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posted on Jan, 22 2016 @ 02:08 PM
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a reply to: pl3bscheese
" ignorant people suck in the fear-mongering propaganda"
Wow you sure showed me.
I think you're showing a little something else as well. That's an interesting outlook on your peers here though.
Meanwhile...


...two mile long traffic jam of oil tankers in Galveston TX recently, the Baltic Dry Index is way down, the Obama administration just announced they won't be renewing coal leases, the stock market is tanking, oil prices have dropped to 1980's era prices, rail shipping is down almost ten percent... the list goes on and on. Individually each of those would normally be cause for concern, but all at once is a little creepy.

It's a growing concern for a lot of 'ignorant people sucking in the fear-mongering propaganda'. Not to mention, Grizzly Adams died.




posted on Jan, 22 2016 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: twitchy

Just doing my part to help out.



So I'm trying to understand. Are you pro-coal or something? Are you for higher oil prices?

You know I could show you countless examples of people crying the sky was falling when oil was over $100 a barrel.

What's the common denominator here? Fear of change. Nothing more.
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posted on Jan, 22 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: pl3bscheese
So I'm trying to understand. Are you pro-coal or something? Are you for higher oil prices?


OK, good that's a good start. I'll say it one more time.
(pretend I'm reading it aloud, slowly)


...two mile long traffic jam of oil tankers in Galveston TX recently, the Baltic Dry Index is way down, the Obama administration just announced they won't be renewing coal leases, the stock market is tanking, oil prices have dropped to 1980's era prices, rail shipping is down almost ten percent... the list goes on and on. Individually each of those would normally be cause for concern, but all at once is a little creepy.

While obviously I'm just one of the 'ignorant people sucking in the fear-mongering propaganda', and I do appreciate your concern for my condition, I think that just something like a 10% drop in rail shipping alone would be concerning. I'm not pro-coal, but I'm not too ignorant to realize that coal currently produces 40% of the electricity in this country, do you think a moratorium on future coal leases might have an impact on the energy market?
Do any of your graphs take into account Kurdish Oil tankers running around the gulf of mexico under threat of seizure with their transponders cut off, for instance?
There's some interesting things going on with the energy market and I think a lot of us 'propaganda sucking ignorant folks' gathered here on this thread to discuss it.
Pro-coal... lol



posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 12:20 AM
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machineintelligence posted a thread that here on ATS that is relevant...42 AMERICAN Oil Companies File for BANKRUPTCY 2016 Oil Crash Has Banks Running Scared
Thought I'd post a link between these two threads.



posted on Jan, 27 2016 @ 02:00 AM
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Adding a link to another thread by ATS member machineintelligence...
Gold dilution more than 50% overnight



posted on Jan, 27 2016 @ 03:35 PM
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The price of oil came back up to the trend line.
Federal Reserve obviously wasn't ready for an emergency rate hike cancellation announcement today..
Worst case scenario a correction to 13200 on the Dow???



posted on Jan, 27 2016 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: dogstar23

originally posted by: stevieray
On the market, we will have to deflate the fake Obama growth that came from giving away free money to banks, and printing endless unbacked paper money. It probably wouldn't be any higher than 10-12 K without the false "successes" created for Obama by Bernanke. But it's like any other correction. You can make the effort to avoid the drop, and try to get back in when it's bottomed out, poised to go back to normal long-term growth.

If Trump gets elected, it will grow nicely, for the right reasons. Since it's 50% psychological, having a successful businessman in the oval office will give us that boost. Investors and companies will expect logical, rational, non-socialist policies.


So basically, leverage massive amounts of borrowed money and declare bankruptcy multiple times? Or is there a different aspect of Trump's business acumen I'm missing?

Not sure what Trump has to do with this, but yes, this is exactly what Obama's done with the economy, budget, debt ceiling. And done to the stock market (or had Bernanke do) to give him just one rosy economic stat for 8 years. And it will be gone before he's gone.
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posted on Jan, 27 2016 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: twitchy

Okay really... interesting you would continue to keep this point of view.

Well then, what are we to do when ignorant people suck in the fear-mongering propaganda without trying to critically think their way through... oh I know! We could stick to that thing called reality and keep on keeping on... done.


Market's down 10-12 % since last fall, worst start to a year ever. But please do continue to call others ignorant. Reality is supposed to include everyone and what's actually happening....not just your opinion.



posted on Jan, 27 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: Slichter
The price of oil came back up to the trend line.
Federal Reserve obviously wasn't ready for an emergency rate hike cancellation announcement today..
Worst case scenario a correction to 13200 on the Dow???




I'm guessing 10-12 K. Going from the 6K zone up to 10-12 K through Obama's 8 years would still be a steady rise.

Above that level is based only in the "made for Obama's legacy" shenanigans.

Hey, is your screen name from that great old Ohio State QB and legendary gambler ?



posted on Jan, 27 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: stevieray

I think Janet would scream and we'd see the prime rate at about .05 percent if the Dow dropped that low.

As for the screen name connection to Art Schlichter I'd have to say potentially.
Art Bell may have been related to Lawrence Dale Bell founder of the aircraft company that built some of our UFO's.



posted on Jan, 27 2016 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: stevieray

Yes yes, I know... keep to the same sound bytes that are fed to you... don't critically think... don't analyze reasoning which counters the narrative.

Be a good sheeple, I get this.



posted on Jan, 28 2016 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: stevieray

Yes yes, I know... keep to the same sound bytes that are fed to you... don't critically think... don't analyze reasoning which counters the narrative.

Be a good sheeple, I get this.


Come again....with real content ?



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 09:52 AM
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Worst case scenario a correction to 13200 on the Dow???


Temporary worst case scenarios...My concern in the OP is really more for this year in general. I really was hoping it would be at least 5 or 10 years down the line (the IF is all but assured, the WHEN is more the worry). Unfortunately, current indicators point to sooner rather than the optimism of 5-10 years. I'll be SO glad to be wrong though. Please...world...prove me wrong.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: stevieray

Why? You don't care to listen. It's a waste of time.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: Gazrok

13,5 is not collapse, or doom, it's closer to reality. The average boom and bust is 7 year cycles historically. We're overdue. To want the bubble to further inflate over time is asking for even larger correction.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 10:00 AM
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Wa reply to: NateTheAnimator

What, you and most people don't realize is banks have leveraged themselves 30 times or more, relatively small losses as low as 4 to 5 percent can use up all their reserves.

One large bank failure - and Deutsche bank is in trouble - and it can cause a huge chain reaction worldwide due to derivative exposure. This is what happened with Lehman in 2008 and we are much less capable of dealing with it now than we were than.

Virtually every industrialized nation is in heavy debt, none of these governments can really afford to bail out the banks other than through massive money creation, which would cause massive inflation, and destroy the economy further.

The ridiculous amounts of debt in the system will destroy it, it is only a matter of time, and the market is beginning to ignore the central banks frauds, and lies.

The only reason you marginalize the danger is because you are ignorant of it.

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posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: proximo

That massive inflation never happened. Central banks used it as a small reset on big bank loads, and since it stayed out of circulation little inflation was realized. No reason it can't be played again and again if need me. No ignorance here, just perspective.
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posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 11:11 AM
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the markets are troubled...but the gold miners are up 5% on average

who says you cant eat Gold as value increases
the USD did lose a little strength, but that is normal flux in the FOREX...

the recent (all of 2016 so far) has seen a 5% growth in my Funds & should be keeping pace with the inflation of food prices all year (~ 12% est)

I got a bloodshot eye on the ongoing news from NK about arming and fueling up an ICBM at the USA before valentines day no less

otherwise its the same-old-same-old of open asylum & immigration by Jihadists into all American communities by the idiot Elites in government who are dead sure they will be spared from the bloodfest the invited Jihad initiates in a invaded USA... Pelosi and the rest of the Obama clique that are Pro-Islam won't be in the front-of-the-line but they will surly be in the heads-off lineup at the tail end of the takeover by Islam of America




posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 09:59 AM
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Got my chill, how about you?


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posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: pl3bscheese

I don't much about this subject. But the graph reminds me of the process of erosion. Starts at the top and erodes down.




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