Melting steel?

a reply to: wildb

Actually about 1/2 of 1% of the steel was retained for study or memorials

www.youtube.com...

I saw a video where a welder super heated a piece of steel, then with ease bent it. He said this showed that a plane crash was enough to cause the collapse. However, in the video, all he did was BEND the metal. While I don't have too much interest, I did notice that it BENT, not collapsed. Which would lead me to believe, that it should have fell in a different pattern, but I know nothing on the subject, I just hope that one day, if this was a conspiracy, that some whistle blower will report it (Or an old man with a guilty conscious) - Not convinced either way. Don't know if official story is legit, or a conspiracy story is legit. (If it was an inside job, there will be no records of it, at least, if I was behind an inside job there wouldn't be.)

a reply to: Anon24

I did notice that it BENT, not collapsed.

I'm sure you have stacked playing cards into buildings as a kid.
Remember when that one card fell over and an entire section collapsed?
The plane cut through half the exterior supports on one side.
The fire weakened the remaining.
Too much weight on too few weakened supports.

Or you can believe someone put a silent nuke in the basement.
Or was that hologram planes and explosives no one could see or hear.
Or was that space beams drawing power from a hurricane 100 miles away.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Anon24

I did notice that it BENT, not collapsed.

I'm sure you have stacked playing cards into buildings as a kid.
Remember when that one card fell over and an entire section collapsed?
The plane cut through half the exterior supports on one side.
The fire weakened the remaining.
Too much weight on too few weakened supports.



Or you can believe someone put a silent nuke in the basement.
Or was that hologram planes and explosives no one could see or hear.
Or was that space beams drawing power from a hurricane 100 miles away.

Yea...

I always thought it kind of "odd" how the top of one of the towers leaned way over; but then the whole top part "moved" back toward the middle as it began to fall down through the remaining floors of the building.

I know there are several very solid explainations for this using all kinds of physics and mathmatical formulas.

And they have all been shown and discussed before.

But, I just thought I would mention it one more time.

a reply to: Anon24

As steel is heated becomes soft and plastic losing it ability to carry a load

At temperature of 1800 F steel has only 10% of original; load carrying ability

Now imagine a steel column supporting the structure = as the column is heated up the column will begin
deform until loses load carrying ability

a reply to: samkent

I'm going to choose not to have a belief on the subject. I'd rather not assume anything in any endeavor. Was just stating what I saw. Again, don't have too much interest in the subject, either way it happened - and I only hope that IF it wasn't how the official story reports it, that a whistle blower would come forward - and not be punished for it. If it is exactly how it was reported officially, there is nothing that needs be done.

I used a heater in winter seasons that worked with coal. I added oil (from cars) to start the heater and to gain high temperature. While doing this, none of my metal accessories lost any strength.

When the coal burnt by itself, my heater looked orange inside and my accessories lost their strength due to very high temperature.

Burning kerosene, furniture and papers couldn't bring down a skyscraper.

So it's hard to find out, how did it collapse.

a reply to: spidermastermind

You do understand any rise in temperature causes steel to become increasingly workable and reduces its ability to resist load. That is scientific fact.

Try the same thing, but put 3 tons on the water heater and see how it reacts.

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - The World Trade Center

www.popularmechanics.com...

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent."

I could see how burning high sulfur coal could cause a chemical attack of the metal. Especially if the metal is repeatedly allowed to cool then reheated to form cycles of condensation.

At least for WTC 2, it all comes down to this clip in this linked thread......

the-pre-collapse-inward-bowing-of-wtc2.t4760/

www.metabunk.org...

Strange the video that shows the buckling and initiation of collapse is never referred to by conspiracists?

originally posted by: spidermastermind


Burning kerosene, furniture and papers couldn't bring down a skyscraper.

Really?

Then I guess that the developers have just been wasting money on insulating their steel buildings.