Economic Collapse is imminent. Finalize your preps now.

originally posted by: Gazrok
I'm not usually one to buy into doom and gloom

You shouldve stopped there.

The show must go on. There are plenty of bandaids left in the box. This correction will not lead to the shtf scenario like many choose to believe.

Sorry!

a reply to: six67seven

I just saw a news report on the market and at the end of the report the reporter starred at the camera and said, "don't pull your money out of the market, keep it in, and remember your in it for the long haul".

I guess the news is trying to brainwash people into stopping a market crash.

Can an index go into a bear market?

Buy what you need, and usually consume, rotate and
you just cant go wrong. Really, an occasional jog of
the comfort zone is always a healthy reminder.

And remember that green paper is just fiat,
it wont go far in a "meltdown"

www.express.co.uk...

www.heartland.org...

Here we go....the computers did this.....that's where derivatives came from and as soon as those derivative deals between banks fail in domino fashion......we have the fiat fail....because of not being willing to bail them out.....again.

then the gold and silver will be money again.....how much each person paid in to SS, in the U S....gets some new currency.....backed by a basket of commodities value. cool.......so,

do they already have this new amero or novera.....I made that one up.....do they have them.....already ready.....That's the only hitch....how to re-distribute. with some really pretty looking money....not the drab dull dull drab green on crap darker green.....

a reply to: onequestion

Well, you know what they say about the news, right?

So....

a reply to: six67seven

Yeah someone at the top made sure they try to stop a market crash.

The VIX is also up which is a good indicator of more downturn in the market, the higher the number in this case as of this writing, 27.59 up 1.54 (5.91%) shows how skittish investors are right now, keep an eye on that number, when it goes down the market quiets down, as it goes up, especially over 15, the markets get volatile.

originally posted by: Zarniwoop
a reply to: Gazrok

I know where you are coming from. I lost a significant amount of retirement funds due to preparing for and trying to apply some timeline for the worst. Lesson learned there. I'm not going to do that again, but rather have sensible funds and ride it out. I certainly can't speak for or advise on anyone else's situation though. I do agree that people should prepare as appropriate for down periods. If money becomes worthless and we get to the knives and guns phase, well then I'm not prepared for that and will need to reconsider my options

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As a bit of a lurker in this part of ATS, i just can't
Really understand why anyone gets all riled up
Over various commodities and stock indexes?

I actually kinda am HOPING for the real collapse
Down to the "Guns and Knives" phase!!!
Since I've had PLENTY of real world target
Practise at whacking insurgents, I am
DEFINITELY NOT one of the squeamish
Types when it comes to defending myself
and others...so if "Big Collapse" does
Happen we can start anew!

We can finally get rid of all the politicians
and fascist/statists and be able to drink
our beer on the streets as we see fit!

True anarchy where the rule of the GUN and
Pure Physical strength rule the day...
NOW THAT is MY type of environment!!!

Someone ticks ya off? Whack'em!

Radio playin' too loud? Grenade launcher at ya!

Booze and Buzz on the streets?
Who's gonna stop ya?

A harem? AWESOME!

YUP! Let the collapse come quick!

I am all Locked, Loaded and Prepped
For pretty much a FULL-ON Zombie Apocalypse!!!

Scary world you're envisioning there.

I prepare too, but I've also grown kind of fond of air conditioning, modern medicine, the Internet, etc., so unlike many preppers, I am NOT looking forward to it coming. I prep not just for some future "what if", but for any potential even short-term life upset, as well as often, it's just better for you (like eating my own chickens' eggs, etc.).

a reply to: StargateSG7

A harem? AWESOME!

I'll pass on that.
I can't stand dealing with just one of them any more. If someone forced a harem on me, I'd have to disappear.

originally posted by: Gazrok
Scary world you're envisioning there.

I prepare too, but I've also grown kind of fond of air conditioning, modern medicine, the Internet, etc., so unlike many preppers, I am NOT looking forward to it coming. I prep not just for some future "what if", but for any potential even short-term life upset, as well as often, it's just better for you (like eating my own chickens' eggs, etc.).

lol, that's true. We love the cool apocalypse movies and daydreaming about our awesome successes and victories out there in the wild.

But then you look at some video of Somalia, or Beirut, or New Orleans / Detroit.....and you say "well that would actually suck and not be cool at all". Especially when your loved ones can and will be picked off at any time. And you really are starving and coughing up stuff. You don't win every exchange of gunfire like the walking dead either.....when you get winged it rips out a huge chunk of meat, not the little bandages like on the show.

On the market, we will have to deflate the fake Obama growth that came from giving away free money to banks, and printing endless unbacked paper money. It probably wouldn't be any higher than 10-12 K without the false "successes" created for Obama by Bernanke. But it's like any other correction. You can make the effort to avoid the drop, and try to get back in when it's bottomed out, poised to go back to normal long-term growth.

If Trump gets elected, it will grow nicely, for the right reasons. Since it's 50% psychological, having a successful businessman in the oval office will give us that boost. Investors and companies will expect logical, rational, non-socialist policies.

Been prepping for this for at least 20 years now.
Not much to do but sit back and watch the fireworks.
Or make the fireworks if anyone tries to steal my chickens.

Right now we're looking to get almost 2' of snow in Central Virginia.
I have backups for my backups. Redundancy is a good thing for home preps.
It's also great to have teenage neighbors eager to shovel snow for a few bucks when you're old and broken down.

originally posted by: six67seven
a reply to: onequestion

Well, you know what they say about the news, right?

So....

News?
Nothing
Ever
Worth
Seeing

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Gazrok
Scary world you're envisioning there.

I prepare too, but I've also grown kind of fond of air conditioning, modern medicine, the Internet, etc., so unlike many preppers, I am NOT looking forward to it coming. I prep not just for some future "what if", but for any potential even short-term life upset, as well as often, it's just better for you (like eating my own chickens' eggs, etc.).

lol, that's true. We love the cool apocalypse movies and daydreaming about our awesome successes and victories out there in the wild.

But then you look at some video of Somalia, or Beirut, or New Orleans / Detroit.....and you say "well that would actually suck and not be cool at all". Especially when your loved ones can and will be picked off at any time. And you really are starving and coughing up stuff. You don't win every exchange of gunfire like the walking dead either.....when you get winged it rips out a huge chunk of meat, not the little bandages like on the show.

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You got that!!!

It's kinda hard seeing your buddy with his legs in shreds
or even an "Insurgent" with half his face blown off and
no lower torso at all.

But that is the way it is with Modern Warfare.

Even in World War Two (1939 to 1945) barely
20% of the soldiers saw REAL BATTLE. It was
mostly waiting in houses, buildings and
doing sniping or waiting around in camps.

These days WAR IS FAST AND FURIOUS!

and almost EVERY in-field guy sees action
and sees it FAST! and it's no longer a 10-clip
from a simple rifle like my grandparents but
rather 100-shots from ALL sides and RPG's,
and other nasty stuff --- literally
a battle every 20 minutes!

And you get PRETTY MENTALLY HARDENED
from that pretty fast......so while most of
society suffers, if you've done it --- you can take it!

The cruel irony here is that blood and guts
battle IS rather a bit of an adrenaline rush!
Most won't admit that. But it is!

Mind you, I much prefer my battles from 1.6 KM away
starting with .50 CAL and going UP from there!
...BUT... if necessary, I can get REAL up-close and personal!
So if you're in a war zone --- Always Carry THREE knives on you!
TWO big ones (9 Inch and above!) and a 5 incher! Keep em SHARP
and keep-em close-n-handy! AND of course take as much ammo
as you can carry without endangering your mobility!
Always aim for CENTRE-OF-MASS and then run like
hell and do it again!

Perhaps those 60+ people who control 50% of the world's wealth could, you know, give us all a hand.

Then again...

Meh.

a reply to: StargateSG7

So IF (Big If!) the collapse DOES come to the mainland,
it will be caused by FOOD riots rather than any given
financial calamity. TRUE ANARCHY is really only 9 Meals
(Three Days!) away from America!

Once people start getting hungry ALL BETS ARE OFF
and your WAR ZONE MENTALITY MUST KICK IN ---
KILL EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE WHO IS A THREAT
in your personal and team's safe-zone radius and
make sure it STAYS dead!

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One other tip is to get a decent mask or filter!
In the old days, they say it smelled like
"Cordite and Gunpowder" --- Nowadays
everything smells like BURNING PLASTIC AND RUBBER!

That sharp pungent acidic and acrid
burning smell really gets to you after
a while and it DOESN'T GO AWAY so
get and USE your face mask!

You don't usually use a true full-face
gas mask except in NBC (Nuclear,
Biological or Chemical) circumstances
because they get so hot and sweaty,
but those simple ski-type masks with
the built-in very-flat Charcoal/N95 filter
by the mouth and nose still lets you
breathe easy AND protects against
most of the smell and isn't so hot
and sweaty! -- Protects against
Sand and Dust too!

originally posted by: six67seven

originally posted by: Gazrok
I'm not usually one to buy into doom and gloom

You shouldve stopped there.

The show must go on. There are plenty of bandaids left in the box. This correction will not lead to the shtf scenario like many choose to believe.

Sorry!

Yep. I've been hearing about economic collapse now every quarter for like the past six years, from the likes of Gerald Celente and his ilk. What's happening now is just a correction, no world ending scenario. 401ks will take a hit right now but ride it out.

One key is to not be too loud and proud of what you have. Keep it all under wraps and enjoy the lack of attention. Don't even let the smell of your food float around, figure out how to avoid it.

Lights out, be quiet, stay on the edges during daylight.

Knives are good. So are bows & arrows, and the strongest pellet rifles. Quiet.