White Militias must unite with the BLM type groups

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: Willtell

So are you playing agent provocateur?

What ever your thoughts are on militia's are based upon ignorance. I already received and email today in my state from a militia telling everyone to stand down!

Sounds like they have more sense than you do?

Alex Jones is all about standing down on his show.. A lot of people still listen to him I guess.

But it is the sensible thing to do. Any alternative just gives the cops exactly what they need to enforce law with even less regard for personal rights.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: annalisa2016

He meant the Black Lives Matter movement, not the Bureau of Land Management.

OOPS I thought BLM was some group Bundy belonged to, you know it's hard to keep them all straight.

My point is their will be no revolt, peaceful or not, without the middle and lower classes of all groups coming together.

As long as the elite can separate people their safe.

And in this country, their vey safe because the white middle and lower classes don’t realize their on the chopping block as well as the minorities. If we could unite, change could happen...real change. It doesn’t have to be a bloody revolution just a peoples revolution where we can control the wealth for ourselves and the macro economic wheels.

The problem is they have brainwashed too many people to hate socialism, black people, minorities, and therefore the people remain divided.

You’ve all lost a 401k, you’re children and you can’t get good jobs, they have taken away privacy and other calumnies.

Change will come one way or the other

a reply to: annalisa2016

No worries. Whenever I see 'BLM' abbreviated in a thread title I need to figure out which one they mean.

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: Willtell

So are you playing agent provocateur?

What ever your thoughts are on militia's are based upon ignorance. I already received and email today in my state from a militia telling everyone to stand down!

Sounds like they have more sense than you do?

Agent provocateur?

No, for you can't test the tested.

We need a peaceful revolution based on a unity of grievances and a philosophy of sharing.

Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is just a worse enemy waiting for an opportunity.

a reply to: Willtell

Say BLM and the Militias united, then what?

a reply to: Willtell

Where's a leader of the black community reaching out?

a reply to: Willtell

Ah, I meant to post in this thread but apparently I forgot to. Anyway, there are 2 major reasons why I don't see these types of groups working together. The first is a difference in tactics and the second deals with racism & bigotry.

1. Tactics. The militias love to do armed protests while the minority civil rights groups like to use non-violent means. The militias (like the Bundy gang) have gone even farther by having an armed standoff with the LEOs and an armed takeover of a building. The minority groups know that if we took it to that level, we'd all be killed. Remember, both John Crawford and Tamir Rice were recently killed on sight by LEOs for holding toy guns in an "open carry" State. What do you honestly think would happen to us if a heavily armed group/"gang" of us tried to do what the Bundy gang did?

2. Racism & bigotry. People seem to be forgetting Cliven Bundy's little rant right here:
Yeah, that idiot literally asked whether black people were better off as slaves. Why would a protest movement that's literally trying to get equal treatment from law enforcement & the judicial system ally with someone who thinks we may have been better off as slaves? It's crazy how much people keep overlooking this. I don't care what the Bundy gang is advocating, I'll never support them if they honestly think I'd be better off as a slave.

And then there's the bigotry of Jon Ritzheimer, who was with the Bundy gang in Oregon. Remember, this is the same guy who led armed rallies against mosques and has plenty of anti-Islamic incidences to his name. People may not realize this, but there are almost 2 million African American Muslims (like me ). And we've been a part of our Civil Rights movements & protest movements from the beginning. So why would African American groups with Muslims in our ranks ally ourselves with a guy who is literally leading & calling for armed protests against our mosques?

(Edit: It may be 2 million black Muslims in all of North America, not just in the US. At least 1 & a half million are in the US, but I'm getting conflicting numbers on how many are in the other North American countries. Meh.)

2nd Edit lol: One more thing about Ritzheimer. Remember, he's even supportive of the confederate flag. Once again, why would groups like "Black Lives Matter" ally with him or his colleagues?

I don't believe white people need blacks for anything. White people are a strong majority of the population and control every single power structure. If white people want to do something they don't need blacks to help them, it will get done.

a reply to: Boadicea

Shhh your screwing up the narrative

originally posted by: Kiloj
I don't believe white people need blacks for anything. White people are a strong majority of the population and control every single power structure. If white people want to do something they don't need blacks to help them, it will get done.

Its not about white and black its about right and wrong.

Good and evil

justice and injustice

a reply to: Willtell

Exactly why this will never happen. In Mike brown v derrin Wilson I suppose we have a difference in opinion as to which party is good and which was evil, or who got justice and who didn't. It's easy to conflate our two causes as we're both fighting the system, but the system is so large and nuanced it's both good and evil.