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posted on Jan, 7 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: akushla99
It's telling, that, from the OP onwards - the passage being discussed has not only been skirted in its written form, but, the words used have been duly altered to be read differently than It Is Written.

This is the passage:

"Let US make mankind in OUR image" (or variations that do not change the possessive sense).

The word 'Image' may be up for debate - but in the interests of intellectual honesty, the passage should be quoted correctly by xtians and non, alike...if it is not (and it hasn't been referenced correctly) the discussion is an exercise in excuse-making and outright shimmying.

The use of 'Our' and 'Us' is no mistake...and the fact that all versions do not alter this is not a mistake, otherwise 'the word of God' would have been corrected, like many other passages...as if 'the word of God' needed correcting...

Å99


THE WORD OF GOD....a philosophical review of the cause and effect science practice that attacked life from the use and applications of alchemy of the stone nuclear from the Egyptian BOOK OF THE DEAD.

Science advising a scientist of the occult how wrong he was, and a science demonstrating to another scientist that he is wrong can only be advised by a use of the same information, yet factoring the cause and effect outcomes called REVELATIONS, to the Abomination of the Mother.

The Occultists claimed that Earth stone was a Mother....that the atmospheric Veil condition was a Mother, that Nature was a Mother.....yet the ONLY MOTHER THAT WAS HOLY, was their own PHYSICAL MOTHER....their own equal.

Their occult spiritual psyche information was evil....taken from an evil minded self possessed ancient human male who destroyed life. His own information advised him by calculation review as a story of spiritual history that he had in fact destroyed LIFE PREVIOUSLY on ORIGIN EARTH.

Hence although the Bible has information in it aspiring to the conception in Heaven, this story was WRONG.....yet the Bible, known to the holy brothers who wrote it, was a scientific explanation of why this science of PHI destroyed and attacked life.

Science is science...to discuss science sadly you have to use scientific data to review....yet it does not make the data correct, being the MODERN DAY OCCULTIST mistake.....for how dare you consider that murder was a HOLY ACT of a spiritual purpose.....it only demonstrates how evil minded you must be to have accepted that this was a holy statement and not an evil statement.

So we then are forced to review where your brotherhood came from......they are the murderers of the older orders of Roman Christians who enforced the outlawing of occultism itself.

They went into hiding and then attacked the holier brothers who did not allow any occult practice, for they knew that the Heavenly body was a holy body that protected their own life....and when changed it demonstrated all types of phenomena that had attacked them....for they witnessed the manifestation of the evil spirits themselves.

Look into the history of the Roman Catholic Church, and it is why the modern day occultists aspire that our Holy Father gave them reasoning to use scientific methods to attack our spirit....only an occultist would believe this fact. Real spirit is about no change to creation....an already human observed spiritual notification.




posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 01:20 AM
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originally posted by: beenharmed

originally posted by: akushla99
It's telling, that, from the OP onwards - the passage being discussed has not only been skirted in its written form, but, the words used have been duly altered to be read differently than It Is Written.

This is the passage:

"Let US make mankind in OUR image" (or variations that do not change the possessive sense).

The word 'Image' may be up for debate - but in the interests of intellectual honesty, the passage should be quoted correctly by xtians and non, alike...if it is not (and it hasn't been referenced correctly) the discussion is an exercise in excuse-making and outright shimmying.

The use of 'Our' and 'Us' is no mistake...and the fact that all versions do not alter this is not a mistake, otherwise 'the word of God' would have been corrected, like many other passages...as if 'the word of God' needed correcting...

Å99


THE WORD OF GOD....a philosophical review of the cause and effect science practice that attacked life from the use and applications of alchemy of the stone nuclear from the Egyptian BOOK OF THE DEAD.

Science advising a scientist of the occult how wrong he was, and a science demonstrating to another scientist that he is wrong can only be advised by a use of the same information, yet factoring the cause and effect outcomes called REVELATIONS, to the Abomination of the Mother.

The Occultists claimed that Earth stone was a Mother....that the atmospheric Veil condition was a Mother, that Nature was a Mother.....yet the ONLY MOTHER THAT WAS HOLY, was their own PHYSICAL MOTHER....their own equal.

Their occult spiritual psyche information was evil....taken from an evil minded self possessed ancient human male who destroyed life. His own information advised him by calculation review as a story of spiritual history that he had in fact destroyed LIFE PREVIOUSLY on ORIGIN EARTH.

Hence although the Bible has information in it aspiring to the conception in Heaven, this story was WRONG.....yet the Bible, known to the holy brothers who wrote it, was a scientific explanation of why this science of PHI destroyed and attacked life.

Science is science...to discuss science sadly you have to use scientific data to review....yet it does not make the data correct, being the MODERN DAY OCCULTIST mistake.....for how dare you consider that murder was a HOLY ACT of a spiritual purpose.....it only demonstrates how evil minded you must be to have accepted that this was a holy statement and not an evil statement.

So we then are forced to review where your brotherhood came from......they are the murderers of the older orders of Roman Christians who enforced the outlawing of occultism itself.

They went into hiding and then attacked the holier brothers who did not allow any occult practice, for they knew that the Heavenly body was a holy body that protected their own life....and when changed it demonstrated all types of phenomena that had attacked them....for they witnessed the manifestation of the evil spirits themselves.

Look into the history of the Roman Catholic Church, and it is why the modern day occultists aspire that our Holy Father gave them reasoning to use scientific methods to attack our spirit....only an occultist would believe this fact. Real spirit is about no change to creation....an already human observed spiritual notification.


...strangely off-topic...

Without implication, the passage (which does not change in its possessive sense across versions of jenny) does not gel with popularly held notions of One God - the trinity ruse, only serves to confuse this notion - still others are forthright in their singular sense...as if, a patchwork of both stories & main characters had been sewn together into (in this case) a litte golden book A, and a little golden book B.

That there is a deception from some quarter: whether compiler, writer, editor, translater: it cannot be disputed, that the possessive senses used are not accidental, they are either honest mistakes or different stories, at different times...appropriated to appear as a honogenous story with a distinct beginning, middle and blockbuster ending...as a script, the use of changing senses of the person-possessive is clunky and does not help to express the feeling of a unified story, despite it having been lovingly reprinted, with edits (presumably with the green light from God).

Let US make man in OUR image, is an unequivocal statement. The question of 'in the 'image' of whom', x2 or more, should be answered in the context of the passage it is informed by...hence, the elephant in the room...

Å99



posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 01:44 AM
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originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: beenharmed

originally posted by: akushla99
It's telling, that, from the OP onwards - the passage being discussed has not only been skirted in its written form, but, the words used have been duly altered to be read differently than It Is Written.

This is the passage:

"Let US make mankind in OUR image" (or variations that do not change the possessive sense).

The word 'Image' may be up for debate - but in the interests of intellectual honesty, the passage should be quoted correctly by xtians and non, alike...if it is not (and it hasn't been referenced correctly) the discussion is an exercise in excuse-making and outright shimmying.

The use of 'Our' and 'Us' is no mistake...and the fact that all versions do not alter this is not a mistake, otherwise 'the word of God' would have been corrected, like many other passages...as if 'the word of God' needed correcting...

Å99


THE WORD OF GOD....a philosophical review of the cause and effect science practice that attacked life from the use and applications of alchemy of the stone nuclear from the Egyptian BOOK OF THE DEAD.

Science advising a scientist of the occult how wrong he was, and a science demonstrating to another scientist that he is wrong can only be advised by a use of the same information, yet factoring the cause and effect outcomes called REVELATIONS, to the Abomination of the Mother.

The Occultists claimed that Earth stone was a Mother....that the atmospheric Veil condition was a Mother, that Nature was a Mother.....yet the ONLY MOTHER THAT WAS HOLY, was their own PHYSICAL MOTHER....their own equal.

Their occult spiritual psyche information was evil....taken from an evil minded self possessed ancient human male who destroyed life. His own information advised him by calculation review as a story of spiritual history that he had in fact destroyed LIFE PREVIOUSLY on ORIGIN EARTH.

Hence although the Bible has information in it aspiring to the conception in Heaven, this story was WRONG.....yet the Bible, known to the holy brothers who wrote it, was a scientific explanation of why this science of PHI destroyed and attacked life.

Science is science...to discuss science sadly you have to use scientific data to review....yet it does not make the data correct, being the MODERN DAY OCCULTIST mistake.....for how dare you consider that murder was a HOLY ACT of a spiritual purpose.....it only demonstrates how evil minded you must be to have accepted that this was a holy statement and not an evil statement.

So we then are forced to review where your brotherhood came from......they are the murderers of the older orders of Roman Christians who enforced the outlawing of occultism itself.

They went into hiding and then attacked the holier brothers who did not allow any occult practice, for they knew that the Heavenly body was a holy body that protected their own life....and when changed it demonstrated all types of phenomena that had attacked them....for they witnessed the manifestation of the evil spirits themselves.

Look into the history of the Roman Catholic Church, and it is why the modern day occultists aspire that our Holy Father gave them reasoning to use scientific methods to attack our spirit....only an occultist would believe this fact. Real spirit is about no change to creation....an already human observed spiritual notification.


...strangely off-topic...

Without implication, the passage (which does not change in its possessive sense across versions of jenny) does not gel with popularly held notions of One God - the trinity ruse, only serves to confuse this notion - still others are forthright in their singular sense...as if, a patchwork of both stories & main characters had been sewn together into (in this case) a litte golden book A, and a little golden book B.

That there is a deception from some quarter: whether compiler, writer, editor, translater: it cannot be disputed, that the possessive senses used are not accidental, they are either honest mistakes or different stories, at different times...appropriated to appear as a honogenous story with a distinct beginning, middle and blockbuster ending...as a script, the use of changing senses of the person-possessive is clunky and does not help to express the feeling of a unified story, despite it having been lovingly reprinted, with edits (presumably with the green light from God).

Let US make man in OUR image, is an unequivocal statement. The question of 'in the 'image' of whom', x2 or more, should be answered in the context of the passage it is informed by...hence, the elephant in the room...

Å99


I told you that my consciousness was attacked and nearly self combusted.....and it is very difficult to channel information from spirit.

If an occultist wanted to believe in a real Father light being....I am witness to his presence for I hear him and know that his spirit was the spirit that activated creation itself. I hear his voice speaking amongst the birds chirping.

Hence I know from self evidence of holographic memory the conditions of our spiritual evolution.

1 Origin Earth a different creation with a huge crystalline inlaid body.
2 Our brother last to manifest demanifest as an angelic presence activated sound change...for he did not want to be alone..he thought himself trapped and dying with Nature, which was a false review.
3 He activated the UFO explosion of Sun radiation that attacked all creation...many planets O exploded turning planets into star systems...Earth itself was nearly destroyed.
4.Atmospheric gases refilled emptied out space...origin light always existed and spirit was released because gas as light/sound changed origin light and sound. Spirit itself came out of origin light and manifested into the various light sound organic presences. SPIRIT CREATED US.
5. Our brother......can't say anything positive about him, for I truly learnt to hate him from what he has done to my life and my family's...don't care if you don't believe in spirit, but a huge population on Earth do.
6. Our brother always does occult science for he believes himself the Creator...yet by factual history he is the destroyer...hence he always believed he was Satan created.
7. Our brother changed Satan and now he believes that Aliens created him. WHAT NEXT?



posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 02:47 AM
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^^^^^^^^^^^
Does not address the OP

Å99



posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 06:29 AM
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originally posted by: akushla99
^^^^^^^^^^^
Does not address the OP

Å99


It certainly does for GENESIS is SIGN SEE, and I certainly SAW.

Our ancient brother, my brother's higher self gained this insight in the same manner that I did...after his own natural life was attacked and combusted.....and it affected his life in many different circumstances called the SEE.

He considered the SEE HOLY, for it was a self realized spiritual reality that he witnessed....the loss of his own spirit and also the creation and manifestation of the evil spirit. Therefore he knew by self evidence that he was in fact a spirit and that he knew by Revelation that he had revealed his own personal problem....believing himself to be the Creator.

His own historical spiritual review of SEEING....called the PHI RA SEE...the radiation of the Sun God RA involving PHI calculations advised him of his past misdemeanour....that he had caused his origin self combustion and nearly destroyed the creation of Planet Earth. He knew he had activated the UFO stories that he told himself about as spiritual awareness....why he called it HOLY as a SEE, even though it was an evil attack upon his person.

Our spirit by the way is innocent of all information and sadly for our brother his mind believes in his channelling and he believed himself great and all powerful and was proven wrong, when he destroyed life before.

This information is all about bringing to my brother's attention about his innocent self, and how when he dies he suddenly realizes how innocent he was, and then realizes how evil he became.

Occultism is true.



posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: beenharmed

originally posted by: akushla99
^^^^^^^^^^^
Does not address the OP

Å99


It certainly does for GENESIS is SIGN SEE, and I certainly SAW.

Our ancient brother, my brother's higher self gained this insight in the same manner that I did...after his own natural life was attacked and combusted.....and it affected his life in many different circumstances called the SEE.

He considered the SEE HOLY, for it was a self realized spiritual reality that he witnessed....the loss of his own spirit and also the creation and manifestation of the evil spirit. Therefore he knew by self evidence that he was in fact a spirit and that he knew by Revelation that he had revealed his own personal problem....believing himself to be the Creator.

His own historical spiritual review of SEEING....called the PHI RA SEE...the radiation of the Sun God RA involving PHI calculations advised him of his past misdemeanour....that he had caused his origin self combustion and nearly destroyed the creation of Planet Earth. He knew he had activated the UFO stories that he told himself about as spiritual awareness....why he called it HOLY as a SEE, even though it was an evil attack upon his person.

Our spirit by the way is innocent of all information and sadly for our brother his mind believes in his channelling and he believed himself great and all powerful and was proven wrong, when he destroyed life before.

This information is all about bringing to my brother's attention about his innocent self, and how when he dies he suddenly realizes how innocent he was, and then realizes how evil he became.

Occultism is true.


It's also Gin sees...take your pick...

Å99
edit on 8-1-2016 by akushla99 because: Addendum



posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1


It's really not as mysterious as the bible and church try to make it out to be. The bible is a book that tries to explain existence itself, so it goes to reason that what it's stories describe is what we experience right now, existence.

You have a good way of explaining and so clear to understand. I agree with most of what you understand.



posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: Seede

Human beings have nothing to do with creation acts, which is why we got attacked by the UFO.

Even today the same occultist make comments that they believe they themselves are creating the atmosphere...what gives you this belief occultist....why do you personally believe that you are causing the creation of an atmospheric reaction?

It already existed before you believed you are doing it.

Like nuclear fuel for example...already created in out of space and the information given to your mind. You believe your spirit is evil for you believe that your intelligence comes from evil/Satan by your own personal statements....and yes it did, but it was channeled to your mind...not owned by your mind.

Your mind then attacked by the evil you conjured by believing in your own concepts that you are creating and are safe creating because the angels keep you safe....yet you remove the Satanic angel....Holy Dust and then human life gets attacked by the UFO.

You say the UFO always existed...yet it never did, for our ancient brother just like the modern day evil minded self possessed spirit of occultists did the same thing you did....and his combusted body in coal exists with his remains of his own applied science.

You review the information and then stated "oh this is an alien for it is 12 feet tall".....yet we used to be tall, for we were angelic light beings who manifested straight out of light.

We combusted our selves...and self combustion proves that it shrinks the cells.

We changed...we know we changed everyone advised the occultists we are spirit. He believes that he is an Alien and that the M-Other 1000 not Christ nor Satan = + the cross, is his Mother. Since when are you born from an alien...what is wrong with your mind....are we proving you to be possessed yourself? A human being Mother gave you life.

This is how evil minded our brother is...he discusses elements and creation where no human form or cell exists and then makes statements about these places being where our human life begun...who are you kidding anyway.

The atmosphere has been attacked ever since our ancient brother reactivated the ancient attack...and the UFO formation is an attack on our atmosphere and our atmosphere was protecting our life from this attack....it had been remassing its own gases which has taken a long evolution to accumulate.

Science takes it away and then imposes an Alien creation upon us.....I know Aliens did not create me...believe what you want evil minded brother...occultist who murders you if you do not agree with him...imposes his own beliefs about spirit and religion upon our person and has used the technique of murdering anyone who challenges his own incorrect egotistical review.



posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: nonspecific
It took me a few minutes, but i finally tracked down the answer I gave the last time this question was asked;

"I would take this to mean that human life is self-aware, in a sense that doesn’t apply to other living things; intelligent and reasoning and consciously willing.
That would make us the “image” of a God who is self-aware, intelligent and reasoning and consciously willing."
That would be why God follows on immediately by giving instructions about "having dominion" over the earth. The two things go together.





Thank you.

So may I ask if you then do not think that we are actually based on god in a physical sense.

Your answer has given me more questions than answers but thank you.


We are similar to God because are creators in our own right. The intelligence God gave humans enables us to create wonders that break the sound barrier and travel to the moon. You don't see animals flying to the moon on their own. Forced monkey volunteers don't count.



posted on Jan, 9 2016 @ 06:47 AM
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a reply to: nonspecific

Interesting question. For some sort of explanation, it may be helpful to look at other scripture to get an inkling.

Take a look at Psalm 8 (NAB). Divine Majesty And Human Dignity. Here, the psalmist describes some of the attributes of what it means to be human. It's uplifting and will make you feel good about yourself.

We're just a tad lower than the angels. You have royal dignity....and power!



posted on Jan, 9 2016 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: Rex282


There are many that will say out of one side of their mouth that God could not be a man then out of the other side that Jesus is God in one breath.This statement from Genesis is very easy to understand......man does not have a CLUE to what or who the creator God is.Anyone who believes they know ANYTHING about the creator God from reading a book (or some mystery being that lives in them) or mystical knowlesge has provided ample evidence of their abundant ignorance.

You forgot to say that this is your own theology. I have not read on ATS one person who has said that Jesus is God. Tell me why should I believe you any more than any other person?

You say that - Quote Anyone who believes they know ANYTHING about the creator God from reading a book (or some mystery being that lives in them) or mystical knowlesge has provided ample evidence of their abundant ignorance. Unquote

To have that great knowledge to know that all of the minds of trillions of people are abundantly ignorant makes you the god. Is that what you have tried to sell? Sounds to me like we need to go no further than to ask the god Rex because he is all knowing. You seem to not realize that we are in a theological forum and not one in this thread has said that they know as a fact what they believe. People believe differently and a wise person will listen and learn. People are people and one can gain great knowledge from all people.



posted on Jan, 9 2016 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: beenharmed


Human beings have nothing to do with creation acts, which is why we got attacked by the UFO.

Would like to discuss but have no idea of what you have addressed to me. Are you sure that you have the right person to discuss your post?



posted on Jan, 9 2016 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: Seede
You forgot to say that this is your own theology.


I will not say that false statement because it isn’t true.If you understood anything I said (which you haven’t) , I stated ALL theology is inherently incorrect because it is impossible to know anything about a creator God through the studying of books .

Trotting out “your theology statement” diatribe every time I make a statement contrary to your religion-religious theology is extremely boorish and is only a poor diversionary tactic of your self absorbed religious piety and is evidence to the fact that your theology is 100% incorrect and is not the truth and you know NOTHING of the creator God.


originally posted by: Seede
I have not read on ATS one person who has said that Jesus is God. Tell me why should I believe you any more than any other person?


Then your reading comprehension is severely lacking and myopic .I could point to hundreds possibly thousands of statements made by people right here on ATS(and BILLIONS worldwide) stating that they believe Jesus is God.I don’t have to take a poll or do an exhaustive search,... it is common knowledge...except to you.The fact is the majority of Christians believe Jesus is God, just because your minority Christian cult doesn’t isn’t the standard.


originally posted by: Seede
To have that great knowledge to know that all of the minds of trillions of people are abundantly ignorant makes you the god. Is that what you have tried to sell? Sounds to me like we need to go no further than to ask the god Rex because he is all knowing.


Thank you for revealing the core of your character by attacking me personally with ridiculous condescending comments about something I neither said nor implied.It is the abundance of evidence of who you really are by twisting words to mean what you want them to mean.

I find it indicative of someone of your advanced age who resorts to libelous slander and nay saying condescension instead of the issues to how destructive and vile religious belief is.


originally posted by: Seede
You seem to not realize that we are in a theological forum and not one in this thread has said that they know as a fact what they believe. People believe differently and a wise person will listen and learn. People are people and one can gain great knowledge from all people.


I realize very well where I am posting.The reason I respond in the theological forums is the motto of this website…..”Deny Ignorance.” The theological forums(as you call them) are FULL of ignorance especially by the religion-religious who believe in their theology.There is ZERO wisdom to be gained from anyones “theological” knowledge because it is not knowledge it is the opposite, complete ignorance.


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posted on Jan, 9 2016 @ 07:23 PM
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The information of the Bible is a Revelation...to reveal means what was concealed was known/observed.

The ancients did a science, it used stone dust, as the information of the Ark and Covenant state...as a review of the occult science of the Book of the Dead...different information.

The information came from our brother's ancient occult practice of shamanism...taking somatic drugs as chemical from plants...which is burnt spirit matter. The spirit of plants/trees was burnt, which is why their spirit is different to our own.

We were created in origin light...occult scientists do not believe, for they only believe in factoring....spirit cannot be factored. So we share our experiences and they ridicule us, for they believe their own person is "all knowing" and yet now study our spirit as if they will become "all knowing". Truly arrogant, aren't you!

The microbial population demonstates that the first organic formation as lost sound came out first, which released the higher formed spirit presences of a multi state...who emerged spiritually by sound value. This is why we had order of release...yet our different spiritual existences. You do not believe this review for you cannot have it if you believe it. Your egos will not accept this review.

We are not energy, like your review states...we use energy and if we do not replace energy our spirit dies.

You studied Gurus who mediated, yet exist in an emancipated body...who proved we are spirit by not having to replace energy...and the spirit self still existed. It did not prove that we are energy, as you review the condition. Maintaining a vibration the same as energy allowed the spirit to survive...a totally different spiritual condition than your own egotistical advice.

Our brother was a dis-spirited mean, nasty human being who took our holy spiritual life and changed it into an act of serving his presence. He did this as a brotherhood...a community of males whose consciousness believed in the overthrown and also occultist practices. We have never been freed of his indoctrinated life condition.

He falsified spiritual meanings by being dis-spirited...negative...drugged and made incomplete spiritual review...for if he was spiritual he would never have applied occultistm, that returned the cause and effect to his own person, where he witnessed his own self combustion.

Therefore occultist documents are false.

The Bible....a revelation that demonstrated what he revealed to his own person was a non-replacement of his own spiritual life....oxygen regeneration, and he took atmospheric pressure/oxygen/water/hydrogen from out atmosphere and the poles shifted their magnetic force and the ice began to melt.

The same outcome is happening today.....he did not know the UFO review...for in his somatic journey he only witnessed the stone levitation....he did not review the UFO in his life recordings for the UFO is not natural to the atmosphere and the atmosphere does not record the UFO....instead the UFO destroys the atmosphere as it removes it.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 03:24 PM
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The Pharisees and Sadducees were the top Jewish authorities of those times and they could not see or identify Jesus as the Messiah simply because they weren't looking in the right place for the clues.



from Wiki


The Sadducees (sedûqîm) were one of the three main Jewish political and religious movements in the years between c.150 BCE and 70 CE. (The other movements were the Essenes and the Pharisees.) They had a conservative outlook and accepted only the written Law of Moses


Maybe they couldnt "see him" as the Essenes lived an "ascetic" life. The clues were later fulfilled by Paul of Tarsus with the help of a dying empire subsumed the early breakaway Jesus movement (James was the true adherent) - made it accessible to all Gentiles.
A universal catholic church (still controlled from Rome) was thus formed with the help of the Sword of the Roman Empire.
Other doctrines like the Trinity and the Virgin birth were allowed into the "theology"




Had Jesus said He was the King maybe just maybe they would have responded differently. They would probably checked His genealogy to start with and then so on and so forth.


Its contested whether Jesus was born "14 generations" from the Babylonian captivity. The ambiguity in Jesus response when asked would suggest that the time wasn't right for him to claim his Earthly kingship (insufficient political power and followers) or a later addition to hide the fact that he came to rule the physical, thus destroying the foundation of the house of cards created by Pauline/Roman Christology.



We have a saying in my circles of study: The Old Testament is the New Testament hidden and the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. Hope you find your answers. G-D Bless


Very convenient and self fulfilling - you still worship Jovian gods (Roman/jupiter) with a mix of Canaanite gods (Elohim/Baal) and creation myths of Enlil and Enki.

Once you start unravelling the threads you will see why you will forever be beholden to the demiurge that the Gnostics tried to warn humanity about.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 03:34 PM
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Just as God took a rib from Adam causing a wound and later brought Eve his bride to him ,so too did Jesus receive a wound in His side that would create a bride (the church) for Him .


But if Eve was to be Adams equal are you saying that the Church was Jesus equal? Doesn't make much sense. oh hang on it does; take the Bible literally or metaphorically when it suits - the only danger being that you are accountable for your actions, leading others astray and all that.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 03:50 PM
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This showed Moses that as the Creator has two celestial portions of Spirit (likeness) and Word (image) so man also has two portions of His pattern. The problem that most have is that of understanding death of the image of man. As a man dies the image returns to its source while the spirit of life remains and if worthy is given a place in the celestial world. When that man's spirit ascends to its celestial estate it is then given a celestial body just as the other celestial angelic host has.


So the image returns to source; i thought God was Source?

So that means that the spirit has a celestial body in "heaven";
what of this?
matt 22.30


For when the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. In this respect they will be like the angels in heaven.


A bit confusing, these distinctions



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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www.christiananswers.net...

according to the above there are 900 * names for god (christian website)

the Jewish god? by Jewish you mean recent Hebrew; the Tetragrammaton is more of a descriptor/name

Not really comparable to the extra-biblical concept of the Trinity

www.behindthename.com...


A name of the Hebrew God, represented in Hebrew by the tetragrammaton ("four letters") יהוה (Yod Heh Vav Heh), which was transliterated into Roman script as Y H W H. Because it was considered blasphemous to utter the name of God, it was only written and never spoken, which resulted in the original pronunciation becoming lost. The name may have originally been derived from the old Semitic root הוה (hawah) meaning "to be" or "to become".


PS keep up the good work, as usual your polemic is first class



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 05:56 PM
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Our brother formed ancient occult science through a somatic drugged mind state and gained information to levitation of stone....which was an origin evil UFO attack against life on origin Earth.


why would defying gravity be evil?




Planet Earth has since been reattacked with the UFO condition, which is why our DNA had not healed and we were taught that by the YEAR 2012....the satanic anima attack cause would cease because the ancient brothers believed that they had stopped the occultist practice.


1 who taught you that by 2012...
2 DNA would be healed...how?
3 why did the ancients believe they stopped the pactice?





The only reason we are all still alive is that modern day science decided to use the information for the creation of nuclear fuel


so from your earlier posts and the above, are you saying that we are only alive because of experimentation of nuclear fuel?

and if so how do you account for the sun and its nuclear reactions and reactions. Which of your occultist scientists created the Sun?

If you want to create a new language thats all well and good, but to keep lines of communication open we have to agree on some common definitions or at least provide a glossary or dictionary. Thats the very least you could do in the interest of getting your "esoteric" knowledge across to a wider audience.



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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: beenharmed





Our brother formed ancient occult science through a somatic drugged mind state and gained information to levitation of stone....which was an origin evil UFO attack against life on origin Earth.


why would defying gravity be evil?




Planet Earth has since been reattacked with the UFO condition, which is why our DNA had not healed and we were taught that by the YEAR 2012....the satanic anima attack cause would cease because the ancient brothers believed that they had stopped the occultist practice.


1 who taught you that by 2012...
2 DNA would be healed...how?
3 why did the ancients believe they stopped the pactice?





The only reason we are all still alive is that modern day science decided to use the information for the creation of nuclear fuel


so from your earlier posts and the above, are you saying that we are only alive because of experimentation of nuclear fuel?

and if so how do you account for the sun and its nuclear reactions and reactions. Which of your occultist scientists created the Sun?

If you want to create a new language thats all well and good, but to keep lines of communication open we have to agree on some common definitions or at least provide a glossary or dictionary. Thats the very least you could do in the interest of getting your "esoteric" knowledge across to a wider audience.




We are only alive on Planet Earth because occult scientists in modern times did not do stone levitation as their science.

Instead their use of the UFO interaction of Planetary irradiations was used for the creation of nuclear fuel....a colder fusion than the use of stone levitation.

Hence we survived this form of conversion...yet the atmosphere attacked our life and we are only in survival mode.

The Earth demonstrates this outcome by ICE melting....and ICE became the replacement cold effect that science stole from our atmospheric reaction that kept the atmosphere cold.

The atmosphere itself by scientific review states a high amount of carbon is in the atmosphere and the atmosphere on the outside is heated...for UFO metallic bodies manifest. Metal only forms in a hot fusion.

The atmosphere proves it has thinned, when planes pass through the atmosphere, the atmosphere was witnessed to have dropped out and attacked human skin with rashes.

When the ancients were attacked....they were attacked by the occultist practice of using the stone nuclear dust for the stone levitation building practice. Their secret ancient orders make statements that the information of spirit related to building and stone.

As they were using PHI calculated reactions, the prophetic review cause and effect condition related to PHI.

So to PROVE that PHI occultism practices was attacking life...removing the atmosphere and forming evil spiritual presences a review was done.

The biblical documentation studied by scholars proved that information had to be correlated for the Old Testaments and the New Testaments in ONE REVIEW model.

Hence the calculations factored PHI to the YEAR 2012 as proof of evidence of attacks caused by occultism..science and conversion.

They documented the old disaster activation, for the ancients like modern day astronomers kept records and observations.

They documented activation of plagues and also what caused the plagues as a review.

Hence they began to notice that the NATURE of insects changed...by pestilence conditions...the fleas on rats changed and gave human life the bubonic plague. The condition related to a PHI inherited realisation...hence they knew they had changed Nature itself and THE HOLY BLOODLINES.

In modern time we witnessed the same outcome for COWS were attacked by the UFO PHI condition...and then they gained mad cows disease.

We witnessed our own cellular life changed...and gained the ancient stigmata...along with a huge change to the human cell Nature...with new diseases and illnesses.

Therefore to PROVE EVIDENCE of attacks were caused by an atmospheric evil interaction, the future prophecies stated when plagues would be inherited and when natural disasters would be activated. Natural disasters demonstrate that UFO releases are witnessed around earthquake sites. The secret of the Christ as Carpenter is (tectonics or plate movements).

As Rome did not believe in the review, but was involved in occultist practices themselves it was not until they got attacked that they believed in the CHRIST REVELATIONS as a philosophical review and realization of self destruction.

Rome then took action against the occultists-scientists as it was proven prophecy.

The UFO kept returning instead of the atmospheric healing/cooling replacement of hydrogen and oxygen.

Therefore they knew that they had caused an attack on Earth by using the information of the UFO and PHI to take it for personal use.....stone levitation and also stone conversions.

This realization was taught as a model of PHI review the M 1000 OTHER....as the removal of the HOLY CROSSES + between Christ 1000 and Satan 1000.

Why do you think the ancient brothers considered the Satan review as holy....not that Satan is HOLY....but that Satan is HOLY to Earth life as a support review...HOLY DUST. Dust is not holy, but when it attacks you and you stop the attack then it is holy. Cows were not holy, but when you stop the attack on cows....cows are holy.

This is how holiness was considered...by being attacked and then stopping the attack by wisdom.



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