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What's the difference between Black Lives Matter and the Oregon militia?

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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 02:06 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyosaurus
a reply to: Cygnis

I know. Murder gets double jeopardy... Anyways we are derailing the thread.




indeed we are.. Apologies, OP.




posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 02:18 AM
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a reply to: Swills

I'm sure I'll catch it for this, but the militia doesn't loot and riot to get their point across.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 02:28 AM
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Most of us here understand and agree the authorities, TPTB are out of control but the divide is not going to solve that problem, in fact it only makes it worse. And that's exactly what they want. So when can we throw our petty political differences aside, prejudices, and come together to solve this problem?


The sad and most unfortunate fact is many are aware that the authorities in power want us divided, but once they realize whom they would have to unite with in order to take back the freedoms and privileges many of them would rather die fighting for their own political agendas than fight for the common good of all.
It's the sad..sad reality of all of this.

This divide can only be blamed on the American people, many of them refuse to comprise even on some of the most inconsequential political issues i.e Race,Sex and Gay rights.

A comprise is the only way to unity and to defeat the corruption that has plagued the nation. However if I was a gambling man I would put my money on the TPTB. The American people are a hopeless bunch....



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 02:51 AM
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a reply to: Swills
What's the difference between Black Lives Matter and the Oregon militia?
Ans: Cognitive dissonance.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 03:02 AM
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What's the difference between Black Lives Matter and the Oregon militia?

One is a group of black people that hate white people and are the very epitome' of "do as I say, not as I do".

The other is a group of multicultural people that want to reign-in big government and remind them that the government works for the people and not the other way around.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 03:18 AM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

So the Black lives matter group hates Whites because they want to be treated the same way police treat white people?



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 03:30 AM
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Oh, no...this movement has gone waaaaaaaaaaay beyond wanting equal rights and fair treatment from law enforcement - they push the white privilege meme to the nth degree and are vocally anti-white - not "equal rights for blacks"

BIG difference.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 04:26 AM
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originally posted by: muse7
a reply to: Sublimecraft

So the Black lives matter group hates Whites because they want to be treated the same way police treat white people?


Have you ever heard of Kelly Thomas?



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 05:23 AM
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a reply to: Swills

BLM promotes racial segregation.
BLM attacks people based on skin color.
BLM promotes violence and destruction of property.
BLM threatens people based on skin color.

Oregon ranchers hurt nobody.
Oregon ranchers aren't racists.
Oregon ranchers have a legitimate claim.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 05:25 AM
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originally posted by: muse7
a reply to: Sublimecraft

So the Black lives matter group hates Whites because they want to be treated the same way police treat white people?

no I think it has more to do with their promotion of racial segregation, their racial attacks on people based on skin color, their concern with black lives ONLY if it involves white people and their inconsistent interest in the larger problem of black on black murder.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 05:57 AM
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One is black the other white. But I still see grey in both parties



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 06:13 AM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
Oh, no...this movement has gone waaaaaaaaaaay beyond wanting equal rights and fair treatment from law enforcement - they push the white privilege meme to the nth degree and are vocally anti-white - not "equal rights for blacks"

BIG difference.

The Oregon protest is the very definition of white privilege. Do you think if any other group of people had taken over a federal building the same way these drama queens did they would be treated the same way?



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 06:29 AM
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a reply to: RickyD




Wtf have I done?



You're white for God's sake! You are responsible for anything and everything that's been done to these people. It makes no difference that you weren't there 200 years ago have done nothing to make their situation worse. It doesn't even matter if you are on their side. You're white... You're guilty.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 06:54 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
Oh, no...this movement has gone waaaaaaaaaaay beyond wanting equal rights and fair treatment from law enforcement - they push the white privilege meme to the nth degree and are vocally anti-white - not "equal rights for blacks"

BIG difference.

The Oregon protest is the very definition of white privilege. Do you think if any other group of people had taken over a federal building the same way these drama queens did they would be treated the same way?
you guys keep saying "federal building", but its a shack in the middle of nowhere. BLM is blatantly racist and aggressive, but still get promoted and defended by the left and media. Is that black privilege? When white people are shot by cops its no big deal. When black people are shot by cops (even when they just robbed a store on camera), there is national outrage. Black privilege?
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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 07:04 AM
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BLM promotes racial segregation.
BLM attacks people based on skin color.
BLM promotes violence and destruction of property.
BLM threatens people based on skin color.
BLM promotes racial segregation.
BLM attacks people based on skin color.
BLM promotes violence and destruction of property.
BLM threatens people based on skin color.

Oh do they now??

11 Major Misconceptions About the Black Lives Matter Movement

1. The movement doesn’t care about black-on-black crime. The idea that black-on-black crime is not a significant political conversation among black people is patently false.

2. It’s a leaderless movement. The Black Lives Matter movement is a leaderfull movement. Many Americans of all races are enamored with Martin Luther King as a symbol of leadership and what real movements look like.

3. The movement has no agenda. Many believe the Black Lives Matter movement has no agenda — other than yelling and protesting and disrupting the lives of white people. This is also false.

4. It’s a one-issue movement. Although it is true that much of the protesting to date has been centered on the issue of police brutality, there is a range of issues that movement work will likely push in years to come. One is the issue of our failing system of public education, which is a virtual school-to-prison pipeline for many black youth.

5. The movement has no respect for elders. The BLM movement is an intergenerational movement.

6. The black church has no role to play.

7. The movement does not care about queer or trans lives.

8. The movement hates white people. The statement “black lives matter” is not an anti-white proposition. Contained within the statement is an unspoken but implied “too,” as in “black lives matter, too,” which suggests that the statement is one of inclusion rather than exclusion. However, those white people who continue to mischaracterize the affirmation of the value of black life as being anti-white are suggesting that in order for white lives to matter, black lives cannot.

9. The movement hates police officers. Police officers are people. Their lives have inherent value. This movement is not an anti-people movement; therefore it is not an anti-police-officer movement. Most police officers are just everyday people who want to do their jobs, make a living for their families, and come home safely at the end of their shift.

10. The movement’s primary goal should be the vote. Recently the Democratic National Committee endorsed the Black Lives Matter movement. The BLM network swiftly rejected that endorsement. While voting certainly matters, particularly in local municipalities like Ferguson, movement members are clear that voting for policies and politicians whose ultimate goal is to maintain a rotten and unjust system is counterproductive.

11. There’s not actually a movement at all. Until Bernie Sanders sought the attention of Black Lives Matter participants, many were wont to acknowledge that a new racial justice movement even existed.
blacklivesmatter.com...


Critics and police organizations have portrayed Black Lives Matter as radical, anti-police, and anti-white. But the policies Campaign Zero is pushing are none of those things. Instead, they’re practical, well-thought out, and in most cases, achievable. Most will also directly benefit everyone — not just black people.
www.washingtonpost.com...

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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 07:10 AM
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originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: TheBulk




BLM promotes racial segregation.
BLM attacks people based on skin color.
BLM promotes violence and destruction of property.
BLM threatens people based on skin color.
BLM promotes racial segregation.
BLM attacks people based on skin color.
BLM promotes violence and destruction of property.
BLM threatens people based on skin color.

Oh do they now??

11 Major Misconceptions About the Black Lives Matter Movement

1. The movement doesn’t care about black-on-black crime. The idea that black-on-black crime is not a significant political conversation among black people is patently false.

2. It’s a leaderless movement. The Black Lives Matter movement is a leaderfull movement. Many Americans of all races are enamored with Martin Luther King as a symbol of leadership and what real movements look like.

3. The movement has no agenda. Many believe the Black Lives Matter movement has no agenda — other than yelling and protesting and disrupting the lives of white people. This is also false.

4. It’s a one-issue movement. Although it is true that much of the protesting to date has been centered on the issue of police brutality, there is a range of issues that movement work will likely push in years to come. One is the issue of our failing system of public education, which is a virtual school-to-prison pipeline for many black youth.

5. The movement has no respect for elders. The BLM movement is an intergenerational movement.

6. The black church has no role to play.

7. The movement does not care about queer or trans lives.

8. The movement hates white people. The statement “black lives matter” is not an anti-white proposition. Contained within the statement is an unspoken but implied “too,” as in “black lives matter, too,” which suggests that the statement is one of inclusion rather than exclusion. However, those white people who continue to mischaracterize the affirmation of the value of black life as being anti-white are suggesting that in order for white lives to matter, black lives cannot.

9. The movement hates police officers. Police officers are people. Their lives have inherent value. This movement is not an anti-people movement; therefore it is not an anti-police-officer movement. Most police officers are just everyday people who want to do their jobs, make a living for their families, and come home safely at the end of their shift.

10. The movement’s primary goal should be the vote. Recently the Democratic National Committee endorsed the Black Lives Matter movement. The BLM network swiftly rejected that endorsement. While voting certainly matters, particularly in local municipalities like Ferguson, movement members are clear that voting for policies and politicians whose ultimate goal is to maintain a rotten and unjust system is counterproductive.

11. There’s not actually a movement at all. Until Bernie Sanders sought the attention of Black Lives Matter participants, many were wont to acknowledge that a new racial justice movement even existed.
blacklivesmatter.com...


Critics and police organizations have portrayed Black Lives Matter as radical, anti-police, and anti-white. But the policies Campaign Zero is pushing are none of those things. Instead, they’re practical, well-thought out, and in most cases, achievable. Most will also directly benefit everyone — not just black people.
www.washingtonpost.com...
yes they do. It's documented. These people also seem to have some misconceptions.
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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 07:17 AM
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a reply to: TheBulk

And I have given you their links and statements which are documented, I showed you mine now you show me yours.



BLM promotes racial segregation.
BLM attacks people based on skin color.
BLM promotes violence and destruction of property.
BLM threatens people based on skin color.
BLM promotes racial segregation.
BLM attacks people based on skin color.
BLM promotes violence and destruction of property.
BLM threatens people based on skin color.

Pls Back up the above with their stated positions and no! some random rioting Black will not do, also non affiliated Orgs that open carry like the New Black Panther Party will not do either..
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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: Swills

There are two main differences that I see: One is urban and one is rural. Since the dawn of civilization, rural and urban cultures have clashed, as one doesn't understand the other, and have different wants and needs.

The other is how the media and politicians and others with an agenda play them... and all of us. And it works every time. If we can't even come together to say, "Yes, Black Lives Matters, Oregon Protesters Lives Matters, EVERYONE'S lives matter," and work together, protect each other, take care of each other, then we deserve what we get.

Divide-and-conquer.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: Spider879

everybody likes photoshopportunities




posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 08:47 AM
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What's the difference between Black Lives Matter and the Oregon militia?

One group is primarily black and the other is not.



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