like BLM bring the ruckus.
They have a better excuse to the same good cause but it is a tactical difference that is most apparent in my eyes.
When is the last time that happened? I know the cops pointed guns at them the other day a number of times, and opened fire a number of times. You may be mistaking cops for the Bundy family.
originally posted by: TheTengriist
a reply to: Swills
Well, there's the fact the Bundy Bunch are "protesting" because they were told they weren't allowed to break the law anymore. Also apparently they're allowed to point rifles at federal marshals with no repercussions. Not even a stern warning. And when illegally occupying more federal land, the feds allow them to come and go as they please.
originally posted by: Sillyosaurus
a reply to: centarix
For the crimes of arson they plead guilty for. Umm a judge suspended their sentence and another said they have to go in. Legal stuff. Last I checked the brothers turned themselves in a long time ago and I'm sure that were bummed about going to jail but technically they broke the law. The rest is in the hands of the judicial system. Ummm. Have you read up on this story or are you trolling
Edit: I consider the fact they did in fact light fires in federal property the reason it was a bad excuse for a protest. They may have saved thier property but they broke the law. That is the point of civil disobedience at that. An act is good but illegal. Therefore if one does that aforementioned good but is caught he goes to jail and serves time to let everyone know he did good and is punished. Maybe laws need to change. But I'm drifting off track.
originally posted by: Sillyosaurus
a reply to: Cygnis
I would set back fires and hire a good lawyer to plead the case to the judge. Cases are won and lost. Honestly I have not read the transcripts of the trial but the men were found guilty. Do I agree with the fallout of the official story? (Yes there are alternate stories which amount to hearsay). No I do not think the men should spend ten years in jail. But was that whole thing worth a man loosing his life? I don't think so. Our actions have consequences.