Adolf Hitler And The Freemasons

Originally posted by topsecretombomb



I read somewhere that the Freemasons they executed were under the category "Political prisoner."

At the beginning of 1930, Germany comprized some 75,000 Masons and nine regular Grand Lodges, the numerical importance of which was very different (see Table 1). About two-thirds of the brethren belonged to the three oldest, always Christian-oriented and at that time strongly nationalistic Grand Lodges founded in the 18th century which were called ‘Old Prussian’ because they were founded and had their seats in Berlin. They never initiated ‘non-Christians’, the then usual expression to designate Jews. Along the 19th century, five more German Grand Lodges were founded and a further one in 1924. They were called ‘humanitarian’ and initiated men of any religious denomination (see Table 2). In 1922, the Old Prussian Grand Lodges decided to withdraw from the German Grand Lodges’ Alliance founded in 1872, explaining: « There is a border which strongly differentiates humanitarian from Old Prussian national Freemasonry. We, the three Old Prussian Grand Lodges, refuse to take part in the general humanitarian fraternization movement between people in the world. » (Steffens, p. 332)

Originally posted by Kerosene
Another freemason's lie, you are good for the whitewash.

The Old Prussian NEVER initiate a jew.

GERMANY’S GRAND LODGES UP TO 1930



At the beginning of 1930, Germany comprized some 75,000 Masons and nine regular Grand Lodges, the numerical importance of which was very different (see Table 1). About two-thirds of the brethren belonged to the three oldest, always Christian-oriented and at that time strongly nationalistic Grand Lodges founded in the 18th century which were called ‘Old Prussian’ because they were founded and had their seats in Berlin. They never initiated ‘non-Christians’, the then usual expression to designate Jews. Along the 19th century, five more German Grand Lodges were founded and a further one in 1924. They were called ‘humanitarian’ and initiated men of any religious denomination (see Table 2). In 1922, the Old Prussian Grand Lodges decided to withdraw from the German Grand Lodges’ Alliance founded in 1872, explaining: « There is a border which strongly differentiates humanitarian from Old Prussian national Freemasonry. We, the three Old Prussian Grand Lodges, refuse to take part in the general humanitarian fraternization movement between people in the world. » (Steffens, p. 332)

Originally posted by Kerosene
.... and they continue to have relation after a short break with the regular freemasonry of England and the United-States.

Originally posted by Kerosene
Henry Ford, a brother wrote is "The International Jew", Churchill another Brother wrote is "Zionism versus Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People."

Originally posted by Kerosene
The nazi ideology is born in the Lodge.

Originally posted by JustMe74

Originally posted by Kerosene
.... and they continue to have relation after a short break with the regular freemasonry of England and the United-States.

That's not what it says on the UGLE's web site; here are all of the European Grand Lodges that are recognized by the UGLE:
www.grandlodge-england.org...

Here is the recognized Grand Lodge in Germany:
www.freimaurer.org...

It has English and French versions of its site, just click the flag.


[edit on 8/29/2007 by JustMe74]

… all the English Masons will accept with pleasure closer and more frequent relations with our Brothers of Germany since all their principles are absolutely ours, since nothing in their maconnic principles is in conflict with their social, moral and religious duties, and since the history of their Grand Lodge is closely related to that of the Grand Lodge of England.

Originally posted by Roark
Well, you've posted that table 3 times now... so I'm assuming you've only got the one source for this stuff (which isn't necessarily an issue).

Let's assume your source is correct.

If the Old Prussians truly did ignore the Antient Charges and disciminate based upon religion, then their Craft Masonry was irrregular by nature, even if that wasn't recognised at the time.

The Antient Charges, which are foundational to Freemasonry, say the following:

'Let a man's religion or mode of worship be what it may, he is not excluded from the order provided he believe in the glorious architect of heaven and earth and practise the sacred duties of morality.'

So, if what you are saying is true, they were acting in direct contravention to Regular Freemasonry.

The end (?)

It was outside the scope of that paper to mention that about 1946 leading German Masons secretly agreed never to mention masonic events from the 1920-1935 period. The first public Declaration of the United Grand Lodge of Germany, issued on 22 January 1949, gave a version of the past which had little in common with factual truth. It asserted that not one single German Mason had taken part in the Nazi crimes, which may have been true. Nevertheless, in 1949, former members of the Nazi party such as Wilhelm Lorenz (a member since 1 July 1936), Hermann Dörner (1 March 1937), Udo Sonanini (1 January 1938), Kurt Hendrikson (1 January 1941), Herbert Kessler (1 May 1941) and Karl Hoede (with the personal authorization of Hitler from 4 August 1942 since he was a Mason from 1920 to July 1933; Hoedes son married Theodor Vogels daughter) already were or became soon prominent Masons under the new German republic. [ii]

In 1945 and in 1949, The Masonic Service Association had sent two delegations headed by Bro. Ray V. Denslow, P.G.M. of Missouri, to Germany. Among the first delegation was Judge (Bro.) George Edward Bushnell, then Grand Lieutenant Commander of the Supreme Council, Northern Masonic Jurisdiction of the U.S.A. Bro. Martin Dietz, P.G.M. of New Jersey, who spoke German fluently, belonged to the second one. The report signed by Denslow and Dietz proves that American delegates received biased and incomplete information. It did not mention once the Symbolic Grand Lodge of Germany or the Supreme Council for Germany, both founded in 1930, the only German Masonic bodies which openly resisted Hitler. Nor did it mention the declarations of Prussian Grand Lodges which openly supported him in 1933 and 1934. It depicted an imaginary German Freemasonry too weak to resist the Nazis and forcibly dissolved in 1933. That information, which reflected the agreement to forget the past, mostly originated in Theodor Vogel. Had the American delegates been fully informed of the attitude of most German Masons in the 1930s, I presume that their report would have been different.